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Fulub-le-Breton
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Here are some Cornish recipies, what do you think? What other recipies to people know of. I have found a lot of cake and tart stuff, its like the Breton culture for that with their butter cakes, crepes and galette. Cornish Pasty The ingredients below make three pastys, each requiring a 10" diameter circle. 2 cups flour 2 Tablespoons margarine 1/4 cup shortening 1 cup liquid (1/2 cup milk & 1/2 cup water)-may need less 9 oz. very thinly sliced flank steak - partially frozen 14 oz. or 3 medium to large onions, finely chopped thinly sliced potatoes thinly sliced rutabaga (twice as much as potato) salt & pepper to taste Mix the crust together as you would any pastry. Roll and cut out three 10" diameter circles. Onto one half of each circle lay the potato, rutabaga and onion. Lay the sliced steak over the vegetables and add salt and pepper. Bring the other half of the circle over the half with the ingredients and seal the sides well. Bake at 400 degrees for about 1 hour on the middle shelf of the oven. Saffron Cake 8 grains of saffron 1 tsp lemon extract 3/4 cup boiling water 2 1/2 cups flour 1/2 cup butter 2 tsp baking powder 1 1/2 cups sugar 1/4 tsp salt 2 eggs 1 1/2 cups raisins or currants (soak in boiling water & drain) Steep the saffron overnight in the boiling water. Cream the butter, sugar, eggs and lemon. Sift flour, baking powder and salt. Dredge the raisins/currants in the flour and add to the butter mixture alternating with the steeped saffron. Pour into a greased and floured loaf pan. Bake at 350F for at least 1 hour or until done. Cousin Jack Cookies 2 1/4 cups flour 3 tsp. nutmeg 1 cup sugar 1 tsp salt 1/2 tsp baking powder 1 cup currants 1 cup shortening or oleo 1 tsp vanilla 2 eggs Moisten currants with 1/2 cup water or milk. Stir the dry ingredients together. Mix in the shortening, eggs and vanilla. Add the currants with the water or milk (you may need to add more to hold). Roll the cookies out and cut with a cookie cutter (like sugar cookies) or drop by tablespoon onto a cookie sheet. Bake at 350F oven for 12-15 minutes. Cornish thimble tarts My Cornish grandmother, mother and many Cornish women living in the Mineral Point and Linden area in southwestern Wisconsin made these. It was a popular way to use left over pastry dough. Strawberry and raspberry jam or jelly were favorites for filling. 3 cups sifted flour 3-4 Tblsp. ice water 1 tsp. salt jam or jelly 1 cup lard Cut lard into dry ingredients until like coarse meal. Add water a small amount at a time until mixture holds together. Shape into a ball and divide into two equal parts. Chill. Working with one part, flour board, roll out as for pie crust, but slightly thinner. Cut circles with 2 1/2 inch round cutter. Place on cookie sheets close together, prick with fork. Bake in 400F oven for 5-7 min. or until slightly brown. Roll out other half of dough, cut with cutter as above. With a thimble cut three holes in each circle. Bake on cookie sheet at 400F oven for 3-5 min. or until slightly brown. Cool. Top plain half with jam or jelly, cover with thimble cut circle Cornish Heavy (Hevva) Cake 3 cups flour, sifted and measured 1 cup white sugar 1 cup shortening 3 tsp. salt 1 cup currants or raisins, soaked and drained 3 tsp. baking powder 1/2 tsp. nutmeg 1 tsp. lemon extract 1 egg, beaten 2/3 cup milk and additional milk (see below) to make a soft biscuit type dough 1/4 cup white sugar Sift flour, sugar, salt, baking powder and nutmeg into a mixing bowl. Cut in shortening until like corn meal. Add currants. Add lemon extract and beaten egg to 2/3 cup milk. Stir in flour mixture with enough milk to make a soft biscuit type dough. Grease and flour a 9x13" cake pan. Spoon dough into pan and smooth top. Brush with a little milk and sprinkle with 1/4 cup white sugar. Bake in a 375F oven until top is browned and cake tests done - about 20-25 minutes or longer. |
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Mike
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:mrgreen: Note they are American recipes and the oven temperature for the pasties is in Fahrenheit. A Euro oven would make a right cremation. Nice lot of swede (rutabaga) in the recipe. The pasties I have eaten in the States (Michigan) tasted OK but were a funny shape but made a welcome break from the box of donuts (doughnuts). Are you opening Cornish cuisine shop in Paris? |
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hellocthulhu
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You say Rutabaga, he says Swede, I say Turnip ~ let's call the whole thing off! Other Cornish recipies you might like to include... hmmm, maybe Raw Fry or Hogs Pudding? |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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I should have said i robbed the recipies from a US Cornish society website. As to a shop in Paris, well who knows. A Cornish Pub and Shop, peut etre? Also there is a London Cornish Society and a Paris Welsh Society, so why not a? What about Cornish farings (the biscuits)and the pie with the fish heads? And other produce, i know there are some cheeses, fudge, ice cream, clotted cream but what else? For drinks there is a bit of that pan celticism with the stout 'Cornish Cream' and various wines and ciders. Has anybody produced a Whiskey or other strong liquer in Cornwall? Cornwall Branch of CAMRA Campaigning for Real Ale in Cornwall http://www.carnmenellis.demon.co.uk/ Here is a link to Kernows thread on real ale http://www.cornwall24.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=163 edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:24 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Mike
