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1:31 pm
June 28, 2009


Fulup le Breton

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the original thread can be found on the new forum here: Cornwall and the Right

9:36 pm
June 28, 2009


HeamoorMan

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myghall said:

 

As a Member of the European Parliament I am pleased to say that it is
not within my power to interfere with the Constitutional arrangements of
the United Kingdom. As it happens, I do not support any form of
devolved assembly for Cornwall nor for the Cornish to be recognised as a
national minority.

Yours sincerely
Ashley Fox

Typical English Response to Cornwall and Cornish issues,,,,and they say theye are not predjudice???


Has anyone asked the shadow minister for Cornwall Mark Prisk or David Cameron if they support any form of devolved assembly for Cornwall or for the Cornish to be recognised as a national minority ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..IAarTqZsaU

Mark Prisk appointed Shadow Minister for Cornwall


RegardsnHeamoorMan

8:12 pm
June 29, 2009


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Tories were 'wrong' on devolution

Conservative leader David Cameron has said his party was wrong in the past to oppose Scottish devolution.

"But I think where we went wrong was we should have spent more time in government thinking, how do we give legitimate help to those people within our United Kingdom who want to have a greater expression of self-government?"

More Tory vote grabbing or are we going to see some offers put on the table? What of the Duchy David?

5:34 pm
June 30, 2009


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A quick summary. Cornish nationalism and the Tories so far.

First we had the creation of a 'Shadow Minister for Cornwall' in the person of Mark Prisk. Notice how Cameron describes Cornwall as a Duchy in the clip above, something recommended by the Kilbrandon report many years ago.

Then came the following in – Cameron Calls for Honesty on the State of the Union:

"It is in fact about identity. You see it all over Europe, all over the world. People are seeking a clear identity; often a more localised identity. Just look at the rise of Cornish nationalists. I think we shouldn't fight that; I think we should build on top of that to create an inclusive British identity."

Now we find the Tory leader claiming that the "Tories were ‘wrong’ on devolution" as well as mentioning the UKs 'native minorities' (to be defined).

What next?

In the Duchy Mebyon Kernow have beaten Labour in both the Unitary council and European elections. An interesting perspective is given on that by Matt Wardman in his esay – What happens to Labour if the Tories back strong devolution?

The new administration in the council is a coalition of Tories and Independents some of the latter easily describable as independent Cornish nationalists.

The target for the Conservatives in Cornwall are the Liberal Democrat MPs (Labour are simply a non entity). Traditionally the Lib Dems have often played their Cornishness to the full, commonly to the point of campaigning on nationalist issues. Are the Tories building up to a similar strategy? Will they offer us recognition as a Duchy plus a dash of devolved powers?

With a nod to both Cornish national identity and Cornish euroscepticism they could be onto a winner.

Finally just a note to bookmark this -Tory AM calls for a Welsh parliament in a federal British state. Can we expect the same for Cornwall?

10:37 am
July 1, 2009


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Fulup le Breton said:

Finally just a note to bookmark this -Tory AM calls for a Welsh parliament in a federal British state. Can we expect the same for Cornwall?


I can hear it now: "But Cornwall's in England, duurrr"

Kernowek yw namoy nakevys gen pobel yonk.

10:37 am
July 2, 2009


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An English nationalist pointed me towards the quote below following my comments here that the Tories could be described as greater-England nationalists ie very pro-english but conceive their nation as being England plus some Celtic bits strapped on. The type that confound Britain and England without concern.

Prof Chris Bryant describes these people as the Anglo-British, people who
"do not notice when an institution or person associated with England
performs a British function. For example, it goes unremarked that the Bank of
England is the central bank for all Britain, or that the Archbishop of
Canterbury, the primate of the Church of England, crowns the sovereign of the
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Nor do countless
references to ‘England’ which should have been to ‘Britain’ grate on the English
ear. Walter Bagehot’s famous The English Constitution (1964 [1867]), for
example, does not strike the Anglo-British as mistitled."

9:35 am
July 4, 2009


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7:25 pm
July 7, 2009


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