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2:56 pm May 11, 2009
| youngcornwall
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I trust you will keep us informed how that meeting goes, just out of interest, with you being someone who knows that area pretty well, where is the source of the river that runs through Tregeseal valley does that not start up on the moor somewhere?
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4:17 pm May 11, 2009
| marhak
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Yes, to the east of the Bog Inn, in the big bowl-shaped, flat-bottomed valley head. There are several sources as you'll see from the OS map. The 'straze' in Bostraze (stras) means a flat-bottomed valley.
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7:49 pm May 11, 2009
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11:36 am May 15, 2009
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Project to graze cattle on moor comes under attack.
According to tinc here
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9:10 pm May 15, 2009
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Full aticle…
NATURAL England's Heath project to graze cattle on West Penwith's open moorland, to control gorse and restore heathland, has come under fire.
Since completing the scheme at Carnyorth Moor, which involved installing barbed wire fencing, a cattle grid and nine new gates, campaign group Save Penwith Moors says the agency hasn't lived up to its promises.
According to co-ordinator Ian McNeil Cooke, Natural England gave an undertaking last January that the bridle gates would be modified to make them openable by riders without hazard and that mounting blocks, to give extra height to make access easier to the saddle, would be installed. "But neither has been done," he said.
The group is also concerned about the cattle using the heavily restored prehistoric Tregeseal Circle as rubbing stones fearing damage is likely to be caused if it continues.
Since longhorn cattle started grazing on the moors at Carnyorth a few days ago, McNeil Cooke says he has already received complaints from horse riders and walkers alike. "Although the longhorn cattle has only been out on Carnyorth Moor for a few days, complaints have already been sent to us," he said.
"One horse rider with children on a leading rein couldn't negotiate the gates or the cattle so they had to abandon their ride on the moor.
"And on Sunday, another couple who were not prepared to dismount and open the gate nearest the pond nor the one above it due to cattle congregating very close to them had to take an alternative route. This involved road works and they were unable to access the moor at the top of Devil's Lane due to the non-availability of anything to remount from her 17.2hh horse.
"They have no issue with cattle in general but didn't want to put their horses in such close proximity to these beasts due to the potential for serious injury to the horse from the horns."
Save Penwith Moors, which argues the project is burying West Ninth's ancient sites and strangling valuable heathland, has declared it is clear that the agencies and graziers involved in the project have completely ignored the concept of dialogue to address public concerns.
But Natural England's land manager Peter Bowden said the bridal gates were discussed at the last Penwith Moors Forum meeting held on Tuesday, May 12.
He added: "I stated that I intended to look into it."
When is Peter Bowen going to look into it then I wonder…
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9:16 pm May 16, 2009
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Strange how the cattle were taken off the moor that very night.
I warned the forum that the slightest damage to the stone circle would result in a prosecution against the farmer, the landowner, Natural 'England" and every single one of its named partners (including the Council) that had instigated and supported the appalling HEATH Project.
At the very end, Ian read out a statement calling for the dismissal of the National Trust's Area Property Manager, Jon Brookes, after the appalling destruction near Carn Galva/Four Parishes, and the illegal activities he had ordered. Other members of the Forum condemned that call. Crummay, from Cornwall Council, was right up Brookes arse as usual, and you won't see the contents of that statement being mentioned in the minutes. Only that a Save Penwith Moors statement was read out. Brookes has apparently threatened to quit the Forum. That is not his decision – it must be the decision of his superiors.
Already, gates are being ripped off their hinges and fences cut. Not by us, I hasten to add, but local people have had enough of their access rights being obstructed, their opinions being ignored and treated with disdain, and the unique landscape that is THEIR heritage being hijacked by external agencies.
The next forum will take the shape of site visits. Already the NT Property Manager's doggie, Steven Crummay from Cornwall Council (now just who pays his wages – he's never more than six inches from Brookes, the NT man? Ah, but didn't Crummay once work for the NT?) is trying to deflect the aims of that. We want the Forum members to see the Carn Galva devastation and the Carn Kenidjack problems for themselves. Crummay wants us to see Rosewall Hill and other places irrelevant to our concerns. So, the site visits will be to Carn Galva and Carn Kenidjack, or they don't happen at all. That's our stance.
