Topic: Cornwall PRIDE date 2008
pinkpasty
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29.Feb 2008 - 09:01

Cornwall PRIDE 2008:- To flounce down the streets of Truro

http://i2.gaywatch.com/15984357848390998.jpg

Last year there was a very successful Cornwall 'GAY' PRIDE Beach Day held at Hayle. This was however marred by Cornwall police attitudes & practises towards some gay persons, leading to the arrest and detention of one of the Gay PRIDE steering group for 16hrs. They were later released without charge and the case has been finalised No Further Action.

However, the 2007 Cornwall GAY PRIDE steering group disbanded after the event, directly out of concerns & fears of yet further Cornwall police anti-gay behaviour.

Now an entirely NEW Cornwall PRIDE group has formed in Truro, but have choosen NOT to call themselves a 'GAY' Pride event. Based at BarQdos, the lgbt bar in New Bridge Street, Truro.
(See national press item)
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-6980.html

(See 'thisiscornwall' item)
http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=144143&command=displayContent&sourceNode=144131&contentPK=20003376&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch

The theme is said to be theatrical, so that should bring out some panto drag queens onto the streets of Truro, lol. However, calling it Cornwall PRIDE is already appearing to ruffle some Cornish feathers, who feel that St.Pirans Day is the proper 'Cornwall PRIDE' day.

For contact details for Cornwall PRIDE:-
http://www.gaycornwall.com/html/cornwall_pride.html

Last years organisers of the Cornwall 'GAY' LGBT PRIDE Beach Day have no plans to organise a Beach Day this year because of continuing genuine concerns about Cornwall police homophobia & hostility towards LGBT persons.

"Cornwall police are known in the gay community to have behaved with prejudice & hostility towards some gay persons in recent years. This has made us reconsider whether gay people are actually safe in Cornwall" said a former member of the 2007 Gay PRIDE steering group.

Cornwall Police & Funny gay porn?
http://pinkpasty.blogspot.com/2008/02/cornwall-police-misconduct-funny-gay.html

Cornwall Police to give lessons on public toilet sex?
http://pinkpasty.blogspot.com/2008/02/gay-sex-cruising-cottage-website-bans.html

Cornwall Police attitudes to homophobic "HATE CRIME"
http://pinkpasty.blogspot.com/2008/02/cyber-bullying-cornwall-brightonthe.html

The question is...should it have been called 'Gay' PRIDE or 'Cornwall' PRIDE?

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29.Feb 2008 - 22:28

the birdcage was brill....I know you r telling us all the truth but it is hard to beleive in the 21ST century. I like to read about you om the Cornwall Police Watch blog. Honest the plod in kernow are bloody hopeless. No wander so many of us hate the buggers

''TOO MANY MK WORDS LIKE 'SANDALS' & 'BEARDS' EQUALS A KERNOW FOREVER UNDER THE ENGLISH AND THEIR IMPERIAL ESTABLISHMENT ! MK AS MUCH USE TO KERNOW AS A FART IN A SPACESUIT
= REPUBLICAN KERNOW NOW !''
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29.Feb 2008 - 22:31

PS why dont the gay community celebrate St pirans day as well - that would ruffle the plod's feathers !!!!!

''TOO MANY MK WORDS LIKE 'SANDALS' & 'BEARDS' EQUALS A KERNOW FOREVER UNDER THE ENGLISH AND THEIR IMPERIAL ESTABLISHMENT ! MK AS MUCH USE TO KERNOW AS A FART IN A SPACESUIT
= REPUBLICAN KERNOW NOW !''
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29.Feb 2008 - 22:36

It makes me wonder how the mind can wander to misspell wonder as a wander not a wunder.
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Posted:
29.Feb 2008 - 23:09

nor a wanda...
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29.Feb 2008 - 23:16

Perhaps http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifBarry Frosthttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif would be your advocate
and parade leading http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifcheerleaderhttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif,pinkpasty?




edited by: TeamKernow, Mar 01, 2008 - 12:03 PM
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Posted:
29.Feb 2008 - 23:46

The magic wanda that spells?
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1.Mar 2008 - 02:34

with a sprinkling of...

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1.Mar 2008 - 09:33

I think is a bloody exellent idea as long as it a Cornish Gay Pride day and not just another globalised surf blue bar Engurlund marketing operation.

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1.Mar 2008 - 11:14

Well for a start de-anglicise the word "Gay Pride" pick a Cornish term, 'Jorna Gwynnrudh" or'
Jorna Spryrs' now if only the Bards would wear oufits like that at the Gorsedd.!

The blog The Great Goky Blog
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1.Mar 2008 - 12:34

gokyWell for a start de-anglicise the word "Gay Pride" pick a Cornish term, 'Jorna Gwynnrudh" or'
Jorna Spryrs' now if only the Bards would wear oufits like that at the Gorsedd.!


Well hells teeth I agree with Goky! icon_eek

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1.Mar 2008 - 12:41

Hope the Celtic League gets involved!

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Posted:
2.Mar 2008 - 11:39

I think it should be called Gay Pride or the Cornish equivalent or both.
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2.Mar 2008 - 11:43

Shouldn't be a gay pride in Cornwall. There's no heterosexual pride, so why are gays and lesbians got to shout about it?
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2.Mar 2008 - 11:55

QuoteThere's no heterosexual pride


You should try Falmouths main street on Friday or Saturday night for an open and honest display of heterosexual pride.

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Posted:
2.Mar 2008 - 17:37

This sort of thing just reinforces segre'gay'tion.
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3.Mar 2008 - 10:07

Ah sod, it lets have Cornish Homophobic Pride Day then everyone can jump on the bandwagon!!

Assumption, is the Mother of all Cockups!

