Bucca boo said:

Unless Cornwall discovered its own oil/alternative power Cornwall would be an impoverished Nation probably akin to somewhere like Portugal. Examples of well off  states without a power resource can be found , such as Luxembourg and maybe Switzerland, however they have an established history of  banking ,finance and commerce to buoy thier economies. So nationhood would come at a real cost to the standard of living.

As Young Cornwall says there really is a question mark over who the residents of Cornwal deem themselves to be. With incomers having arrived here in droves since 18c, with the tin mining boom, continuing to day with retirees. The average man on the street accepts he lives in an English county  even though some of them could  be  highly celtic  in the dna stakes.  For devolvement to work surely you need the majority to support that move {and to the average person it is not high on thier list of things to have done} Put simply , you can have all the evidence in the world that Cornwall is constitutionally seperate but if the people prefer the current English regime  then no change will take place.

Leading on from that you would need to persuade people that devolvement would be advantagous and if we look at Scotland and Wales it would appear, to me at least, that all they have done is created further beauracracy with very little benefit.

Lastly I 'd have to question weather those who would most desire devolvement are sophisticated enough to actually make it work. Reading this forum you quickly come to realise that the 'Cornish movement' seem to have the vision of a welders dog  when it comes to matters of commerce and even more so on tourism which is currently the main stay of the county

Interesting proposition. Cornwall is rich in renewable energy and food production wealth, so who may really need who in the future?

A lot of people – even English people – accept that Cornwall is 'different' so the level of 'Englishness' that you claim is not strong.

There are a lot of people across all walks of life who support Cornish devolution. Business people, for example, signed the 50,000 petition. Tourism is not the largest employer or the largest producer in Cornwall. That is a popular myth.

Oh my oh my!

When I saw this topic appear yesterday, I thought it would soon turn into a slanging match – the usual dribble comes  predictably up, then the offensive language.

Perhaps this is why this whole topic becomes a joke and cannot be taken seriously.

It is quite ludicrous to mention Cornwall has any form of governance at this moment in time. As for language of course it gets its due recognition, BUT not a soul uses it in everyday conversation.

Cornwall has its own culture, so do many other parts of the UK, be they counties (Cornwall, Devon, Yorkshire etc or principalities (Wales), provinces (N. Ireland)  or even countries (England, Scotland)   

There will be no revolution, the people in Cornwall have much more important things to think about and why would anyone even consider such daft nonsense?

Trevorpen said:

why would anyone even consider such daft nonsense?

Well obviously people do, so therefore there must be a flaw in your arguments.

T2 reloaded, to deny that Cornwall has been governed by England is equally ignoring historical fact.

Zennorman, self sufficiency in power generation would undoubtedly change the dynamic. But if you look at the wave hub project, where 20 mill will be spent to power 7000 homes , we see how far off this is.

I'd welcome a wider debate throughout Cornwall on weather the residents of Cornwall want to devolve or be regionalised or what level  of spending should be controlled locally. Sadly most people are more interested in last night's Chelsea game or what's happening on 'Corrie'.

Posters who deny the importance of tourism are showing the lack of commercial aptitude i keep mentioning.{with respect}

It may fit neatly with the separtists arguments ,ie that england wants us for a playground, but the reality is that we the Cornish have been complicit on the  focus on this industry/trade. My own family suffered badly  at the collapse of the mining industry {back in early 1900's} Thier already humble situation was  beggered to the point where the adult males travelled to USA sending money home. That is the backdrop to which the tourist industry was born. The newly installed railway brought tourisits and we were bloody glad to see them.

But I digress.

For the Cornish  movement to be moved forward there needs to be  a higher level of responsibility taken for our own role in the present situation. Blaming upcountry developers/whitehall for everything  conveys the lack of mature responsibility needed to make Cornwall   gov credible.

Hard as i try I'm not convinced by devolution{yet} . Looking at Scotland – they have given themselves free further education and perscriptions but they have'nt raised taxes themselves to pay for it, . We , the rest of UK  are paying for  SNP  re-election  jollies. That situation should never exsist in the first place and once the Jocks are made to pay i wonder how popular independence will seem. Yey already SNP are pushing for further devolvement.

I can't make out any change to Wales over and above what would have happened before devolvement.

P Tre'nbagh

Good reply.

Agreed that over reliance on tourism {or any one source of income} is not wise.

I am not sure that Scotland have wide powers to raise tax but as i understand it they do have some scope and ,so far , have'nt used that option.

If i come across as '' i'm alright jack'' then that is far from the fact. Trust me when i tell you that i am fully aware of how challenging living in Cornwall can be.