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Here's a link: http://www.alanrichards.org/framepage.htm What about 'Shrub' for adding to seawater-contaminated rum. I'm interested in seafood recipes - Britanny must be a paradise for this |
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Mike
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FlB - you may have seen this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/4196591.stm |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Mike i am torn in all directions at the moment! Getting my head around French language, French history and culture, devouring books on Cornwall and then there are the Breton. I really want to get my french up to scratch before i start investigating Breton culture and language. The sea food is exellent, fresh and good quality. I think it helps that there is more of a market for all sea food in Breizh. So far i have only mooched around the Cote d'Armor and the Loire Atlantic, but Morbhian and Finistere look interesting |
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Mike
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Bon Chance et Chans Vat! |
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Tumbled
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Here's some more Cornish recipies ! http://www.greenchronicle.com/connies_cornish_kitchen.htm |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Ahh you see? Cornish Food!: http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/food/ Cornish Food edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:25 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Why are there no Breton Crépe places in Kernow. This is great food that all Brits, not just the Cornish, would love. The ingredients can be found every where and i'm sure there would be a market in some of the big towns and tourist hot spots! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittany#Gastronomy edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:25 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Kernow
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Try them filled with a sprinkling of Cadburys Flake, then doused with Tia Maria. Ummmmmmmmmm |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Four more Cornish food websites. http://www.foodfromcornwall.co.uk/index.php http://foods-online.co.uk/ http://www.kernowharvest.co.uk/ http://www.cornwallfoodanddrinkfestival.com/ edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:26 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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oops |
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Kattell
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Did anyone else ever have, remember or make Russian Cream? I'm pretty sure it's a uniquely Cornish thing but I've no idea where the name derives from. I'm sure I can get a Russian Cream recipe from my grandmother, I'll ask her. |
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Diane
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Yes I remember making it in Domestic Science class at school,in the 50s. I used to love the whisking, and in first year, often called in to help a friend in a senior class who was there. Come to think of it, it must have been the lunch time that I went in there. Our memories can get muddled sometimes :? |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Golden Cheers for Cornish Bubbly http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/england/cornwall/4244748.stm edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:26 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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This should be added here: http://www.camrakernow.org.uk/ edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:27 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Coady
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The little cafe at Hayle's open air swimming pool did 'crepes' with the usual variety of toppings/fillings last summer, and sitting in the sun with good coffee and crepes took me back to good times in Brittany. I don't know if the same (french) people will be running it THIS summer. |
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Anonymous
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I have often wondered why there are no Breton Crêpe places in Kernow...what is your email Fulub? |
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xxxxxx
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Cornish food is going places! |
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Kernow
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One problem, the prices charged are, in some cases, more than London prices! |
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Hunlef
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Hunlef