Better to have it and not need it, than to need it, and not have it!
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4.Mar 2008 - 17:35

CELTIC LEAGUE - PRESS INFORMATION

DEVONWALL POLICE PRESSED ON ATTITUDES TO CIVIL LIBERTY AND GAY PRIDE

The Assistant General Secretary (AGS) of the League has written to the Chief Constable of Devon and Cornwall Police, Stephen Otter, in his role as Kernow Branch Secretary to seek his views on issues relating to Cornwall and elsewhere.

Mike Chappell is keen to hear the Chief Constables views about plans to extend the powers of the police to take genetic samples of anyone arrested or suspected of any crime and also his views on plans to hold a Gay Pride march in Truro, Cornwall in August 2008.

The first issue relates to a call made by the Association of Chief Police Officers for a new debate on the issue of extending the current DNA database to include all people arrested, whether they are later charged with an offence or not. This would substantially increase the current database of genetic records held of more than 4.5million people – including 560,000 people who have never been convicted of any offence.

In Scotland last month Ministers rejected calls by Association of Chief Police Officers of Scotland (ACPOS) to fall in line with police forces in England and Wales by collecting forensic samples of anyone arrested. However, Justice Minister Kenny MacAskill has ruled this out, claiming it would be an infringement of the public's human rights. Currently in Scotland if anyone has their DNA taken by the police, it is destroyed if they are not convicted.

The second issue raised by the AGS in his letter raises the question of how Mr Otter would respond to the proposed Gay Parade to take place in Cornwall in view of the additional role he will take up in April 2008, as Spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers, on matters to include, among others, 'sexual orientation'.

In the past Devon and Cornwall Constabulary has been accused of institutionalised homophobia by leading members of Cornwall's gay community. Accusations of police homophobia in Cornwall have been so persistent and far reaching that now a European television company, who are making an international documentary on homophobia, have approached Cornish activists to know more. It has been reported to the League that the recommendation for a 'British' feature on homophobia should be run in Cornwall by acclaimed Human Rights Campaigner, Peter Tatchell.

The full text of the AGS's letter can be found below:

"Mr. Stephen Otter

Chief Constable

Devon and Cornwall Constabulary
Middlemoor HQ
Exeter
EX2 7HQ

4th March, 2008

Dear Chief Constable

DNA Database and Gay Pride Rally

I am writing to you as Assistant General Secretary and Kernow Branch Secretary of the Celtic League in order to ascertain your views on two unrelated topics that are of interest to members of our Branch and indeed to members in the other Branches of our organisation.

The first regards plans to extend the powers of the police to take genetic samples of anyone arrested or suspected of any crime. We are aware that Chief Constable Tony Lake, who speaks for the Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO)on DNA is in favour of such plans and has even spoken in favour of compiling a DNA database of everyone charged with an offence or not.

Being a member of the ACPO, we would therefore like to know what your views are on this subject.


The second enquiry is in regard to the announcement made last week that a Gay Pride march will be taking place in Truro, Cornwall in August 2008. It has been reported to the Branch that organisers of this march, Cornwall Gay Pride, are concerned about the reaction of Devon and Cornwall police towards the organisers of the event and the marchers themselves.

We are aware that in 2007 the previous Cornwall Gay Pride Steering Group decided to disband as a result of personal experience of homophobic behaviour towards them on the part of Devon and Cornwall police officers. We are also aware that from April 2008, you will take up the position of Head of the Race and Diversity Business area and that your new portfolio will cover 'sexual orientation'.

We would therefore be interested to know what your views are on the existence of Cornwall Gay Pride and what you intend to do as Head of the Race and Diversity Business area and the Chief Constable of Devon and Cornwall Police to improve relations between the Constabulary and Cornwall's gay community. Also we would like to know your own views on the planned Gay pride march itself.

Many thanks in advance.

Yours faithfully

Michael J. Chappell"

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Posted:
4.Mar 2008 - 17:37

I can see it now.

YMCA with Cornish Miners/Fishermen/Farmers

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Posted:
5.Mar 2008 - 12:14

I think the NEW PRIDE group have something more like this in mind with their 'theatrical theme'!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayZGZ2NSxs4

...and if you think promoting homophobia & hate crime does not matter watch these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVjVRGTXr_A

That boy was only 15 when murdered for being gay last month!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw9zJq0QGl0

...and the above were all killed as a result of attitudes like those spouted by some who have even appeared on this site!

That is why we have 'GAY' pride events all over the world!

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5.Mar 2008 - 12:23

Then of course In Cornwall we have our own "HATE CRIMES" against gay people carried out by Cornwall police officers...still un-investigated.

...but the Cornish Authorities choose to ignore that!

However, for the safety of gay/bi persons in Cornwall those Cornwall police officers names can be found on our Gay Cornwall LGBT News site.

http://www.pinkpasty.blogspot.com

Of course Lib Dem Colin Breed, Cornish Mp, opposed new laws to protect gay people from 'Hate Crime'.

...and thats why we need to have an open out loud & proud 'Gay' Pride in Cornwall.

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5.Mar 2008 - 12:46

Quote...and the above were all killed as a result of attitudes like those spouted by some who have even appeared on this site!

That is why we have 'GAY' pride events all over the world!


Hear hear!

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11.Mar 2008 - 12:15

Well, it takes the "Spainish" to investigate HOMOPHOBIC Cornwall police & Homophobic Cornwall County Council Social Services and their abuse of gay youth in Cornwall.

http://www.queerwest.co.uk/story8.html

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11.Mar 2008 - 12:19

Sorry here's the link

http://www.queerwest.co.uk/story8.html

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16.Mar 2008 - 18:05

Gay in Cornwall (PRIDE): http://www.gay-...nwall.co.uk/

Must say though that the website looks awful and not at all very Cornish. It looks more like an advert for Rainbow made by kids.



edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, Mar 16, 2008 - 07:07 PM

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17.Mar 2008 - 21:13

Perhaps you are unaware Flub.

