Topic:	Family Tree DNA
Shaz Posts: 1294 Posted: 31.Jan 2007 - 20:41	Family tree DNA... http://www.familytreedna.com/
Shaz Posts: 1294 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 19:11	Has anyone seen this, I know there was something posted on here about DNA before. Apparently they can work out your ancestry from the Y chromosone which is pasted down the father's line. They are also doing a Celtic study Do you think it is possible to pass emotional memory down the line. Some people believe in reincarnation, I reckon that if you can share the looks of your forbearers then maybe thoughts and memories can be passed down, this would give good reason as to why people can have feelings of familiarity with places that they've never been to before.
troll Posts: 567 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 20:54	If you proved that you'd be on for a Nobel prize...
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 21:28	"Shaz" Do you think it is possible to pass emotional memory down the line. Some people believe in reincarnation, I reckon that if you can share the looks of your forbearers then maybe thoughts and memories can be passed down, this would give good reason as to why people can have feelings of familiarity with places that they've never been to before. Err, no, not really, given that these things are shaped by synaptic processes, whereas, by and large, all DNA does is give instructions to make proteins and stuff. besides, with the 2m of DNA in (almost every) human cell, imprinting stuff at a molecular level will take LOADS of space up. If it did, though, would you really want to relive the moment that you were conceived?
Shaz Posts: 1294 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 21:35	QuoteIf it did, though, would you really want to relive the moment that you were conceived? I reckon it would be more subtle than that
Ellery Posts: 286 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 21:56	http://www.peopleofthebritishisles.org/ This DNA test is free but you don't get personal results.
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 22:01	heh, I have a feeling I know a couple of them.
frenchie Posts: 1691 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 22:31	QuoteErr, no, not really, given that these things are shaped by synaptic processes, whereas, by and large, all DNA does is give instructions to make proteins and stuff. What about RNA?
Mike Posts: 2537 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 22:37	Masterclass - they say the use of Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA is better than just the use of the former (which reflects father parental line). Any comments on this? They use this for "sorting out" spreads of Viking, Saxon and Celts and similar bods. then they try and correlate this to archaeological findings
frenchie Posts: 1691 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 23:16	QuoteErr, no, not really, given that these things are shaped by synaptic processes, whereas, by and large, all DNA does is give instructions to make proteins and stuff. What about RNA? While investigated astrological theories of how transiting planets trigger off events/sequences in a person's life by forming angular relationships to the positions of planets at the time of birth, I read an interesting article that related the 'fixed' position of planets when your born as described in an astrological birthchart, to a pattern stored in DNA, and that the supposed effects of a planetary transit to these 'fixed' positions were the domain of RNA. That is, RNA plays a genetic role that is time specific, and possible in some way affects the outcome of what DNA is doing to the body at the time. Geneticists have recently discovered a plant that 'fixes' it's own inherited genetic faults and attributes this to RNA behaving in a similar way to having a back up copy of an original, faultless' version of the DNA. Just like you can re-install a software program if you mess up your current version. Could Shaz's memories from the past, or deja vu even, be down to RNA releasing partial information from the past by accessing this 'back up script'? There's more about it here
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 23:19	Frenchie: the central dogma is DNA goes to RNA goes to protein. That's the simple answer (as regards your article, I'll have a proper look see tomorrow, as it is a bit late to go into explanations) QuoteMasterclass - they say the use of Y-chromosome and mitochondrial DNA is better than just the use of the former (which reflects father parental line). Any comments on this? They use this for "sorting out" spreads of Viking, Saxon and Celts and similar bods. then they try and correlate this to archaeological findings Right, I'll keep this as short and simple as I can, although i am happy to go into greater detail: If you want an answer to a "who came from where" question, then looking at the Y chromosome is a good start. This is because it's a fairly short stretch of DNA, which, luckily for us, contains repeating regions (imagine when a newspaper accidentally reprints a sentence so it looks a bit newspaper accidentally reprints a sentence so it looks a bit newspaper accidentally reprints a sentence so it looks a bit newspaper accidentally reprints a sentence so it looks a bit newspaper accidentally reprints a sentence so it looks a bit and so on, you get the idea). It is possible, then to look for these repeat sequences, across the Y chromosone and track it down. To when the repeat sequences either a) changed, or b) stopped or c) something other than. Mitochondria are, by and large ( I do no of exceptions) passed on from the maternal line, and given that there is a known error rate in the copying of the DNA, one cana ge it by comparing it to a baseline. Hope that helps.