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Here's another problem - there's nothing Cornish about any of the end products listed in Mr Alan (Stroppygoth) Thomas' regurgitated BBC blurb, except, perhaps, some of the primary ingredients. I anticipate that once the sun goes down here in Kernow, and Mr Alan (Stroppygoth) Thomas raises himself from the depths of his gothic fantasy coffin, after having first revived his pale vampire-like complexion with lashings of UK government and BBC guff, he will deliver an authorative lecture about Cornish cuisine. Be warned! |
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Hen
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Where in Cornwall is a restaurant that will allow me to eat traditional Cornish food? |
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Mike
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Most restaurants in Cornwall will let you eat traditional Cornish food; it's not against the law yet. You just have to know what to order |
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Hen
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I am more interested in if there are any restaurants that only serve traditional Cornish foods. Do you know of any Mike? Also what would be your recommendations on dishes I should order? StarGazeyRollYerEyes Pie perhaps? |
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Mike
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I don’t know of any restaurants that serve only Cornish traditional food but most would serve a fair portion of the menu as what they deem to be Cornish, certainly using Cornish produce. Pasties, saffron cake and buns, hog’s pudding and heavy cake are traditional but not really restaurant food – café/bakery yes. Many recipes for seafood are described as Cornish, particularly when saffron is used. Some of my favourites using saffron are seared scallops and monkfish. I particularly go for seafood and actually would be attracted to it being cooked Mediterranean style and would be satisfied by it being produce of Cornwall. Lobster in its many guises, crab soup, Newlyn turbot, hake, bass are other recommendations. Next door in Mousehole for stargazey pie. Virtually all the good seafood restaurants are to my liking and I particularly like those of Falmouth, Bistro de la Mer springing to mind. The better Falmouth hotels also have good seafood chefs – St Michaels, Falmouth Beach Resort, Greenbank, Royal Duchy and Falmouth Hotel. Rather than traditional, there is a great increase in nouveau (noweth) Cornish food – cheese, wine, etc. Issue 47 of Cornish World features a lot on Cornish food and produce. |
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xxxxxx
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You really don't think your comments through before posting, do you? |
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Hen
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Nouveau cuisine is great. I really enjoy it. It is fun and creative. But so many places incorporate that into their menus already. I do think there is a definate market for a Cornish Food only restaurant. I reckon the emmets (myself amongst them) would pay the asking price even if it was "above the usual" price. Add in Cornish produce as well and you are onto a nice earner. I go to such restaurants for the experience and I do not mind paying a hefty whack if necessary. I thought nothing of forking out 50 quid for the Elvers entree. (I will never do it again, but I have had it now. |
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sentinel
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Here's a twist. Remember the grubby little cafe in Newquay that was attacked by that nutter from Manchester because it said 'Full English', [he was caught on camera, prosecuted and then promptly vanished up country again]. Well it has now had a sparkling face lift, the foot high Full English letters have gone, there are two Cornish flags in the window together with a large sign saying "We are Cornish people serving Cornish food". |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Breizh Cola: http://www.breizhcola.fr/ Translation of the site: http://uk.search.yahoo.com/language/translatedPage?tt=url&text=http%3a//www.breizhcola.fr/&lp=fr_en&.intl=uk&fr=FP-tab-web-t340 Its a Cola drink produced by a Breton company, not very traditional at all but it has found a market and is a modern symbol of Breton identity. Breizh Cola campaigns for the Breton Language! Imagin if Rowes, Ginsters or Skinners did the same? And for all those who want to stick two fingers up to Pepsi and Coke its a good choice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breizh_Cola How about Breizh Cola for Kernow? What about Kernow Cola? edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:28 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Coady
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We have had Kernow Cola for Donkeys Years! It's called "Hick's H.S.D" and its for sale at St Austell Brewery Pubs. Forget the Frog pop and get a pint of Hicks down you! Graham. |
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angofbew
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Although I agree with the Alcholic input Graham. We do have to remember that we are more closely related to the Bretons than the English. Otherwise i agree 100%, Cola is bad for you |
