Topic: 'One Cornwall' - Can Of Worms / Can Of Beans / Crock of S*it ?
TeamKernow
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16.Jan 2008 - 19:21

The marketeers and privateers seem to have got
their money grubbing claws into Cornwall and are now,
in cahoots with the 'Unitary Authority' gang, bending
language,brain cells and perception to the task of
selling Cornwall as 'One Cornwall' - never mentioning
the long fought for Cornish Assembly:

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifLatest Publicly Funded Junket Here.http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif
(...there's a big public service assembly room in Truro...and it's free.)

'On 5 December 2007, Local Government Minister, John Healey, announced that Cornwall was one of five counties to be allowed to re-structure local government and set up a flagship new authority to promote prosperity, empower citizens and communities and improve public services.

The new Council for Cornwall will start on 1 April 2009 and will replace the current County and District Councils. Elections will take place later that year.
The radical programme of change is being led by a Joint Committee of County and District Councillors supported by officers from all seven principal councils with help and involvement from partner organisations (who they? - are they democratically accountable?).

Enquiries
Davinia Grist and Annie Moore
One Cornwall Communications and Marketing
Tel: 07773 342905 / 07770 538 448
Email: dgrist@cornwall.gov.uk / amoore1@cornwall.gov.uk '

Press Release Mysteries -

'The Chief Executive of Eden, Tim Smit will be giving an inspiring address ‘A Unified Cornwall’ at 12.15pm.'

Mystery 1: How can a speech be described as 'inspiring' before it has happened?
( http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifReality Chequehttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif )

Mystery 2: How low are Whalley & Co's sights set if a glorified greenhouse keeper with an anglo-centric list is invited to pontificate on Cornwall's political future?

Mystery 3: Warum verwendet Herr Smit dieses unpassende southwestregionspeak Wort http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif'County'http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif so häufig?

Mystery 4: Will we ever hear the Holy Grail words 'Cornish Assembly' again?




edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 05:19 PM
Jack33
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16.Jan 2008 - 19:58



This document does not refer to the same Mark Jones who was the Operations Manager at Eden and developer down at Carlyon bay does it?

I wondered what he was doing since he 'left' Eden

Jack33
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16.Jan 2008 - 20:36

QuoteMystery 1: How can a speech be described as 'inspiring' before it has happened?

Mystery 2: Will we ever hear the Holy Grail words 'Cornish Assembly' again?


1. icon_cool

2. It's down to us.
TeamKernow
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16.Jan 2008 - 22:58

Re:Mark Jones.

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifThishttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif may be of interest,Jack.

A highly agile creature...

Yet another http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifAnglo Colonist Hive http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif escapee.




edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 04:38 PM
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17.Jan 2008 - 00:01

Branded:

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/media/sectionbanner/n/2/onecornwall_secction_1.jpg
TeamKernow
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17.Jan 2008 - 00:20

Next:

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifHow to impose a toytown governmental structure on Cornwall without an electoral mandate.http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif.

Is Machiavelli actually dead?




edited by: TeamKernow, Jan 18, 2008 - 12:41 AM
TeamKernow
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Posted:
17.Jan 2008 - 00:29

Or just recently reincarnated as the hydra-headed Liberally Un-Democratic Dictatorial Cartel
currently betraying Cornwall right,left and centre?




edited by: TeamKernow, Jan 17, 2008 - 12:32 AM
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17.Jan 2008 - 00:41

One Kernow.
TeamKernow
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Posted:
17.Jan 2008 - 02:08

UA cancellation and replacement re'branding':

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Trans:
One Cornwall
The Cornish Assembly
One And All !

...a bit bolder and assertive than that pathetically limp Lib nonDem UA Anglo-Centric Logo Lite edition.

Decades of Cornwall fighting for a proper Cornish Assembly and Whalley & Co don't even put it on the negotiating table. Liberally unDemocrat Arselikin head boys all...








edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 03:13 PM
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17.Jan 2008 - 19:13

1: Its the English standard, it might be a complete load of trollop, but, they will describe it as Inspiring, its all propaganda.

2: As long as 50,000 people want the Cornish Assembly, you will hear the words, as long as there are Cornish Nationalists, you will hear those words, as long as there is a Race of Cornish, you will hear those words

(AAHH, I'M SOUNDING MORE LIKE SOME SNOBBISH PM EVERYDAY, THAT ONE LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING BLAIR WOULD SAY!AAHH (Thats not a compliment to it btw))

TEL

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TeamKernow
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17.Jan 2008 - 23:56

Of course, http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifThe Glorified Greenhouse Keeper / Plant Prison Wardenhttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif doesn't do 'Inspiring Addresses' for nothing - highlight €€€€ - 'Above €20,000' = £14,880.

That lil ol' UA Gravy Train is puffing at the station! Who else is busy clawing for a seat?