The lies are unbelievable. Again, with reference to the NT destruction at Carn Galva, the NT (Brookes) stated in writing that Natural "England" had approved the work. Peter Bowden from NE categorically told the forum that this was not the case at all; that NE had not given its approval.
Little wonder that, locally, people are cancelling their NT memberships in droves.
Do keep looking at the Save Penwith Moors website. (www.savepenwithmoors.com). See what is happening for yourselves. Don't just take my word for it.
edited by: marhak, May 17, 2009 – 09:46 AM
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9:44 am June 3, 2009
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On the subject of lies, the Planning Enforcement section of the former Penwith District Council received complaints from two people more than six months ago in respect of the unauthorised engineering works being carried out on Carn Galva by the National Trust.
In January the Enforcement Officer informed us that a report was to be presented to the Febraury Planning Committee. It wasn't. Subsequent enquiries were deflected.
I have now received written confirmation from the Council that no report was ever produced and that the file simply remains "active".
Why the lies? Why the dragging of feet? Could it be anything to do with the fact that the Council was a named partner in the HEATH Project and are, therefore, implicated? There seems little choice other than to get the Ombudsman involved. I am determined that there WILL be accountability.
In the meantime, the National Trust hierarchy have rejected calls for their Area Property Manager's suspension and ignored the detailing of the illegal works he instructed to be carried out. (Well, there's a surprise). They even say that he is compiling plans for further HEATH Project works on other sites. Really? According to Natural "England", the HEATH Project terminated in March.
In the meantime, I am telling the instigators that no cattle will be put out on the moors until the Health and Safety Risk Assessments for the sites concerned are laid before every member of the forum.
Another member of Save Penwith Moors arranged a site meeting with Peter Bowden from Natural "England" and his "independent" expert, John Waldon. He rang to check yesterday. Bowden's diary for that day is blank, and Waldon cannot be contacted.
Basically, we are being given the "ignore them and they'll go away" treatment. Well, I have news for these people. We are not going away. Not ever.
edited by: marhak, Jun 03, 2009 – 09:47 AM
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10:54 am July 2, 2009
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marhak said:-
I'm reposting this thread, as it seems to have been airbrushed off the C24 Discussion site.
No, it's still here, just not where it used to be. Computers do sometimes do things like that.
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Everyone has their own particular part to play. No part is too great or too small, no one is too old or too young to do something. It is apathy that is the enemy of us all.
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5:40 pm July 2, 2009
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Thanks, Paddy. I spent half an hour looking for it and gave up. Do have a look at the thread, though – there are some updates, one of them a serious accident.
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2:47 pm July 6, 2009
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Planning enforcement have closed the file regarding the huge, destructive excavation works on Carn Galva carried out by the National Trust. Although one of the original complainants, they refuse to allow me to examine the file, simply saying that no breach of planning control has occurred. They have enforced in the recent past against householders digging a modest garden pond as "unauthorised engineering works" but a huge excavation 1 and half kilometres long, several metres wide and a metre or more in depth, where no such feature has been before (and I now have firm documentary proof of that) is "permitted development". The report they stated would be presented to the appropriate committee back in February never materialised. Later, they claimed it was presented verbally (except that no committee member or the then committee clerk recalls any such thing, but another officer states that no such report is on file (which is precisely why I wanted to inspect it). They claim that enforcement files are exempt from the Freedom of Information Act and must remain confidential. Why? There are no personal details other than those of the complainants in it. And both complainants want to see it.
Oh, and neither of the two complainants were informed of the decision by the Enforcement Officer. We only heard via another Council officer (although it has now been confirmed).
It stinks. And I am sick and tired of being lied to. The main partners in the HEATH Project – the Council, Natural "England" and the National Trust are running around covering each other's arse and ensuring that no one can be held accountable. Now I hear murmurs that horse riders may be banned from the moors where they have a right to go under Section 31 of the Highways Act. They seem determined to force a confrontation, despite knowing that there is huge public and civic opposition to it all. Maybe the recent High Court judgement regarding the person who was killed by cattle whilst on the Pennine Way a week or two back will change their mind.
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