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Coady
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Well, I hear what you say......But what have the pleasant Bretons got to do with the deplorable French? |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Oh right then, must remember that next time its me doing the driving! Pillock. |
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Coady
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Uh oh...looks like the unofficial ceasefire on name calling is breaking down already |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Name calling huh, well when me and my French missus are in the Duchy tomorrow perhaps you would like to explain to her what you meant by the following. Like i said, you are a pillock. |
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Coady
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You're right. I apologise abjectly. It was deeply wrong of me to denigrate a whole race on such a tolerant and well mannered forum as this. The high regard which La Belle France holds for everything to do with Britain is legendary. The great respect they have for us, and the scrupulous politeness of the French Nation toward us is exemplary. Their political correctness and treatment of ethnic minorities is a beacon in the darkness. Their support in all international matters makes us grateful.The weapons they supplied to Argentina DURING the Falklands war were of superbe quality. Why, even my Algerian and Indo Chinese friends regularly remark on how great was the French contribution to their countries, and how they enjoy France's continuing interest in them. My lorry driving friends simply LOVE the endless days admiring the French countryside from their truck cabs when the fabulous French farmers, hold a lovely barricade of ports and british produce, brightened by the amusing burning of the British flag. My farming friends are delerious with joy that French farmers can farm happily in old fashioned ways on huge EU subsidies, helping our farmers to early retirement. Our Fishermen too simply love the French, and decommision and chop up their trawlers so their gallic counterparts can enjoy better business.. I could go on, But one can overdo fulsome praise......... ...sorry again. |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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So you squeal about name calling whilst at the same time making xenophobic comments about another nation, and then you don't have the guts to apologise. What do you know you, I live here and they lack politeness no more than any other nation. Discrimination and racism from some one who whinges on about anti Englishness. Think you are forgetting the Brits abroad plus the footie hooligans! True always room for improvement but they have a constitution. So who didn't have an empire? And for this you judge an entire nation? The rest of your post is essentially an EU matter and nothing to do with the French people, Governments and People Graham see the difference? There is nothing new about Westminster shafting Cornwall in its negotiations with the EU. So just to revise my earlier comment. You are a spineless, xenophobic, hypocritical pillock. |
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Coady
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...but sane. Now take your pretty pills and have a nice sleep. There, there. |
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Coady
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(UN Peacekeeping Force....UN and US pledge 15,000 troops....France pledges 200..and its THEIR ex colony!!!) |
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FlammNew
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Not really in the French nature to defend though, is it? |
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Coady
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(stifled spasm) "Courez loin, courez loin !" |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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As far as the French system is concerned for race relations what do you prefer rioting multi ethnic gangs that burn cars or Pakistani (largely) suicide bombers on the tube? Anyway to try and get this back on thread and away from racist trolls with moth balled truncheons. I see the Helzephron Herb Farm has a shop in Aberfal now. Do a good range of organic sauces, dips, jams etc etc. you can also help your self to free samples. Couldn't find a website for them though. Dropped into to Ann's Pasty shop while back in the Duchy, pretty dam good for the Lizard. |
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FlammNew
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I saw a Cornish recipe for "Muggetty Pie" once - basically it was intestines wound round into a pie dish and covered with pastry. Mmmmmm..... |
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Coady
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Gosh Fulub, you really don't like me, do you....and been doing your homework too, I see? I wonder why I am so racist for expressing criticism of France, yet its Ok for you and others to criticise England, or America..One rule for one etc. etc. Anyway, is it just me, or is shop bought 'saffern cake and buns' getting tastless? |