The 'Rainbow' flag or 'Freedom' Flag is the International flag of sexual diversity...hence all the Rainbow Colours...its a bit bigger concept than just that of provincial Cornwall, its recognised by lgbt people in just about every free democratic country in the world!

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19.Mar 2008 - 12:37

No I knew that; the rainbow flag is also the flag of various minority peoples around the world for example the Quechua indigenous people in South America.

It's not the rainbow flag it's rather how it's used and the general look of the website.

This is also a website for pride in Cornwall so why not apply a little localism and represent the Cornish gay community.

Why not promote a little regional identity, after all who wants a bland homogenised/globalised world where we are all the same everywhere?

That'd be very boring wouldn't it?

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20.Mar 2008 - 17:15

Probably because pink pasty......

isn't cornish!!!!

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2.Aug 2008 - 12:33

Your right, I'm not Cornish.

But my contribution to civil liberties, gay equality & HIV/AIDS care, treatment & prevention in Cornwall for the past two decades is a matter of record.

See Here:-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gaywarrior

The wiki was written by a dear friend

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4.Aug 2008 - 21:56

you dont have anything to do with the Gay Pride anyway this year!!!
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8.Aug 2008 - 10:39

Your right gay men, gay women & gay youth equality campaigners are NOT WELCOME at this Cornwall pride event.

It has turned into a platform of promotion for those organisations like the Cornwall police & Cornwall County Council which have traditionally & continue to abuse gay people in Cornwall.

Although gay equality campaigners are not welcome at the Cornwall pride? event, I have personally been invited to four real 'Gay' pride events next year.

Plus, Peter Midwood (the former 15yr old gay youth who lived homeless on the streets of Helston in 2005, abused & ignored by the Cornish authorities) have been invited as a guest to the 'City of Cornwall' Gay Pride event in Ontario, Canada next year.

Just Like Tony Leamon, the Cornish campaigner who recieved more support from Cornish & Celtic persons outside of Cornwall, so too do I enjoy support from informed gay persons outside of Cornwall.

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8.Aug 2008 - 10:47

Fulub-le-BretonI can see it now.

YMCA with Cornish Miners/Fishermen/Farmers


Don't forget your open-crotched tight spandex pants in pink with a strategically placed flag of St Piran.

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8.Aug 2008 - 10:47

...and just for the record, here is a quote from Tim Teeman, a former editor of the National Pink Paper, circulation 50,000 copies per week (now owned by Gay Times, Milliveres). Tim wrote of Lidbury in 1997 as:-

“Malcolm is more than just an effective campaigner. He is also an extremely brave and forthright one. He is the most public face of homosexuality in the region. This is a tough position for anyone to hold. Not only must he face the prejudice of narrow minded heterosexuals, he must also combat fear and ignorance on the part of gays in Cornwall, who would prefer certain matters to remain private and not discussed.”

Very little has changed

For the full Pink Paper wiki:-

http://wiki.pinkpaper.com/LGBT%20Activist.ashx


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8.Aug 2008 - 12:24

pinkpastyYour right gay men, gay women & gay youth equality campaigners are NOT WELCOME at this Cornwall pride event.

Nah, the reason why you are not welcome is because you are undemocratic, that was confirmed to me.

It has turned into a platform of promotion for those organisations like the Cornwall police & Cornwall County Council which have traditionally & continue to abuse gay people in Cornwall.

Show evidence?

Although gay equality campaigners are not welcome at the Cornwall pride? event, I have personally been invited to four real 'Gay' pride events next year.

Plus, Peter Midwood (the former 15yr old gay youth who lived homeless on the streets of Helston in 2005, abused & ignored by the Cornish authorities) have been invited as a guest to the 'City of Cornwall' Gay Pride event in Ontario, Canada next year.

Just Like Tony Leamon, the Cornish campaigner who recieved more support from Cornish & Celtic persons outside of Cornwall, so too do I enjoy support from informed gay persons outside of Cornwall.


Yeah, just cos the police couldnt understand he was making a terrorist video for a joke
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8.Aug 2008 - 12:25

The point is clear. ,
~You are not welcome at this years pride event
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8.Aug 2008 - 12:30

Why?
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8.Aug 2008 - 14:30

Ask the organiser, not me
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8.Aug 2008 - 14:52

ILH - Give an explanation or f*ck off!
F*cking troll!

I don't pretend to know half of what PinkPasty does for Gay rights and persocution against gay people by police but it sure as hell rides a parallel path to what we, as nationalists have to put up with and fight.



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9.Aug 2008 - 09:07

Dont ask me, i am not the organiser of gay pride.

What are you fighting for?
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10.Aug 2008 - 02:12

Why did you you make this comment then?

The point is clear. ,
~You are not welcome at this years pride event
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10.Aug 2008 - 09:20

Because that is what i was told by the organiser
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10.Aug 2008 - 09:41

Your video and website is shite, You are slagging off Helston a place you do not even live in, and Helston School, a school i went to (and was 'out' in).
And if you were in Flora Day in 2006, you should know it was one of the most violent flora days EVER and the police were streched to the limit with so many assaults etc

and, admitteldy, i have had little contact with Magnus Scott, but i found him a nice man and not homophobic at all.

Why was Peter expelled from helston school? for trauncy? Explain more?

And, i am so pleased you wont be at Cornwall pride in Truro, from what i heard, you wont be welcome anyway icon_smile
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10.Aug 2008 - 10:48

Dear 'ilovehelston' or should I say 'Peter Merrick'?

a) Helston IS the nearest town to which I live.

b) I am familiar with quite a number of 'gay' former students of Helston school, ALL of whom have expressed experience of homophobia (including admission by yourself in a previous posting).

c) I was at Helston Flora 2006 and physically assaulted when protecting another with my body, an unconcious person who had been bottled over the head and who his assailants were trying to 'STAMP' on his head!