A talk by some of the long standing stalwart Cornishmen and Cornishwomen who have fought long and hard over many years for a proper Cornish Assembly only to be presented with this toytown UA would surely have been more fitting - and no doubt next to free!

This UA Gravy Train could do with cancellation and a brand new route worked out towards the proper destination of a proper Cornish Assembly.


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edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 03:14 PM
TeamKernow
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18.Jan 2008 - 00:33

Westminster morally owes it to Cornwall to undo the geo-political-territorial gerrymandered undemocratic annexation of Cornwall in 1889.

If it can apologise for slavery and the Irish Potato famine,and give the Chagos Islands back to the Chagosians,Wales back to the Welsh and Scotland back to the Scottish, then giving Cornwall back to the Cornish can be driven by a similar moral imperative...


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edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 03:14 PM
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18.Jan 2008 - 16:33

I agree, stop clinging on to Countries not your own, give them back to the natives, and English, that means vacate Britain and move back to Germany, where you can have a feel what it is like, a country repressed by another, that will teach you gits.

TEL

Everything is impossible until it is not.
TeamKernow
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18.Jan 2008 - 17:12

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifMore Bullsmit.http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

'I’d like the new council to make Cornwall the greenest place in the world.” - What?

1.While Smit, in cahoots with Malcolm Bell, trawls the world with 'international tourist destination' marketing for ill informed jetsh*t gawpers, further exacerbating the extreme environmental damage being caused by jetsh*t in general and New quay Airport in particular?

2.While Smit takes over £200,000 from S.I.T.A. and then says and does nothing to oppose their mad rubbish furnace plan for St Dennis?

3.While Smit continues to put more fossil fuelled traffic on the roads than any other theme park in Cornwall?

'We must give this a chance and protect each other from criticism' - hmmm....'We' ?

Smit has had no visible involvement in the long campaign for greater Cornish autonomy.It is questionable whether his status as chief executive of an allegedly charitable organisation http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifdisqualifieshttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif him from pontificating on, promoting or endorsing a particular political party's policies on Cornwall's political and constitutional arrangements.


PS No mention of a proper Cornish Assembly objective http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).giftherehttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif.


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edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 03:15 PM
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20.Jan 2008 - 23:09

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifMore S*it Here.http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

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edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 03:15 PM
Allister
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21.Jan 2008 - 00:08

QuoteI agree, stop clinging on to Countries not your own, give them back to the natives, and English, that means vacate Britain and move back to Germany, where you can have a feel what it is like, a country repressed by another, that will teach you gits.


I guess the Celts should all piss off back to Iberia as well, should they?






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TeamKernow
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21.Jan 2008 - 00:39

Do you think Cornwall would be best served by a so-called 'Unitary Authority' or a proper Cornish Assembly with devolved powers more akin to what Wales and Scotland currently have,Allister?
Allister
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21.Jan 2008 - 18:32

QuoteDo you think Cornwall would be best served by a so-called 'Unitary Authority' or a proper Cornish Assembly with devolved powers more akin to what Wales and Scotland currently have,Allister?


It depends on how one would judge being "best served". Will there really be that much difference between a Unitary Authority and an Assembly in terms of how it actually effects the day to day running of people's lives? Would we not essentially have the same people in charge of the U.A as we would with the Assembly?

I believe in devolved powers to Cornwall and I am still open to persuasion on which governmental institution will provide the greater.

I also believe that the only way to get what is required (true self governance) is to re-educate the Cornish population on the history of Cornwall and the Cornish national identity (which in my experience a lot of people are ashamed to admit that they are Cornish and convince themselves that they are English. These people need to be aided in coming out of the proverbial closet) and to convince them that self governance is actually in their interests.

Symbolically an Assembly would best serve the interests of the Cornish identity.



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21.Jan 2008 - 19:47

QuoteSymbolically an Assembly would best serve the interests of the Cornish identity.


Classic.
We just need a load of symbolic voters, then we could all live in the country formally know as Kernow.
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21.Jan 2008 - 22:06

QuoteWe just need a load of symbolic voters, then we could all live in the country formally know as Kernow.


Where did that come from?