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Coady
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Runner Bean Chutney!! Brilliant on the side of the plate with pasties whether home made or shop bought. |
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FlammNew
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IMO it's sacrelige to put anything on a plate with a proper pasty, whether it's chutney, pickle, carrots or salad. |
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Kattell
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You use a plate? :shock: What's wrong with a paper bag? :wink: |
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FlammNew
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Slip of the keyboard mate! |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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I don't like some of the things you say but the internet is a flawed medium. No, you attacked "the French" not France, i live among the French and love one of them dearly. Please find where i have attacked the English or Americans, sure i have critisised the state and etsbalishment but thats not the same. Back to food. My dad was telling me of a recipe, basically a stew but with dumplings stuffed with meat floating in it. Anybody else heard of it? |
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Kernow
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Like i said, you are a pillock. Hello Mr H, pleasant as ever............. KFC |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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oooo i got chills! Roskillys of Cornwall! A true great: https://secure.youruk.net/safepayment/ Helford Creek Apple juice and cider farm: http://www.helfordcreek.co.uk/ Lynher dairies (the makers of yarg): http://www.lynherdairies.co.uk/lyhner.html The Pasty.com: http://shop.thepasty.com/ edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:30 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Personaly i think all cornish producers should get e-mails explaining the value of the Celtic Cornish brand. |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Sainsburys wrote back to me and invited anyone who produces Celtic or Cornish produce to submit them for possible sale in their stores: www.supplysomethingnew.co.uk Waitrose have also been very kind in responding to me and giving me details of how they support local produce. I wrote back to both with the following: Dear............ Thank you for your thoughtful response. I think any retailer in the Duchy would do well to note that a recent survey by the University of Plymouth found that, when given the opportunity, over a third of pupils in Cornish schools identified themselves as Cornish. A survey conducted by Morgan Stanley found that 44% of Cornish inhabitants surveyed felt "Cornish" rather than "British" or "English". Lowena dhys FLB |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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SUPPORT CORNISH BUSINESSES AND BUY ONLINE Buy Cornwall is an Internet shopping site promoting businesses operating in this beautiful part of the country Buy Cornwall: http://www.buycornwall.co.uk/ |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Keltek Brewery: http://www.keltekbrewery.co.uk/ Here is a great site about independence, brewing independants that is! Cornish Breweries The Independents West of the Tamar: http://www.carnmenellis.demon.co.uk/html/brewers.htm Trevaskis Farm: http://www.trevaskisfarm.com/ edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Apr 14, 2007 - 02:31 PM The Cornish Democrat The Breton Connection |
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Kernow
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Phil, nice to see you taking an interest in Kernow, from afar, some of us buy goods in real shops in the Duchy............... |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Some strange people out there huh? |
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Kernow
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Morning Phil, how is the weather in France? |
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Shaz
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Any chance someone could translate this into Kernewek for me please... Saffron Cake Cooking time and temperature: Bake at 350º Gas mark 4 for approx 1½ hours Ingredients: All should be organic... 6 ozs margarine 6 ozs caster sugar 8 ozs self raising flour 2 eggs 1 lb currants ½ dram saffron soaked in 2 tbsp hot water. Method: 1.Cream the margarine and sugar. 2.Beat in the eggs with a spoon of sieved flour 3.Add saffron water 4.Mix currants and sieved flour 5.Carefully fold into mixture |
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Fulub-le-Breton
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Strange for someone from the far right to be interested in other countries. |
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Coady
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Shaz....How the heck do you get organic MARGARINE (use butter?)..and IS there Organic CASTER sugar? (used unrefined cane sugar) ..and is tap water 'organic' with all the treatments it gets, or should you be using bottled spring water..better still, boiled river water, thats organic! ..and as saffron is the stamens (?) of the saffron crocus flower, laboriously picked by near slave labour, yet sold at gold level prices, should we be buying it at all? :mrgreen: |
