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Mehitabel Posted: 28.01.2006, 13:11



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Hello all.
Would like to register my outrage at plans to foist waste incinerator on Cornwall without recourse to public opinion (apologies if repeating previous posts). Public and press banned from the decision-making process according to WMN. Democratic? I think not.
Would the people of Cornwall, if given the choice, reduce their waste output by choosing products with less packaging and improve their recycling habits rather than have the toxin-spewing incinerator landed on them? I like to thing the answer is 'yes' but maybe I'm naive?
Any campaigns going? I'd like to join...
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GolowDydh Posted: 28.01.2006, 13:46

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Democratic?


Whoever told you that because you lived in a state that called itself a democracy you could expect things to be democratic?
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lyskerrys Posted: 28.01.2006, 14:02



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If the choice is between a clean, modern, power-generating incinerator or ending up with Cornwall covered with landfill, I think I'd choose the incinerator.
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Mehitabel Posted: 28.01.2006, 17:35



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How do you know it's clean? Because the politicians told you so?
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Mehitabel Posted: 28.01.2006, 17:47



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The mooted 'choice' wasn't between landfill and incineration, it was between more recycling and incineration. Big difference. If Canada can recycle 50%, why can Brits only manage 1%? And there IS a third choice: consume less and use discretion in purchasing the stuff you do buy, i.e. buy stuff with less packaging.
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cledry_maid Posted: 28.01.2006, 17:55



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i.e. buy stuff with less packaging.

Or take the packaging off in the shop and leave it there as a protest.
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Mehitabel Posted: 28.01.2006, 17:56



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That would be good if enough people did it.
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cledry_maid Posted: 28.01.2006, 18:24



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I was talking to a friend about it the other day. She didn't think that it would make much difference but if there was a day nationwide where people were encouraged to do just that it may make a point. Even if 10% of the shoppers that day left all superfluous wrapping in the supermarkets it would be quite a substantial amount IMO.
I might try it next time I'm in the supermarket - it'd be brill if they asked me to leave. Trouble is I don't buy many groceries, I'd have to make a special trip icon_biggrin
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lyskerrys Posted: 28.01.2006, 18:34



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I think it's in Germany that the supermarkets have recycling collection points at the exits so the material never goes home. The less transportation, the better. Electronic equipment manufacturers are now responsible (IIRC) for the recycling of their products at the end of their lives, why shouldn't food manufacturers be responsible for their packaging waste in the same way?
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GolowDydh Posted: 28.01.2006, 18:57

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Any campaigns going? I'd like to join...

There was one I remember reading about which had 100% support when voted on in the hall for Cornwall
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"This meeting calls on WI members to take further action to reduce waste and conserve resources in their own homes and communities; to lobby manufacturers, retailers and decision makers to reduce waste in the production, packaging and transportation of public and consumer goods."

Do you think they will have you?

I would be interested where you got the following from. certainly from some councillors I have talked to they were certainly under the impression the alternative was landfill
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The mooted 'choice' wasn't between landfill and incineration, it was between more recycling and incineration.

All councils in Cornwall are definately trying to increase recycling if they were misled something needs to be seriously looked into.
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cornishminer Posted: 28.01.2006, 19:46



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Whoever told you that because you lived in a state that called itself a democracy you could expect things to be democratic?


A question: What is the difference between capitalism and communism?






Answer: Capitalism is where man exploits man. Communism is the opposite.
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Mehitabel Posted: 28.01.2006, 19:55



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GolowDydh:
Where 'I got the following from' was me (The mooted 'choice' wasn't between landfill and incineration, it was between more recycling and incineration).
If you reread the first post you will see I was merely posing the question: if there was a choice, would the people of Cornwall work harder to recycle more if it meant we didn't have to have an incinerator. I'm not inventing waste management policies icon_smile
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Mehitabel Posted: 28.01.2006, 20:12



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FYI

"The Government seems set on the massive expansion of incinerators across Britain. They've awarded over 60 contracts to subsidise new incinerators, one of the contracts is to make Britains biggest incinerator (Edmonton, north London) even bigger. Greenpeace thinks it should be shut down along with the 14 other municipal waste incinerators in Britain.

However you do it, burning rubbish produces a toxic cocktail of chemicals that are linked with cancer, asthma and birth defects. Acid gases, arsenic, lead, dioxins and particulates spew out of large incinerators chimneys at the rate of 80 wheelie bins per second. The thousands of tonnes of toxic ash are sent to landfill or spread over the country as aggregate for roads or buildings.

Burning resources does not provide the answer to our waste crisis. The solution is the intensive reuse, recyling and stabilisation of waste."

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http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/contentlookup.cfm?ucidparam=20001006102858&Menupoint=D-D&CFID=3972663&CFTOKEN=48230284&MenuPoint=D-D
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fancyabrew Posted: 28.01.2006, 20:47



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Electronic equipment manufacturers are now responsible (IIRC) for the recycling of their products at the end of their lives


not yet they're not the WEEE regulation have been delayed yet again to latter this year
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fancyabrew Posted: 28.01.2006, 20:47



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However you do it, burning rubbish produces a toxic cocktail of chemicals that are linked with cancer, asthma and birth defects. Acid gases, arsenic, lead, dioxins and particulates spew out of large incinerators chimneys at the rate of 80 wheelie bins per second. The thousands of tonnes of toxic ash are sent to landfill or spread over the country as aggregate for roads or buildings.

Burning resources does not provide the answer to our waste crisis. The solution is the intensive reuse, recyling and stabilisation of waste."


ahhhh greenpeace, must be true then
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