The assailant who assaulted me WAS eventually prosecuted, but the reluctance of the police to act on what was initially reported as a homophobic incident was JUST as abusive as the assault itself.

d) I do not care whether a copper is nice. I just want him/her to carry out their 'Duty' with honesty, integrity, impartiality & transparency of conduct (4x parts of the police code of conduct). I also do not expect a copper to make homophobic assumptions based on prejudicial sterotype 'gay hater' portrayals of gay persons lives & lifestyles, regretably also a common place negative experiences of Cornwall police attitudes & practises against gay persons.

Regretably, I have personal experience in the last four years of VERY LITTLE compliance with these police codes of conduct from the vast MAJORITY of Cornwall police officers encountered

e) 'If' you had watched one of the videos co-created by Peter Midwood himself:-

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=itpwloMfpco

you would be aware that, his friends have given verbal statements as to the bruises he came to school with, the catalogue of stepfathers he lived with, the prior (ineffectual) involvement of Cornwall Social Services within the family dynamics.

It is not a gaint leap of intelect to work out if a child is suffering misery, emotional & alleged violent abuse at home & relentless bullying (some overtly homophobic) in the the school environment (confirmed by other students & some parents) you as a child, for self survival, are going to avoid that ABUSIVE environment, called HELSTON SCHOOL!

When abusers ARE the adults in authority like teachers, coppers & parents...they IGNORE the FACT he was living rough on the streets of Helston...as A CHILD!!! who does a child turn too???

Then he gets further ABUSE from people like 'YOU' because he 'dare' to tell his experience of how it is

...The fact of his experience that it is GROSSLY HOMOPHOBIC within the autrhorities of Cornwall.

f) ...and finally you celebrate that myself (and other LGBT) equality campaigners (some of whom were active before you were born)...are NOT WELCOME at a 'psuedo' pride event at which gay men, gay women & gay youth camaigners are not welcome, but the Chief Constable of Devon & Cornwall Constabulary, a police force I KNOW by experience harbours deeply homophobic attitudes & practises protected within its rank.(a Chief Constable who has himself previously accussed of racisim by one of his own senior commanders)

see here:- http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article1448136.ece

a Chief Constable is given precedent to spread a 'false' message regarding policing attitudes in Cornwall...is just down right 'bleedy' insulting to those persons who KNOW by bitter experience the Cornwall police REMAIN in 2008, as an organisation, a bastion of homophobia!

As to my videos, these have now been viewed over half a million times (600,000+ in total at the last check).

Why some people feel so threatened by the expressed truth of 'gay' personal experience of the continuing problem of endemic homophobia within the institutions of Cornwall and try to bury that truth...I do not understand...then to label me 'undemocratic'?

I KNOW what I have contributed in the lasdt two decades to the advancement of gay equality in Law, (ignored by Cornwall police & judiciary)equal rights, HIV/AIDS, care,. treatment & prevention, its a matter of record:-
http://wiki.pinkpaper.com/LGBT%20Activist.ashx

Apart from attacking those gay men, women & youth who DO & have spoken 'out' (often at great personal risk) against social injustice & homophobic motivated hate crime

...what prey tell, 'ilovehelston' have you EVER done to further gay equality or social justice in Cornwall?




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10.Aug 2008 - 11:07

ilovehelston is my name on here

a) Helston IS the nearest town to which I live.

Yeah,. but you dont live here, do you?

b) I am familiar with quite a number of 'gay' former students of Helston school, ALL of whom have expressed experience of homophobia (including admission by yourself in a previous posting).

Show that link to me?
Really, which ones are they? You know, seeing as they are dissing the school


c) I was at Helston Flora 2006 and physically assaulted when protecting another with my body, an unconcious person who had been bottled over the head and who his assailants were trying to 'STAMP' on his head!

You should know that that year was a violent one


The assailant who assaulted me WAS eventually prosecuted, but the reluctance of the police to act on what was initially reported as a homophobic incident was JUST as abusive as the assault itself.

Was it a homophobic incident?



d) I do not care whether a copper is nice. I just want him/her to carry out their 'Duty' with honesty, integrity, impartiality & transparency of conduct (4x parts of the police code of conduct). I also do not expect a copper to make homophobic assumptions based on prejudicial sterotype 'gay hater' portrayals of gay persons lives & lifestyles, regretably also a common place negative experiences of Cornwall police attitudes & practises against gay persons.

What did the police actually say to you that could be construed as homophobic?


Regretably, I have personal experience in the last four years of VERY LITTLE compliance with these police codes of conduct from the vast MAJORITY of Cornwall police officers encountered

e) 'If' you had watched one of the videos co-created by Peter Midwood himself:-

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=itpwloMfpco

you would be aware that, his friends have given verbal statements as to the bruises he came to school with,

Not in the video

the catalogue of stepfathers he lived with,

Not in the video

the prior (ineffectual) involvement of Cornwall Social Services within the family dynamics.

Not shown in the video


It is not a gaint leap of intelect to work out if a child is suffering misery, emotional & alleged violent abuse at home & relentless bullying (some overtly homophobic) in the the school environment (confirmed by other students & some parents) you as a child, for self survival, are going to avoid that ABUSIVE environment, called HELSTON SCHOOL!



When abusers ARE the adults in authority like teachers, coppers & parents...they IGNORE the FACT he was living rough on the streets of Helston...as A CHILD!!! who does a child turn too???