frenchie Posts: 1691 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 23:22	Quotethe central dogma is DNA goes to RNA goes to protein. That's the simple answer. Never accept dogma, always look beyond the simple answer..
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 23:32	"frenchie" Quotethe central dogma is DNA goes to RNA goes to protein. That's the simple answer. Never accept dogma, always look beyond the simple answer.. Right, OK. Do you want the long answer?
frenchie Posts: 1691 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 23:34	QuoteRight, OK. Do you want the long answer? Not if you're going to pin it down to an ultimate truth...
Mike Posts: 2537 Posted: 1.Feb 2007 - 23:37	Quote Mitochondria are, by and large ( I do no of exceptions) passed on from the maternal line, Thanks Masterclass, that is what I thought I read
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 2.Feb 2007 - 01:05	"frenchie" QuoteRight, OK. Do you want the long answer? Not if you're going to pin it down to an ultimate truth... Which RNA are you interested in, then, to go back to your original query? I'm happy to talk about DNA until the sun goes down and the cows come home. So unless there's a specific point that you are trying to make here, can you make it clear? Thanks.
frenchie Posts: 1691 Posted: 2.Feb 2007 - 10:57	QuoteI'm happy to talk about DNA until the sun goes down and the cows come home. So unless there's a specific point that you are trying to make here, can you make it clear? Thanks. I'm interested in most things to do with life. How about posting any of your 'answers' in English Prime; genetics is a wide open subject in my book.
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 7.Feb 2007 - 11:10	Which answers? (apologies, I missed this the other day) Erm, where were we?
CJenkin online Posts: 709 Posted: 7.Feb 2007 - 15:19	Regarding arguments of Cornish DNA - this article makes ome interesting arguments: http://www.irishdemocrat.co.uk/anonn-is-anall/relax-were-all-anglo-saxon-anyway/
Mike Posts: 2537 Posted: 7.Feb 2007 - 16:46	Good one CJenkin
Hunlef Posts: 1828 Posted: 7.Feb 2007 - 19:30	Excellent article, CJenkin.
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 8.Feb 2007 - 08:03	Its publishers seem to have an interesting history at least.
Masterclass Posts: 880 Posted: 8.Feb 2007 - 08:10	QuoteWhat about RNA? RAN in which context? It's quite a busy molecule. QuoteWhile investigated astrological theories of how transiting planets trigger off events/sequences in a person's life by forming angular relationships to the positions of planets at the time of birth, I read an interesting article that related the 'fixed' position of planets when your born as described in an astrological birthchart, to a pattern stored in DNA, and that the supposed effects of a planetary transit to these 'fixed' positions were the domain of RNA. That is, RNA plays a genetic role that is time specific, and possible in some way affects the outcome of what DNA is doing to the body at the time. I doubt this very much. QuoteGeneticists have recently discovered a plant that 'fixes' it's own inherited genetic faults and attributes this to RNA behaving in a similar way to having a back up copy of an original, faultless' version of the DNA. Just like you can re-install a software program if you mess up your current version. I've not read the Nature paper, so can't really comment on this. Cells do have proof reading enyzymes that have good error rates as well. I'll have a flick through later if I've time. QuoteCould Shaz's memories from the past, or deja vu even, be down to RNA releasing partial information from the past by accessing this 'back up script'? Emphatically not.