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22.Jan 2008 - 02:15

That did seem pretty uncalled for. He made a valid statement.
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9.Feb 2008 - 22:20

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifAndrew George(St Ives) - 2005http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

'MOTION TO CORNWALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATS’ CONFERENCE
12TH NOVEMBER 2005

WE:

Recall a decision taken at the Cornwall Conference on 3rd November 2001 to “recommend that the Party campaigns for a devolved and democratically elected Regional Assembly for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly”; and that of the Party’s Federal Conference which, in March 2002, resolved that:
“the devolution settlement must be sufficiently flexible to achieve variable geography, variable timetable and variable powers to suit the differing needs of the regions, and to cater for the claims of areas with distinct identities which aspire to regional status”;

Deplore the failure of the Labour Government to understand that devolution is about “letting go” rather than “holding on” to power - a failure which has led to the strong rejection of regional government on their terms in the North East referendum last November; and further deplore the onward march of Government plans to remove and centralise local government powers for emergency control, strategic planning, police management and other essential services;

Recognise that the Liberal Democrats are acknowledged as the primary champions of devolution, as the pre-eminent Party in Cornwall and, in willingly accepting the burden of responsibility, are prepared to make full use of our strong position to campaign for and, in time, deliver an effective and more decentralised system of regional and local government;

Therefore support the Policy Paper prepared for this Conference which sets out the principles which underpin the campaign for decentralisation to a Cornish Regional Assembly which

1. acknowledge Cornwall’s special status and distinctiveness;

2. accept that any programme of devolution to a Cornish tier of strategic regional government should be a precursor to the resolution of how local government should then be structured;

3. recognise that any new regional and local structure should result in fewer and not more politicians;

4. resolve that any new Cornish Regional Authority should have a direct relationship with Government and Government departments without being required to communicate through bodies which represent a wider Government zone;

5. recognise that this would, however, not preclude or present an impediment to any decision by a Cornish authority to seek the benefits of the economies of scale to achieve cost-efficient delivery of services, either through established quangos or other partnership arrangements as and when decided; and
therefore recommend that the Party leads the campaign for a devolved and democratically elected Regional Assembly for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly within the clear context of the Party’s firm and unequivocal commitment to the promotion of racial and community tolerance as well as cultural diversity. '



http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifAndrew George(St Ives) - 2008http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

'Unitary Authority is defective

The MP for the West Cornwall constituency of St Ives, Andrew George, told the Government’s Local Government Minister, Rt. Hon John Healey MP, that the Parliamentary order to create a Single Unitary Authority for Cornwall was “technically, legally and politically defective” and that he would do as he had long promised and vote against the order at the first opportunity.


Mr George was speaking in a Committee debate held in the Commons yesterday (7th February 2008).

He told the Minister that he would have to do more to ensure that Cornwall could realise its ambitions to gain more power from Central Government and unelected quangos in the Government zone of the South West.

Mr George criticised the order for being legally defective – not having the power to cancel elections in Penwith this year, nor for other plans – technically defective, in that it failed to abolish Cornwall County Council along with District Council’s as previously promised – and politically defective - for failing to provide the structures to devolve powers to Cornwall, nor the internal structures to give local communities the ability to run their own affairs.

Mr George, who had voted against the Government’s Local Government Act – which creates the framework for unitary local government – at every stage last year, accused the Minister of producing a ‘minimalist’ regulation which failed to meet the ambitions of the people of Cornwall.

Mr George also poured scorn on the Conservative MP, Mark Prisk, from Hertford, who he accused of engaging in petty opportunism and putting Party tribalism above the interests of Cornwall.

Although the Minister indicated that he was prepared to back down on his plans to postpone Parish Council elections until 2013, Mr George did not feel that the Minister had gone far enough and that he would stick to his long held commitments, as he reiterated throughout the process, and vote against the order when he has an opportunity in Parliament in two weeks time.'




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edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 03:39 PM
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9.Feb 2008 - 22:52

Allister
QuoteWe just need a load of symbolic voters, then we could all live in the country formally know as Kernow.


Where did that come from?



A reflection of the number of people who voted for MK with a touch of Prince name-changing.

Does everyone in the Cornish movement vote for MK in general elections?
If not why?

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9.Feb 2008 - 23:25

How is it that Andrew George appears to have political Convergence uppermost in mind

while

David Whalley appears to have mis-spending monetary Convergence via the vehicle of the toytown yet to be ratified non-Unitary Authority on rubbish and mad ideas like a single waste furnace and daft regressive 50's think gross, unnecessary,loss-making and polluting expansion of New quay Airport uppermost in mind?

Total Divergence.

Members of the same political party?

Shurely shome mishtake...
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10.Feb 2008 - 00:51

Perhaps Colin Breed, Dan Rogerson, Julia Goldsworthy and Matthew Taylor , with the backing of Paul Tyler and Nick Clegg, will support Andrew George and put on a display of true 'One And All' national solidarity at Westminster to rescue Cornwall from the sketchy and ignorant navigation towards the rocks of everlasting subservience by the anglo-centric lickspittle toadying cabal currently steering Cornwall away from her destiny of coming alongside Scotland and Wales as long-denied more autonomous and self-determining territorial entities within the UK.

After all,the MPs have a bigger electoral mandate than the Cornwall Cabal Councillors and they all had the objective of achieving a proper Cornish Assembly in their most recent Liberal Democrat head office approved election manifestos...

And that toytown nonUnitary Authority proposal has no democratic electoral mandate at all...