Then he gets further ABUSE from people like 'YOU' because he 'dare' to tell his experience of how it is

I dont notice him speaking in the video

...The fact of his experience that it is GROSSLY HOMOPHOBIC within the autrhorities of Cornwall.

f) ...and finally you celebrate that myself (and other LGBT) equality campaigners (some of whom were active before you were born)...are NOT WELCOME at a 'psuedo' pride event at which gay men, gay women & gay youth camaigners are not welcome,

Have you specifically been told that you are not welcome by Christian?

but the Chief Constable of Devon & Cornwall Constabulary, a police force I KNOW by experience harbours deeply homophobic attitudes & practises protected within its rank.(a Chief Constable who has himself previously accussed of racisim by one of his own senior commanders)

see here:- http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/article1448136.ece

a Chief Constable is given precedent to spread a 'false' message regarding policing attitudes in Cornwall...is just down right 'bleedy' insulting to those persons who KNOW by bitter experience the Cornwall police REMAIN in 2008, as an organisation, a bastion of homophobia!

As to my videos, these have now been viewed over half a million times (600,000+ in total at the last check).

Why some people feel so threatened by the expressed truth of 'gay' personal experience of the continuing problem of endemic homophobia within the institutions of Cornwall and try to bury that truth...I do not understand...then to label me 'undemocratic'?

I KNOW what I have contributed in the lasdt two decades to the advancement of gay equality in Law, (ignored by Cornwall police & judiciary)equal rights, HIV/AIDS, care,. treatment & prevention, its a matter of record:-


Apart from attacking those gay men, women & youth who DO & have spoken 'out' (often at great personal risk) against social injustice & homophobic motivated hate crime

...what prey tell, 'ilovehelston' have you EVER done to further gay equality or social justice in Cornwall?



I admit nothing, but why did Christian ban you from gay pride?
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Quote...what prey tell, 'ilovehelston' have you EVER done to further gay equality or social justice in Cornwall?

In case it escapes your memory PP, Ilovefarage is a leading advocate of UKIP fascism in Cornwall and I thought we ALL had learnt the lessons of history!

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10.Aug 2008 - 11:10

There is nothing fascist about UKIP
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10.Aug 2008 - 12:04

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10.Aug 2008 - 12:20

Peter Merrick

a) Good grief, I live four miles from Helston. In your thinking, does that mean every pupil who attends Helston School, but does not live within the town boundary, not qualify to have an awareness of the town?

b) There is NO WAY given your habit of effectively stalking gay persons on social websites & the overt & unwelcome advances you previously made upon friends of mine at the beach day (2007), that I would provide you with names of 'gay' former pupils of Helston school. Sufice to say I can name at least eight gay/bi former students and (chuckle) they would not thank me for the introduction (or in some cases re-introduction, as you ARE already known by reputation, to them), lol.

c) Yes, 2006 Flora Day WAS violent. Three seperate homophobic incidents observed that evening alone. The esculated problem was that police ignored the 'True Vision' (which they are signed up too as a force)statement & Crown Prosecution policy on reported 'homophobic incidents'. If you have not read either of these definitions of what constitutes a 'homophobic incident', I suggest you do.

d). The other person assaulted stated to police (whilst still lying bleeding on the ground), that it was a homophobic assault. The expression 'F*cking Queer' had been used during the assault.

I personally identified both the drunken assailants to police, who then let them leave the scene in a taxi. I then drove the other victim to West Cornwall hospital for x-rays & stiches.

The police officer responce & stated, and I quote [i]"Shut up, be quiet, you do not want to say that" [/i]

The following day when I voluntarily went to give a written statement at Helston police station, the same officer at first REFUSED to take my statement, then threatened if I continued to press for the assault to be investigated he would prosecute the other victim for 'affray'. I do not give into bullies easily, especially when they are homophobic police bullies!

There were numerous gay/bi witnesses to the assault, (most of whom I can still name and identify) most of whom felt to intimidated by the hostile reaction of the Cornwall police to give a witness statement.

e) These are just 'some' of the reasons I KNOW Cornwall police to be homophobic.

• “I am personally aware as a witness to a DC police officer who committed perjury in a Civil Crown Court against a gay person.
• The same police officer also said ‘anal sex was always an act of sexual violence’ in a court of law against a gay person, which was accepted by the court.(The same judge condemned gay equality and HIV/AIDS awareness campaigning as ‘Evangelical Proselytising’, the same judge also implied age of equal consent at 16 came into effect in 2004…when in fact it was 2001).
• A local community police officer who told a gay victim of a brutal serious violent assault in Helston, Cornwall, to ‘shut up, be quiet, you don’t want to say that’, when the victim informed the police officer he thought it was a homophobic assault.
• The same police officer then threatened to charge with affray, a gay victim (hospitalised) after violent assault, if complaint of assault made by either two LGBT victims.
• I know a police Sergeant who obstructed information to a gay person how to make a formal complaint against police.
• Another police Sergeant, now an Inspector, tried to obstruct disclosure by a gay person of defence statements to police prosecution.
• Another police officer lied about a signature in a pocket book to try to cover up police misconduct against a gay person.
• Yet another police officer who lied and failed to deliver ALL legally entitled court paperwork to a gay victim of police homophobia.
• A police Inspector who stated in a letter spreading rumours a gay person had HIV/AIDS (when they did not have HIV/AIDS) was not harassment.
• The same Inspector stated in a letter screaming of homophobic abuse in the streets was not harassment of a gay person.
• A Detective Constable who participated in attempted blackmail of a homeless vagrant 15yr old gay youth living rough on the streets of Helston, this recorded on tape.
• Then there were two police officers carried out a partial strip search on a gay youth in a public place and failed to follow home office guidelines on “stop and search”. The youth a witness in another case AGAINST police officers for misconduct. The same police rude to an elderly pensioner witness in defence of the gay youth. The youth’s complaints ignored by police of misconduct.
• A Detective Constable who tried to mislead a court of law as to ownership of a property and who acted upon entirely homophobic allegations against a gay person.
• A Detective Constable who threatened a seized computer (later returned) would be wiped of information. The same police officer failed to return seized property to a gay person within an acceptable time line resulting in destruction of two gay owned businesses. The same police officer refused a gay person access to an LGBT diversity officer.
• A Detective Constable failed to finalise a case, leaving a gay victim of homophobic abuse on the police computer as a suspect.
• Custody officers failed to enable a gay person held in custody any food for in excess of 7 hours and tried to bully a gay person when their property went missing whilst detained by the police.
• A police Inspector lied about identity of two police officers who made un-logged visit to a gay person’s home. This combination of police abuses and violations subsequently drove a gay person to attempt suicide.

