This looks an interesting website. Hello to you all! My late Grandmother told me my great grandfather, Harry Stevens was a lay methodist preacher. His Cornish parents went to live in Darwen in Lancashire, in order to get employment. My great grandfather became a partner in a paper mill in Darwen. He married a Lancashire woman, my Great grandmother, Maggie. They both died just before my birth in 1959. My grandmother and mother moved back to Cornwall when I was four months old. Cornwall is the only place I can call home. It's only natural one wants to learn as much as possible about their fore fathers, and identify with their roots. I'm interested to know more about my great grandfather Harry Stevens parents. I can't really do much research along these lines at the moment, as I'm studying a journalism course, and that takes up so much of my time. I do hope by joining this forum, I will meet some interesting people, and learn more about Cornwall and its people.
Stonefly Posts: 694
Posted: 20.Mar 2005 - 13:10
Welcome home
JackieHolden
Posts: 6
Posted: 20.Mar 2005 - 14:06
Thanks Stonefly! Tell me a bit yourself, if you don't mind. What brought you to this Forum, and have you made lots of friends here? I'm looking forward to learning more about the history of Cornwall and the Cornish. I've just turned 46, and I guess people start thinking about their roots and heritage as they start getting older. I'm interested in this whole thing about Cornwall being a Country and not just a County. And, I'm also interested in looking at how Cornwall differs from its neighbours, and what are those differences. I know Cornwall had, and still has its own language, and some people can speak the Cornish language; I really find that quite fascinating.
Mike Posts: 2300
Posted: 20.Mar 2005 - 17:30
Welcome Jacki. This may be a quick link to start your search:
http://www.cornish-forefathers.com/
Fulub-le-Breton Posts: 3940
Posted: 20.Mar 2005 - 19:01
National identity lives in the human heart, Cornish, English, Russian, Chechen or other. Its just that sometimes the nation does not coincide with a sovereign state.
Thanks Mike and Fulub! On Thursday we finish College for the Easter break, so I can have a proper look at these websites. I'm really glad I came across this website, you seem a fiendly bunch!
Diane Posts: 789
Posted: 21.Mar 2005 - 00:47
Welcome JackieHolden, yes I think we're a friendly bunch here. I was born in Cornwall and lived there for 27yrs, married and moved to Australia. Love it here, but still yearn for news of home.
JackieHolden
Posts: 6
Posted: 25.Mar 2005 - 21:26
Hi Diane, what part of Cornwall are you from? I'm here in St Ives We have a lot of tourists here for the Easter break. When were you last in Cornwall for a visit? I suppose being part of the Forum is a good way of staying in touch with what is going on. You can read the local newspapers online too...the Cornishman, West Briton and the Western Morning news etc. A lot has changed in 27 years for sure. I never thought life here in St Ives wuld ever change, but it has. I never dreamed we would have to install CCTV cameras' to monitor crime, but we have. It's appalling. Many had hoped St Ives wouldn't turn into a Newquay, but well I don't know...at the end of the day, businesses want to appeal to the visitors, and the local community are secondary. That's just my personal opinion, but others have voiced the same concerns. How do you celebrate Easter over there? Same as here, easter eggs etc....have a lovely Easter Diane, and everyone who posts here.
Diane Posts: 789
Posted: 25.Mar 2005 - 23:36
I was born in St Just, always went to St Ives for our Sunday school outing, how exciting was that!!, and it was in the 50s. I've been home about 9 times, twice as a family, hubby, son & daughter when they were children. luckily we had a good summer there and a family Christmas. They have great memories of those trips. Later I went on my own to visit family. I was last there in 2002. when my mum passed away. I was there in 2000, when the Gorsedd was in St Just. Don't know when I'll make the trip again. I haven't noticed the changes too much, visiting regularly. We're retired now and live in the same sort of area as Penwith. Tourism, farming and fishing, close to the sea, in fact perfect, peaceful after years in Melbourne. It's a mad house here at Easter and Christmas, but like Penwith, tourism is our bread & butter these days. Easter is the same here, except that we're going into Autumn instead of Spring. Have a good Easter, spring is a nice time of year there.
