Topic: 'Facebook' dialogue...
TeamKernow
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Posted:
22.Oct 2007 - 22:11

'To ‘Facebook’
06.10.2007

KERNOW is the native language name for Cornwall which is NEXT to England
like Wales, and as distinct from England as Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
You will find many references confirming this fact at authoritative
locations on the internet.
Please therefore include 'KERNOW' as a geographical network option
within the UK.
Not to do so is offensive and its absence denies those who wish to
select this option the choice of doing so.

Please advise via e mail when this is done and that regional designation
becomes available.

From ‘Facebook’:
08.10.2007

Thanks for the suggestion. We will certainly keep it in mind as we
continue to improve the site.

Thanks for contacting Facebook

To ‘Facebook’:
10.10.2007

Thank you for your prompt reply.

As things stand, people of Cornwall who wish to select 'Kernow' or even 'Cornwall' as their regional designation are being denied that option.

You will find that MANY residents and natives of Kernow/Cornwall will choose that designation over ANY other.

Therefore it is in the best interests of 'Facebook' to make that regional designation available as soon as possible.

Thanks again for your responsiveness to this correspondence and we look forward to this option being made available soon so we can make our location known in terms that make sense.

From ‘Facebook’:
22.10.2007

Thanks again for your feedback. We hope to add this as an option in the
future.

Thanks for contacting Facebook.'



http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifFacebook ‘region suggestions’ page.http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif



edited by: TeamKernow, May 15, 2008 - 12:55 AM
Allister
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Posted:
22.Oct 2007 - 22:45

http://aber.fac...d=2352949356




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DEWGELL
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Posted:
22.Oct 2007 - 22:58

Quote
Facebook ‘region suggestions’ page.


Only problem is there's no UK or Britain in the 'countries' section.....only England!
TeamKernow
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Posted:
22.Oct 2007 - 22:59


Better let them kernow then,DEWGELL!

Their reply may be interesting...




edited by: TeamKernow, Oct 22, 2007 - 11:00 PM
DEWGELL
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Posted:
22.Oct 2007 - 23:10

QuoteBetter let them kernow then,DEWGELL!


Like it!




Oll a'n gwella!

DEWGELL (dhe'n gallos sawsnek)
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Ian

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Posted:
23.Oct 2007 - 00:07

Facebook is not the only social networking site that only allows the option of putting England, Scotland or Wales (ie and not Britain or UK). I've tried asking for a Cornwall or United Kingdom option on others but the response you get is the same as the one from Facebook without any actual action. We need more people to ask for the Cornwall option.
TeamKernow
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23.Oct 2007 - 00:47

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifFacebook ‘region suggestions’ page.http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

Any 'contact' portal pages for others,Ian?



edited by: TeamKernow, Oct 23, 2007 - 12:49 AM
myghall

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Posted:
13.May 2008 - 08:57

Put Cornwall on Facebook !!

We the undersigned believe that Cornwall should have its own Network Region on Facebook. Cornwall possesses one of the world's oldest natural borders, its own language and flag, and a population of 500,000 people. We therefore believe that the owners of Facebook should now recognise this by introducing the Cornwall Network region.

SIGN HERE !


http://campaign...bookcornwall

http://www.juli...liament.html



edited by: myghall, May 13, 2008 - 09:10 AM
shrdlu
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Posted:
13.May 2008 - 09:15

From Julia's website:

"A petition calling on Facebook to recognise Cornwall as a county will be presented to Parliament next week by Julia Goldsworthy MP."
TheElvenLord
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Posted:
13.May 2008 - 10:09

Why limit it to Facebook?

Make a petition that all Internet sites must recognise Cornwall as a seperate state.
I've had to say i'm in Wales many times.

lol
TEL

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Allister
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Posted:
13.May 2008 - 11:48

Quote"I believe it is my duty as a local MP to respond to their concerns and do my bit to raise support for the campaign."


I'm glad Julia has a sense of duty when it comes to the real issues of Cornwall icon_mad .




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piskey6
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Posted:
13.May 2008 - 12:02

Julia is demanding that Cornwall is DOWNGRADED from regional /national status to COUNTY!!!

This is despicable behaviour by an MP who is effectively be demanding that Cornwall is joined to Plymouth and Devon as a county.

Looney lib-dem Julia Goldsworthy is no Cornishwoman.

It shows that going to a private school for girls far away from the area she claims to represents has made her old-fashioned and out of touch with the modern nation of Cornwall.





edited by: piskey6, May 13, 2008 - 12:05 PM
Egloshal
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Posted:
13.May 2008 - 12:12

Well Elven... you are in 'West Wales' according to some old maps.