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Shaz
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Of course your right Coady didn't think, I so wanted to get a Cornish recipe translated, is saffron cake actually traditional? You can get organic just about anything, didn't know about the saffron. Margarine is really plactic, and we don't eat much dairy, maybe butter once a year or so, the milk marketing board, another bloody con... |
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Mike
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Yes, saffron cake is typically traditional Cornish and a good starting recipe for translation. |
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Coady
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Get local made butter from organic herds, Shaz..its around. Its contents are...."Butter and salt." (You might even be able to get unsalted) I suspect a little bit of organic butter might be less harmful than the hundreds of additives in the various 'margarines' Saffern Cake was being made with organic ingredients in the old days..because you could only GRT organic ingredients, there was nothing else! ...and your cake will taste nicer with butter. |
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Shaz
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Coady I'm not making a cake, I thought it a good idea to get a traditonal recipe translated, the recipe I chose is pretty shabby... |
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Coady
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no snags. |
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Branvras
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Tesenn Safron Termyn rag kegi ha tempredh: Pob dhe 350º, Gas gradh 4, rag a-dro dhe 1½ our Devynydhyow: Peub a dal bos organek... 6 ouns margarin 6 ouns sugra fin 8 ouns bleus burmek 2 oy 1 peuns figys korynt ½ las safron segys yn 2 loas-voes a dhowr toemm Mayn: 1. Dyenn an margarin ha'n sugra warbarth. 2. Gwask an oyow y'n kemmysk gans loas a vleus ridrys. 3. Keworr an dowr safron. 4. Kemmysk an figys korynt ha'n bleus ridrys. 5. Pleg gans rach a-berth y'n kemmysk. |
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Shaz
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Meur Ras Branvras... |
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Shaz
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:idea: I went of on an idea about making a Cornish cookbook written in the language with lots of nice pics, not sure really, It seems quite easy to read recipes in Cornish, and understand them in english (if you know what I mean) |
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Shaz
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Mean while back in the kitchen... I think that the recipe book idea is a good one...if any one is up for it or has any idea's you'd better email us |
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Shaz
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So am I right in thinking that margarin is not a Cornish word? what about sugar? |
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FlammNew
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Not sure what you're asking, Shaz. I think you'll find sugra has been in use in Cornish for quite a while. Ultimately, margarine isn't "English" either, and sugar is from Sanskrit. |
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Kattell
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I haven't got my reference books with me but I'm not sure if using "dyenn" is correct in this use. Doesn't it need to be from the verb "dyenna" or something similar? "kemmyska" maybe? :? |
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lyskerrys
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How about "beat"? (kronkya???) |
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Branvras
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It IS from the verb "dyenna"! I decided "cream" in English must mean more than just "mix"...something like "mix to a cream"...and therefore "dyenna" seemed as good as anything, if not better than most. Otherwise it's a fairly useless verb - how often do you say "I'm making cream"? And in any case, you'd be more likely to say "yth esov ow kul dyenn" than "yth esov ow tyenna". I think. I did consider "beat together" but in Cornish that comes out sounding like "hit together" or "press together" or even "strike together". At least, it did for me! Shaz's question is interesting - I doubt whether "sugra" is in the traditional texts (I haven't got my reference books either!) and "margarin" certainly isn't. But "sugra" is used by everyone and is Cornish as much as "sugar" is English. "Margarin" is less common, and I've no doubt some people say "marjarin", but I've seen "margarin" in Cornish recipes before so it's fine too as far as I'm concerned. What other word could we or would we use instead? "Hydrogenated vegetable oil" is a right mouthful in Cornish (no pun intended)... |
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Nosdan
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