| Topic: | The Basher Family, still in Cornwall? |
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VandalBasher
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Does anyone know of anyone with that name? I am an American. My grandfather was from the Helston area. And there is a place called Bashers Harbour. I just wanted to know if there was any connection. I have a trip planned for the near future. Thank you in advance. |
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Hen
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The on-line BT Phone book lists 3 Basher's residing in Helston, 1 in Newquay and 1 in Cambourne. Perhaps you could call them and enquire as to whether there was a family connection? http://www.thephonebook.bt.com/publisha.content/en/find/residential/residential_numbers.publisha |
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Hunlef
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'Cambourne' isn't in Cornwall. This poster, a well-known Oracle on all things Cornish from 12,000 miles away in Canberra can't always be trusted to get her 'facts' right. 'Cambourne' is in Cambridgeshire. Nevertheless, we do have a 'Camborne', a Cornish word meaning 'crooked hill' in English, consisting of some 30,000 souls, some 6 miles from Hayle. However, to return to the original poster's query, yes, there are Bashers still living in the area between Hayle and Helston consisting, as I recall of two generations (possibly three now) of the same family. |
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lyskerrys
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"Cambourne"???? :shock: :shock: :shock: Shame on you, Hen. VandalBasher, in the mid-1800s there was a "Boadicea Basher" working as a domestic servant for the Forsaith family in Redruth, and I think another Boadicea Basher died in the 1900s, but I don't know the detailed family history. |
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Hen
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I will admit to raising my eyebrows when Cambourne came up in my search for Basher's in Helston. I thought I would just transcribe the information as recieved from BT. Blame BT not me for Cambourne coming up. Hey, they may have recently moved there from Helston? At least there is proof of a number of healthy Bashers, eh? (Well ... maybe not healthy, but they still paid their phone bills. |
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lyskerrys
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The phone book lists 18 Bashers, so they are still around. |
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Bill_of_Polgarth
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I have a short History of The Basher Family of Rinsey Helston Cornwall if you are interested. They were miners, carpenters and smugglers. |
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Ceallach
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Bill, I would be very interested in your History of the Bashers. This is my father's surname and his family came from roughly the same area. Also would be very happy to share any info I may have, although it doesn't amount to much! There was an article in a clmbing magazine about Basher's harbour a couple of years ago. |
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PilgrimFather
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A pity I didn't come here months ago - I hope some of you still visit! My grandmother's name was Basher & would be interested to hear from other members of the family. |
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Ceallach
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Not sure if I can tell you much about your family connections. However, I'm also descended from the Cornish "Bashers". No connections left with anyone in Cornwall though! |
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bashers
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Hello. Just stumbled across this site while on google bored. Just to let you know that there are Bashers still in Cornwall my dad comes from helston and so did his dad. |
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bashers
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So has anyone found out where we got this surname from? |
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PilgrimFather
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The only member of the family whom I met was my great-uncle Randolph, the brother of my grandmother. I imagine this was 1970 or a touch before, in Hayle. My wife chuckles that I am related to "Randy Basher"... Not to mention the lovely Boadicea. Do either of these feature among your antecedents? |
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Ceallach
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Nice to see the Basher thread coming to life again! My grandfather's birth (Kenneth Basher) was also registered in Helston. Athough I think his family lived outside the town somewhere. I found an old (12th century) law case from Somerset (?) that mentions the surname Basher and also uses the variant Boscher. This is on the web if anyone wants the link. Bosch is old Norman/Flemish for wood so it might have meant woodsman or forester. There is a place in South Wales called Bosherstown and various versions of the name are known in SE Ireland which was heavily settled by the Norman/Flemish. Of course it could also just have been a job title that got turned into a surname. |
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TBasher
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My family originates from the Bashers around Helston. My grandfather was borne there. We have a family bible with a family tree beginning with a marriage in 1776. We were always told that the ancestor of the Cornish Bashers was a Breton sailor shipwrecked at Basher's Harbour (or Cove as I was originally told) and that he was one of two brothers in the wreck to be rescued and he stayed and married a farmer's daughter some time in the 17th century. My Dad's cousin did try to trace the Breton origins years ago and thought that the name may have originated as something like Bassiere? I would really like to get information further back that 1776 if anyone can help, thanks. |
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Ceallach
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This web page http://falcon.arts.cornell.edu/prh3/bktales.html has a record of a legal case from c1200AD which refers to a Mr Basher/Boscher. Scroll down to "CUSIN (MONACHUS) v. FITZJOHN (1196-1201)" or do edit-find on 'Basher'. I had heard of a Breton link but my grandfather died quite young and it was just a passing comment made by my grandmother. I also heard the full story elsewhere. The name also seems sometimes to have been spelled as Bassher/Basshar etc in earlier centuries. |
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Ceallach
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btw T, would be interested to know if your bible family tree had any reference to (H)ester Anne (b 1882 - daughter of James Basher)or an Albert Henry Basher (b 1978/9) ? I suppose anyone with the name Basher from the Helston area must connect up somewhere along the line! |
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TBasher
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Ceallach: I have a James Basher born 1848, but have no information of any decendents from him. His brother was Richard born 1840, and he married Hester Anne Rogers in 1873. They were my great grand parents. I could not find the others that you mentioned. Thanks for replying. Tony |
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Ceallach
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Thanks Tony. What was James' and Richard's father's name? Would help me confirm if it is the same James. Would you mind emailing me on seanchas.tours(at)hotmail.com ? I have several bits and pieces of info gathered a few years ago that might interest you. |
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TBasher
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Ceallach: I tried to send an email to you but it was returned indicating that it is not a correct email address. Anyway this is the ancestory: John Johannes) Bashure married Ursula Oliver in 1776, they had a son James Basher born in 1781, he inturn had a son Richard born in 1807 who later married Elizabeth Lambro one of their sons was the Richard born in 1840. I can send you more info if you can correct your email address. Thanks, Tony |
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Ceallach
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Thanks Tony. Were you putting the @ sign instead of the (at)? I was trying to avoid getting spam mail. The proper way to write it is: seanchas.tours@hotmail.com Hope that works - if not replace 'seanchas.tours' with this word: talyrni I'm trying to compare names and dates to the Cornish Census of 1871. will let you know how I get on. |
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blairjohns
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I am researching the Basher family for a friend, Jim Basher of St. Keverne. I have got back to Alexander in 1701. Jim also knows the story of the shipwrecked brothers. He was told by his family that he was a descendant. His grandfather was James Basher born 1883 at St. Martin. |
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TBasher
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I do have a family tree going back to a marriage in 1776, that will have some common ground with the information you have. I am happy to send you a copy. Tony |