Radyo an Gernewegva
Ian

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Posted:
13.May 2008 - 12:22

QuoteI've had to say i'm in Wales many times


icon_smile I've had to do the same many times.
myghall

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Posted:
14.May 2008 - 23:56

Facebook Cornish Independence - To establish an independent Cornwall. 1. Cornwall is not part of England. 2. Cornish schools should teach the Cornish language and Cornish history. 3. Cornwall should be allowed to govern itself free from interference from Westminster.

http://apps.fac...causes/27717

http://s3.causes.com/photos/vn/Tn/UT/gv/ON/hi/Z6/vOH.jpg
TeamKernow
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16.May 2008 - 01:08

TeamKernow have added this comment http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifHEREhttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif:

'Julia hasn't got this right at all.

On her web site press release she appears to be demanding that the Duchy of Cornwall be defined by Facebook as a 'county' of England:

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifJulia Goldsworthy's 'county' contaminated web site press release.http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif


This does the Duchy of Cornwall's distinct and separate history and status no favours at all - being a Celtic Nation which,like Wales and Scotland, is NEXT to England.

Julia would benefit from a refresher course on matters Cornish and get her language in line with the findings of the parliamentary Kilbrandon Report.

Here is some related discussion:

http://www.corn...pic-2839.htm

Julia needs to amend her language to dispense with the word 'county' prior to making her parliamentary submission and to insist that 'Facebook' include Cornwall as a distinct countRy of the UK with the same 'Facebook' regional status as Wales,Scotland and England.'

Perhaps her little boat needs further helpful steerage:

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifHERE http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

And here:

info@juliagoldsworthy.org




edited by: TeamKernow, May 17, 2008 - 04:25 PM
myghall

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Posted:
16.May 2008 - 17:17

http://www.they...rthy#g1510.1
TheyWorkForYou.com

Julia Goldsworthy (Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Department for Communities and Local Government; Falmouth & Camborne, Liberal Democrat)

It is my pleasure to present a petition on behalf of many thousands of people living in Cornwall who would like the county to be recognised as a network region on Facebook. Despite the fact that Cornwall has a population of 500,000, the nearest geographical area represented on Facebook is the city of Plymouth in Devon. Some 14,500 people are members of the group and hundreds have added their names to the petition that they would like presented before Parliament. There are many respects in which people feel that Cornwall's unique needs and identity are subsumed in wider zones. I agree with my constituents that more needs to be done, by Facebook as well as the Government, to ensure that Cornwall's voice is properly heard.

The petition states: The Petition of residents of Cornwall, Declares that Cornwall should have its own Network Region on Facebook. Cornwall possesses one of the world's oldest natural borders, its own language and flag, and a population of 500,000 people. We therefore believe that the owners of Facebook should now recognise this by introducing the Cornwall Network region.

The Petitioner therefore requests that the House of Commons urges the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport to put pressure on the owners of Facebook to grant Cornwall network region status.

Please leave your comment here !! icon_biggrin

http://campaign...bookcornwall

http://s3.causes.com/photos/vn/Tn/UT/gv/ON/hi/Z6/vOH.jpg



edited by: myghall, May 16, 2008 - 05:21 PM
moonshine
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Posted:
16.May 2008 - 19:03

Since when has it been a politicians job to ask parliament to influence some business website system?

What is going on? Has the daft bat picked up the wrong thread or what!

Julia, we know you read this forum.

THE PETITION WE WANT TO SEE DISCUSSED IN PARLIAMENT IS NOT ABOUT FACEBOOK.

Clue = 50,000 signatures. Do you remember where they put it?
Fulub-le-Breton
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Posted:
17.May 2008 - 08:40

I was thinking the same thing moonshine. This just seems like a populist move to me to try and get the young internet vote.

If Julia had opposed the unitary authority in parliament and instead called for census option, assembly, duchy investigation, kernow domain name etc etc then we would have a proper job MP.

The Cornish Democrat
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piskey6
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Posted:
17.May 2008 - 14:11

I've spoken to a lot of people about Julia's little facebook stunt. They're not impressed. She just comes across as jumping on a bandwagon, but missing by yards and ending up in a ditch.

Most young people in Cornwall see it as a region, not a county, and definitely not a county of England.

No doubt JG is towing the Whalley lib-autocratic line of ensuring Cornwall is recognised as a slightly self important county. If she thinks young people are that stupid then she's more thick than previously thought.

Blabbing on about facebook in the houses of parliament is nothing more than a cynical attempt to show like she's somehow part of the youth. Sorry JG but grow up and do some proper parliamentary work for Cornwall, you left your private girls school over ten years ago so stop waving your hockey sticks and get a grip.



edited by: piskey6, May 17, 2008 - 02:14 PM
TheElvenLord
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Posted:
18.May 2008 - 19:57

QuoteMost young people in Cornwall see it as a region, not a county, and definitely not a county of England.