JackieHolden
Posts: 6
Posted: 1.May 2005 - 10:37
Hi Diane, things have been quite hectic, and I've only just come back to this message board. Glad I have, cos I really enjoyed reading this. I hope to share more soon. I'm doing some research for a College assignment, and I came across this persons name, and I wanted an email address for him: Fulub Le Breton. Do you or anyone else here know him perhaps?
porthia1947
Posts: 694
Posted: 4.May 2005 - 17:57
I agree with Jackie about businesses seeing the needs of the local community as secondary to those of visitors. A lawyer might ask retorically cui bono? Cui bono? .... we know for what or whose benefit!! One poignant reminder of how the needs of indigenous local communities are given a lower priority was highlighted by the line of new Yellow Pages still lying on all but one or two of the doorsteps on both sides of Island Road (St Ives) a week and probably longer, after they had first been delivered. I don’t think I need to spell out why they hadn’t been picked up and taken in within a few days of delivery. This is a row of, I would guess at least 50 houses and no doubt this was repeated in many streets, roads, lanes and alleyways throughout St Ives and all of the other towns and village throughout Cornwall.
JackieHolden
Posts: 6
Posted: 10.May 2005 - 00:48
Hey Diane, you'll never believe this; I was about to close down all the pages on my computer, and this page was on my cpmputer with your letter staring out at me. I didn't open this page tonight!!! Guess I'm meant to read it. That would make a brilliant photo and news story! I'm studying journalism, oh our first year exams happening now and until June; ohh shorthand (scary). I'm doing an interesting case study, and it's about Cornwall, so in due course and when I'm not as shattered, I'll share it with you. It's 00.46 hrs here, and I'm just a wee bit tired. So off to sleep now. Guess you'll all be up over there, not sure of the time difference, I know you're way ahead of us.
Masterclass
Posts: 875
Posted: 10.May 2005 - 01:37
Porthia, thanks for using a large font, saves me getting my glasses.
Anyawy, occasionally, some pople go on 'holiday'. That's when they leave their home for a week or two and go elsewhere. I'm asuming that you are making a comment about second homes.
Kernow
Posts: 248
Posted: 10.May 2005 - 14:44
When I go on holiday my neighbours take in my Yellow Pages.
Are you saying the residents of Island Road all go on holiday together?
Masterclass
Posts: 875
Posted: 10.May 2005 - 21:28
That's jolly nice of them.
Do they? That''s really good. I like a good sense of community, I do.
Diane Posts: 789
Posted: 11.May 2005 - 00:46
I'm not sure what you're talking about regarding story, perhaps it was my small bio. I am interested in writing and have been ia member of the Fellowship of Australian Writers [FAW] for many years. Written a few poems and short stories and my bio. which I hope to put into print later this year. Growing up in the 40s/50s was an interesting time, editing is what bores me, reading and re-reading and adding things that I'd forgotten to put in.
Kernow
Posts: 248
Posted: 12.May 2005 - 00:50
To the old MC, why do you not allow yourself to answer a question?
Should you ever find yourself in Cornwall, go to the `seaside resorts` in October and you will find plenty of yellow pages still in the streets because 25/30% of homes have been sold to anyone with the cash so buy them.
It seems to me that whilst everyone complains about 2nd/holiday home owners it was the prevoius owner, perhaps a Cornish person, who sold it, no doubt at a bloody good profit.
PS. Anyone moving to an English shire who wants to sell their home leave their phone number in the Penwith Pirate.
Kernow
Posts: 248
Posted: 12.May 2005 - 00:51
Hello Diane, are you familier with Smugglers Bay?
Masterclass
Posts: 875
Posted: 12.May 2005 - 01:40
Because if you say less then people say more. It's a way of learning things.
Masterclass
Posts: 875
Posted: 12.May 2005 - 01:40
ACK! Caught! Damn you kernow, you are too clever for me!!!!
Kernow
Posts: 248
Posted: 12.May 2005 - 22:52
>>>>>>ACK! Caught! Damn you KERNOW, you are too clever for me!!!!
Surely with that logic you should stay stummmmmm.
Have you seen St Ia lately?
Diane Posts: 789
Posted: 13.May 2005 - 01:24
No, it doesn't ring a bell, but the name could be a popular name for many places, Bays, Pubs, B&Bs etc. tell me more.
Kernow
Posts: 248
Posted: 13.May 2005 - 12:17
Diane..........Upon investigation it turns out to be Smugglers Place, Runaway Island Queensland, and not NSW.
It sounds like a pleasant address.
A friend of a friend, sorry to think you might know everyplace in Oz.
Diane Posts: 789
Posted: 14.May 2005 - 01:35
We live on the far south coast of NSW, about 40 minutes from the NSW / Victorian border. Most of hubby's family, who live north of Sydney have no idea of this area. It amazes me sometimes, I know it's a huge country, but being family you'd think they would make some effort to have an idea of other parts of their state, that members of their family live. We lived in Melbourne for many years and only hubby's mum visited, the rest of the family think that Melbourne is the pits!! they've never been there. It's this Sydney V Melbourne rivalry thing.