...and there is a great deal more than this short list.

f) Numerous emails from myself and other lgbt activists & campaigners remain unreplied too by the pride organisers, plus a viscious personal attack by one of the promoters upon myself and refusal to engage in dialogue with those lgbt persons with actual experience of institutional homophobia from the VERY organisations (like police & Cornwall County Council), being embraced, at the exclusiuon of lgbt persons by the organisers.

Peter Midwood does not speak, neither do I on the video, we have no sound recording facility, but his contribution is evident & clear, plus it is pretty difficult to get six box files of correspondence, statements & witness evidence into a 3-4min video.

Although, I have given two & a half hours of verbal recorded witness statement to the Criminal Policy Research department of Kings College University (regarding Cornwall police homophobia), who are conducting investigation into the effectiveness of the Independent Police Complaints commission on behalf of the Government National Audit office.

...and finally, err, what did you say 'YOU' had contributed to (lgbt) gay equality, civil rights advancement & or HIV/AIDS treatment, care & prevention in Cornwall

...I think I must have missed it in your last statement.

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10.Aug 2008 - 13:10

What is so fascist about UKIP
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10.Aug 2008 - 13:16

ilovehelstonWhat is so fascist about UKIP


The people it attracts.

For a better look at the far right UKIP try John Angarracks new book Scat t'larrups? Resist and survive.

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10.Aug 2008 - 13:19

I have readd it.

?He is complaining that UKIP gets loads of publicity in western morning news


Well, that is a newspaper

HE could set one up!

a newspapaer
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10.Aug 2008 - 13:27



b) There is NO WAY given your habit of effectively stalking gay persons on social websites

Bit rich coming from someone who has been banned from bebo several times

& the overt & unwelcome advances you previously made upon friends of mine at the beach day (2007), that I would provide you with names of 'gay' former pupils of Helston school. Sufice to say I can name at least eight gay/bi former students and (chuckle) they would not thank me for the introduction (or in some cases re-introduction, as you ARE already known by reputation, to them), lol.

Yes, i know these people. Please tell me they will not be coming to gay pride next weekend.


c) Yes, 2006 Flora Day WAS violent. Three seperate homophobic incidents observed that evening alone. The esculated problem was that police ignored the 'True Vision' (which they are signed up too as a force)statement & Crown Prosecution policy on reported 'homophobic incidents'. If you have not read either of these definitions of what constitutes a 'homophobic incident', I suggest you do.

d). The other person assaulted stated to police (whilst still lying bleeding on the ground), that it was a homophobic assault. The expression 'F*cking Queer' had been used during the assault.

I personally identified both the drunken assailants to police, who then let them leave the scene in a taxi. I then drove the other victim to West Cornwall hospital for x-rays & stiches.

The police officer responce & stated, and I quote "Shut up, be quiet, you do not want to say that"


Do not want to say what exactly?

The following day when I voluntarily went to give a written statement at Helston police station, the same officer at first REFUSED to take my statement, then threatened if I continued to press for the assault to be investigated he would prosecute the other victim for 'affray'. I do not give into bullies easily, especially when they are homophobic police bullies!

There were numerous gay/bi witnesses to the assault, (most of whom I can still name and identify) most of whom felt to intimidated by the hostile reaction of the Cornwall police to give a witness statement.

e) These are just 'some' of the reasons I KNOW Cornwall police to be homophobic.

• “I am personally aware as a witness to a DC police officer who committed perjury in a Civil Crown Court against a gay person.
• The same police officer also said ‘anal sex was always an act of sexual violence’ in a court of law against a gay person, which was accepted by the court.(The same judge condemned gay equality and HIV/AIDS awareness campaigning as ‘Evangelical Proselytising’, the same judge also implied age of equal consent at 16 came into effect in 2004…when in fact it was 2001).
• A local community police officer who told a gay victim of a brutal serious violent assault in Helston, Cornwall, to ‘shut up, be quiet, you don’t want to say that’, when the victim informed the police officer he thought it was a homophobic assault.
• The same police officer then threatened to charge with affray, a gay victim (hospitalised) after violent assault, if complaint of assault made by either two LGBT victims.
• I know a police Sergeant who obstructed information to a gay person how to make a formal complaint against police.
• Another police Sergeant, now an Inspector, tried to obstruct disclosure by a gay person of defence statements to police prosecution.
• Another police officer lied about a signature in a pocket book to try to cover up police misconduct against a gay person.
• Yet another police officer who lied and failed to deliver ALL legally entitled court paperwork to a gay victim of police homophobia.
• A police Inspector who stated in a letter spreading rumours a gay person had HIV/AIDS (when they did not have HIV/AIDS) was not harassment.
• The same Inspector stated in a letter screaming of homophobic abuse in the streets was not harassment of a gay person.
• A Detective Constable who participated in attempted blackmail of a homeless vagrant 15yr old gay youth living rough on the streets of Helston, this recorded on tape.
• Then there were two police officers carried out a partial strip search on a gay youth in a public place and failed to follow home office guidelines on “stop and search”. The youth a witness in another case AGAINST police officers for misconduct. The same police rude to an elderly pensioner witness in defence of the gay youth. The youth’s complaints ignored by police of misconduct.
• A Detective Constable who tried to mislead a court of law as to ownership of a property and who acted upon entirely homophobic allegations against a gay person.
• A Detective Constable who threatened a seized computer (later returned) would be wiped of information. The same police officer failed to return seized property to a gay person within an acceptable time line resulting in destruction of two gay owned businesses. The same police officer refused a gay person access to an LGBT diversity officer.
• A Detective Constable failed to finalise a case, leaving a gay victim of homophobic abuse on the police computer as a suspect.
• Custody officers failed to enable a gay person held in custody any food for in excess of 7 hours and tried to bully a gay person when their property went missing whilst detained by the police.
• A police Inspector lied about identity of two police officers who made un-logged visit to a gay person’s home. This combination of police abuses and violations subsequently drove a gay person to attempt suicide.