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edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 13, 2008 - 03:41 PM
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10.Feb 2008 - 14:49

QuoteTotal Divergence.

Members of the same political party?

Shurely shome mishtake...


My thoughts exactly TK!

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10.Feb 2008 - 17:05

MK equals waste of time !!!!! Old, sandal wearing middle class prats !!!!!!!!!! who will soon disappear al2gether. When did they ever make the papers or TV. Most of them r lining their own pockets writing books about old cornwall.

''TOO MANY MK WORDS LIKE 'SANDALS' & 'BEARDS' EQUALS A KERNOW FOREVER UNDER THE ENGLISH AND THEIR IMPERIAL ESTABLISHMENT ! MK AS MUCH USE TO KERNOW AS A FART IN A SPACESUIT
= REPUBLICAN KERNOW NOW !''
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10.Feb 2008 - 17:51

You're a bit mad aren't you?

What really suprises me is that these people actually think they are helping.

Like I said are they helping towards Cornish unity and to promote the Cornish cause to the people of Kernow.....

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13.Mar 2008 - 15:37

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifListen Again to a 'Branding' of Cornwall Debatehttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif (for 6 days)
that took place today, Thursday March 13th 13.10-14.00,
on the BBClone Radio (anti)Cornwall Anglo-Imperialist Laurence Reed Show.


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13.Mar 2008 - 20:30

Introducing......

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifThe Toytown Unitary Authority Ganghttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif


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14.Mar 2008 - 01:45

TeamKernow wrote:
QuoteThe new Council for Cornwall will start on 1 April 2009 and will replace the current County and District Councils. Elections will take place later that year.

I suggest TeamKernow you and some of your like minded colleagues stand for this election, then if elected, you can put Cornwall to rights.

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14.Mar 2008 - 02:00

That's an excellent suggestion,cm.

If democracy prevailed.

However,you may have noticed that the Toytown nonUnitary Authority is the undemocratic outcome of an allegedly democratic system.

It doesn't bode well, does it.

Experience shows that making positive suggestions and penetrating criticisms from the sidelines can be rewardingly fruitful and most likely more widely beneficial than sitting in meetings run by the anti-democratic likes of Whalley & Mitchell & Co who fancy themselves more as unaccountable self-serving corporate animals than public servants and who, in cahoots with Westminster and its southwestregionspeak©2007TK quangos along with opportunistic corporate 'partners' with bug-eyed focus on maximum hyperprofiteering opportunities most often at the expense of Cornwall's environment and communities, have regularly been putting up two fingers to democratic precedures and processes within Cornwall to pursue agendas without mandates to the extreme disadvantage of the people of Cornwall.




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14.Mar 2008 - 02:02

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30.Apr 2008 - 09:16

Toytown Unitary Authority Dictatorial Imposition Local Government Dismantling Schedule
Bullsmit Updates at the Two Cornwalls 'OneCornwall' Naff 'Branding' Web Site:

http://www.onec...icleid=42436

Of course the whole exercise, just like the externally imposed, invalid and belated LondonFantasy 1889 incorporation of Cornwall within the 'English Counties', discussed HERE, via the instrument of the Local Government Act of 1888 may, in fact, be ultra vires.

Recently Westminster restored the rights of the Chagos Islanders.
The return of Cornwall to the Cornish is also long overdue.

This:

http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/media/sectionbanner/n/2/onecornwall_secction_1.jpg
is a LibDemLite centrist genuflecting beating about the bush waste of time and resources tangential to Cornwall's needs and destiny.

This:

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is more like the necessary and inevitable real thing.

Best to cut to the chase.




edited by: TeamKernow, Apr 30, 2008 - 11:36 AM
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30.Apr 2008 - 10:57

[quote=moonshine]
Quote

2. It's down to us.


You mean it's going to made from breeze blocks and have an old window from an Austin 1100 and a flat roof that will need replacing after 5 years because of dodgy felt?





edited by: Lovelorn, Apr 30, 2008 - 11:00 AM
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30.Apr 2008 - 11:28

The proposed 'community networks' for the One Cornwall council will be made up of unelected 'community representatives.'

Giving power to a bunch of busy bodies who don't need popular support will be an obstacle for the elected parish /town councils and possibly the new one cornwall council.

Also, they want to build a completely new building for the new council, while David Whalley wants to see less councillors - so more money will go on salaried officers, less democracy, more developments pushed through by officers and QUANGOs.

Elections in 2009 need as many as possible to kick out the lib dems and get some order in place for Cornwall.
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30.Apr 2008 - 14:34

Is that a Camborne bag lady on the left? And is the fifth from the left one of the tourists who like to fall off our cliffs?
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26.Jun 2008 - 11:18

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifClichéd 'Corporate' Claptrap (CCC) 'Branding' Ventures (cont.)http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif