Topic: Kernow yn Breten Veur
DenAnkoth
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Posted:
11.Mar 2007 - 17:06

Dydh da!

I'm a Saxon learning Cornish (if such things are allowed!), and interested in how the majority of Cornish people want themselves and Cornwall to be perceived within Great Britain. Does anybody have any insight into this? I've read about the 2001 census fiasco, which would imply that only 7% of people living in Cornwall are Cornish (yeah, right!). 50% sounds more reasonable. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Do the majority of Cornish people want Cornwall to continue to be perceived as a county? Or do they prefer duchy? Or something entirely different? Maybe it's not that simple.

Dyw genowgh


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Shaz
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Posted:
11.Mar 2007 - 17:14

Hello Den

Check this out...

http://www.this...owsongs4.htm



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DenAnkoth
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Posted:
11.Mar 2007 - 17:15

Thank you Shaz. Gonna have a nice little read now...


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DenAnkoth
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Posted:
11.Mar 2007 - 17:38

Beautifully presented. Certainly plucked at my heartstrings and I ain't even Cornish. Has Downing Street been sent a copy?


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Shaz
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Posted:
11.Mar 2007 - 19:14

Yes I reckon it has a broad audience.

The song was written by a Cornish man who up until five years ago knew little of the culture and heritage of his people. As well as being a musician he is an avid sports man he is also campaigning for Cornwall's recognition in the Common Wealth games.

There are a lot of Cornish people who seem confused about their heritage etc, it is not encouraged by the Anglocentric Government.

There are some very knowledgeable people on this site, if they sometimes come across as anti English they are not referring to the English people but to the English establishment that suppresses them.

There are also some English people who seem to be a true reflection of this etablishment, we tend to clash a bit with those... be we Cornish or English icon_biggrin









edited by: Shaz, Mar 11, 2007 - 07:17 PM



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DenAnkoth
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11.Mar 2007 - 20:04

Hmm, well I'm not all that enamoured by the English establishment (which, in my mind, is a massive machine, incorporating millions of people).

The whole Celtic/Anglo-Saxon polarity thing is a bit misleading. I might be misinterpreting the facts, but my understanding of population genetics is that most of the inhabitants of these islands are direct descendants of Mesolithic and Neolithic settlers, and only a small percentage descended from subsequent Belgic, Roman, and Germanic invaders.

So, yes, I feel like shouting "Kernow bys vykken!" too.


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Ellery
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Posted:
11.Mar 2007 - 22:58

Probably the main genetic influx(before recent times) was that of the Vikings.

We will make Cornwall see the lies.
We will open up their eyes.
We Cornish born and bred.
We fight on till we all are dead.

http://petition...nocide-1549/
DenAnkoth
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Posted:
11.Mar 2007 - 23:18

Yes, and the Normans, maybe? But even their genes make up only a tiny percentage of the present gene pool, or so it's claimed. I like your signature by the way.



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frenchie

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Posted:
12.Mar 2007 - 00:10

Genetics has nothing to do with culture..

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DenAnkoth
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12.Mar 2007 - 00:29

I understand, but they give an insight into the history of how a genetic population may lose its original culture in the acceptance of another. It can help to validate people's antipathy towards a culture they've been brainwashed into thinking theirs by birth. Hope that makes sense.


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