...and there is a great deal more than this short list.


No please, this is enough

f) Numerous emails from myself and other lgbt activists & campaigners remain unreplied too by the pride organisers,

So?

plus a viscious personal attack by one of the promoters upon myself

saying what exactly?

and refusal to engage in dialogue with those lgbt persons with actual experience of institutional homophobia from the VERY organisations
They can have who they like at their pride parade. why should they listen to what you have to say?

(like police & Cornwall County Council), being embraced, at the exclusiuon of lgbt persons by the organisers.

Peter Midwood does not speak, neither do I on the video, we have no sound recording facility,

Get one

but his contribution is evident & clear, plus it is pretty difficult to get six box files of correspondence, statements & witness evidence into a 3-4min video.


Make a longer video

Although, I have given two & a half hours of verbal recorded witness statement to the Criminal Policy Research department of Kings College University (regarding Cornwall police homophobia), who are conducting investigation into the effectiveness of the Independent Police Complaints commission on behalf of the Government National Audit office.

...and finally, err, what did you say 'YOU' had contributed to (lgbt) gay equality, civil rights advancement & or HIV/AIDS treatment, care & prevention in Cornwall

...I think I must have missed it in your last statement.

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NOTHING, I ADMIT THAT
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10.Aug 2008 - 14:19

Is ILH Tess Nash or Peter Merrick?
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10.Aug 2008 - 14:23

Neither.

I am not Peter Merrick or Tess Nash.
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11.Aug 2008 - 05:29

UKIP aren't fascist, the BNP aren't even actually fascist despite being seedy in the same way as Tony Blair or the democrats aren't socialists or commies. Whatever one's views these hyperbole's designed to allow people to not deal with issues and people and to dismiss them help no one.



edited by: Bonniedundee, Aug 11, 2008 - 05:31 AM
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11.Aug 2008 - 09:05

They are not fascist
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11.Aug 2008 - 16:49

"Whatever ones views these hyperbole's designed to allow people to not deal with issues and people and to dismiss them help no one" icon_lol
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20.Aug 2008 - 09:48

Oh, this made me chuckle.

I had to post it!



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20.Aug 2008 - 10:06

Goky should be at the gay parade. You do look macho with those gloves on, sailor.

Let's be honest a lot of these blokes would have a go at someone if you were to steal their girlfriend also.

If someone's a ***** someone's a *****.

Only true knowledge can set you free.
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20.Aug 2008 - 10:16

Goky should be at the gay parade.
Who/What is Goky?

You do look macho with those gloves on, sailor.

Let's be honest a lot of these blokes would have a go at someone if you were to steal their girlfriend also.
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20.Aug 2008 - 10:19

The person with the boxing gloves.
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20.Aug 2008 - 12:12

Oh please do not call this Cornwall pride, a 'gay pride'

...it is very clear the organisers have gone to great & considerable lengths from the outset NOT to call it a gay pride. Whether this is out of closeted shame or appeasement to organisations in Cornwall like Cornwall County Council or Cornwall police, which have ALWAYS traditionally been homophobic in Cornwall.

This Cornwall pride clearly is promoted by the organisers as a pink & fluffy 'diversity' pride, NOT a gay pride!.

It has also been made very clear (even on this thread by 'iloveheston') and on other threads by Jen, a Cornwall pride promoter, that some gay men, (& gay women & gay youth) who HAVE & DO actively campaign for real gay equality ARE NOT WELCOME at this Cornwall pride event!

So please, please do not call it a gay pride...gay PRIDE is and has always had its roots in gay political emancipation & equality, fighting for lesbian & gay rights & equality in law in the face of homophobc obstruction, just like that homophobic prejudice exhibited by Cornwall County Council & Cornwall police over decades...and not in the appologetic pink & fluffy pink pound hungry, appeasement to homophobes in Cornwall's traditionally homophobic institutions, who are now desperately trying to appear on the surface as 'gay friendly' to conform with equality law, but whilst in reality STILL not treating gay peple, like Cornish gay youth Peter Midwood, (watch his video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr7eGX-Rux0 ) with honesty & fairness.

The organisers of this Cornwall 'diversity' event REMOVED information from their forum about the institutional abuse this Cornish gay youth suffered from the VILE homophobic Cornwall police & Cornwall County Council...hardly the act of a real gay PRIDE on the part of a gay supportive organisation.

So, NO this is NOT by definition, a gay PRIDE, but even according to the organisers it is a Cornwall 'diversity' event!



edited by: pinkpasty, Aug 20, 2008 - 12:15 PM

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20.Aug 2008 - 12:59

please do not call this Cornwall pride, a 'gay pride'

It is a gay pride seeing as the organiser says it is.
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20.Aug 2008 - 13:15

Pasty, in your opinion are cornwall police and cornwall CC anymore homophobic than devon police and devon CC? Or is the problem in cornwall one that is similar to areas across the UK (and Europe) outside of major urban centres?