Im sorry to say this but that's bolloks mate.

I am CONTINUALLY teased, bullied, abused by people who think differently. Those who believe that Cornwall is a county of England. I say it's not.

There is no "young army" of Cornish nationalists coming through, there is few people coming anyway.

In a school of 750 - about 7 are Cornats.
The other 743 odd think "Cornwall = County = England"

THATS not MOST

Sorry, but that quote is bollocks - and i know better than most people on this forum.

TEL



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Allister
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Posted:
18.May 2008 - 20:12

QuoteThe other 743 odd think "Cornwall = County = England"


Have you asked all 743 of them?

From my experience of young Cornish people 15-25 I would say a good slice of them see Cornwall as a region whereas the others are usually willing to listen to honest argument and facts.





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TheElvenLord
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18.May 2008 - 20:36

QuoteHave you asked all 743 of them?


No I havent. But seeing as only about 7 actually stand up for Cornwall - and the rest of the school beats the hell out of us - I could say its around that figure.

Quotewhereas the others are usually willing to listen to honest argument and facts.


From my experience - thats not true.
They are usually ignorant, brainwashed and closed minded people that, unless you open their mind to something first THEN implant the information, they won't listen, and will probably say something along the lines of

" You Cornish Bas-tard, Cornwall is a COUNTY of ENGLAND, thats why we have a COUNTY COUNCIL and SH-IT"

For example of opening minds, a friend of mine got intrested in 9/11 conspiracy theories. I guided him through some subjects, and he agreed that the Governments were corrupt, a load of liars and stuff, then I told him about Cornwall -and how all those attributes apply.

Unfortunatly, it didnt convert him, but thats my example

TEL

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Allister
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18.May 2008 - 23:05

QuoteNo I havent. But seeing as only about 7 actually stand up for Cornwall - and the rest of the school beats the hell out of us - I could say its around that figure.


I would say that there is bound to be a larger, quieter, group of your school mates who agree with you.

Besides, school children bully each other. Any difference, any part of you that draws attention to yourself, no matter how small, will be exploited. I was a vegetarian in school and I was bullied for that. A few bullies stay the same through adulthood but most people grow up.

QuoteThey are usually ignorant, brainwashed and closed minded people that,


... that don't agree with you. Please don't be so arrogant as to label other people "brainwashed".

they won't listen, and will probably say something along the lines of

Quote" You Cornish Bas-tard, Cornwall is a COUNTY of ENGLAND, thats why we have a COUNTY COUNCIL and SH-IT"


Give them 5 years to mature, to go to college and uni and then approach them again.


QuoteFor example of opening minds, a friend of mine got intrested in 9/11 conspiracy theories.


Here we go, icon_rolleyes


QuoteUnfortunatly, it didnt convert him, but thats my example


"Converting" people is not the way to persuade people, we are not a religion.






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moonshine
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Posted:
18.May 2008 - 23:27

Quote"Converting" people is not the way to persuade people, we are not a religion.



That's right - send them to this website instead.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/
chris
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Posted:
18.May 2008 - 23:58

I'm almost finished building a Cornish Facebook/event website for someone. Will let you know when it is done. It would be nice to see it capitalise on the fact Facebook won't recognise Cornwall
Trevorpen

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Posted:
19.May 2008 - 00:58

It does recognise Cornwall - as an English county which it is - get a life!
Trevorpen

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19.May 2008 - 01:33

Looking at this again - I guess Cornwall is included with Plymouth as it uses areas of population and as Cornwall and Plymouth equate about 1 million, (500K each) that is the reason why.
Nosdan
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Posted:
19.May 2008 - 09:40

Thats stupid reason.

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(as maazed as a curlew)
moonshine
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19.May 2008 - 10:06

QuoteThats stupid reason.


What else would you expect from such a knob?
TheElvenLord
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Posted:
19.May 2008 - 17:16

I agree with Moonshine - Trevorpen, why don't you just leave.

TEL

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sharon
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Posted:
19.May 2008 - 17:55

TrevorpenIt does recognise Cornwall - as an English county which it is - get a life!


Its not right to say it is when so many things tell us it isn't.

How many counties do you know with their own language, Stannary Parliament, National anthems etc.

How many counties used to have kings.

Perhaps you haven't read all the evidence to prove Cornwall IS a unique Nation in its own right.

Here's some more

Oh and these books might help http://johnangarrack.co.uk/




TheElvenLord
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Posted:
20.May 2008 - 13:01

How many "counties" don't end in Shire (Ond English word for region or something)?

1 - KERNOW - there's no such things as Cornwallshire is there?

TEL

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