Homophobia is wrong and the police should ensure that all people are treated equally, however, it is clear that the police do not do this, see also treatment of cornish nationalists, environmental campiagners (kingsnorth), brazilian electricians, etc, etc



edited by: IrishJack, Aug 20, 2008 - 01:16 PM

But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions, backbiting and esoteric language drivel

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

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20.Aug 2008 - 14:15

Pasty, in your opinion are cornwall police and cornwall CC anymore homophobic than devon police and devon CC? Or is the problem in cornwall one that is similar to areas across the UK (and Europe) outside of major urban centres?

Remember this is based on one case of one individual who has been expelled from school

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20.Aug 2008 - 14:28

irishjackPasty, in your opinion are cornwall police and cornwall CC anymore homophobic than devon police and devon CC? Or is the problem in cornwall one that is similar to areas across the UK (and Europe) outside of major urban centres?


ilovemyselftomuchandtooftenRemember this is based on one case of one individual who has been expelled from school


Pffffffffttttttttt, OMG, Orsehole,

I was asking a generalised question about homophobia in officialdom in britain, rather than about a specific case.




edited by: IrishJack, Aug 20, 2008 - 02:28 PM

But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions, backbiting and esoteric language drivel

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

[url]http://www.rossocarrollkelly.ie/
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20.Aug 2008 - 16:07

was asking a generalised question about homophobia in officialdom in britain,

is as widespread as homophobia outside officialdom

whatever officialdom means!
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20.Aug 2008 - 16:09

irishjack was asking a generalised question about homophobia in officialdom in britain


ilovemyselftomuchandtooften
whatever officialdom means!


OMG WHATEVER, tell it to the hand.

PS Using the phucking quote system



edited by: IrishJack, Aug 20, 2008 - 04:11 PM

But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions, backbiting and esoteric language drivel

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

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20.Aug 2008 - 16:14

Well, what is officialdom?
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20.Aug 2008 - 16:23

ilovemyselftomuchandtooftenWell, what is officialdom?


Idiot, phuck off,

I have asked the Pink one a question and I am intersted in his answer, not your puerile twaddle.





edited by: IrishJack, Aug 20, 2008 - 04:23 PM

But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions, backbiting and esoteric language drivel

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

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20.Aug 2008 - 16:48

Yes, without question Cornwall police are by reputation worse than Devon. Likewise Cornwall County Council to their counter part in Plymouth city council anyway.

Actually, 'ilovetostickmyheadinthesand-helston' it is based on information once given to me at an lgbt meeting in Exeter attended by various LGBT organisations and with members of the Intercom Trust and not so long ago & also it based upon numerous personal experience & observation of a widespread failing within the Cornwall police force specifically. (Even an admission of failing by the Devon & Cornwall senior diversity officer following the TWO IPCC enquiries)

I could list numerous situations & cases of homophobic incidents & police failing un-investigated including just about every major town in Cornwall.

Unfortunately, just as only 1 in 4 homophobic incidents get reported nationally (Stonewall 2008 research into homophobic hate crime in Britain). There is a genuine & understandable reluctance by those lgbt persons who inform me of incidents in Cornwall to go public...given the attitude of Cornwall police to TARGET gay people who DO report homophohbic incidents, as I have personally experienced from one police sgt from Helston, Cornwall, one can understand why so little gets known about or reported to police.

I was at the time informed by Intercom that there was a problem with police BCU at Truro (Basic Command Unit) which was effectively acting as a maverick in relation to actively progressing equality & diversity issues for LGBT persons.

I personaly happen to know there is a REAL homophobic problem at both Camborne & Helston police stations...and yet the ONE (and only) positive interaction was with ONE local community officer from Helston...sadly the exception rather than the rule!

Devon however has had some considerable success & huge amounts of praise were positively heaped by the local gay community upon the Plymouth diversity officer recently, prior to their being moved on.

However Cornwall has a l-o-n-g history of police activity against gay persons and some of these coppers are still probably in post or their zealot prodigy are. I recently found reference to the longest anti-gay police operation in British history being conducted in Cornwall under a well known & documented anti-gay chief constable, before he moved on.

Then there was the Treluswell debacle, where police used entrapemnent techniques which the Home Office had condemned years previously. The brutal Trerrence Sweet murder in Plymouth, and the other assaults upon gay men in/from Cornwall at the time and the hostility of the police towards the local lgbt population. And there was another police ***** up of a gay murder?/manslaughter near Newquay, I conducted & officiated the funeral. I myself when editor of the ICT publication in 1992, tried to set up a Cornwall police LGBT liaison. The meeting I had at Camborne was blatantly homophobically abusive on the part of the police, (no change there then) I walked out.

I could go on and on (and there are plenty who think I already do, lol) listing incidents in Cornwall.

So YES, this is a problem in Cornwall, (being brushed under the carpet) primarily I believe, due to the lack of visiblity & support by Cornish institutions for gay people over a long time. There is also the tendancy for LGBT persons in Cornwall in general to keep their heads down & mouths shut, as there can be a lack of anonimity if one speaks out, rapidly followed by prejuicial actions to those who do put their head over the parapet.

I know this to my cost from the sheer volume of police intimidation, threats & violation of my life that I recieve as a gay person living in Cornwall.

Tony Leamon, the Cornish campaigner will need to watch his back if my personal experience as a gay man in Cornwall targeted by the police is anything to go by...they (police) will continue their vendetta against him at the earliest opportunity.



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20.Aug 2008 - 17:34

IrishJack
ilovemyselftomuchandtooftenWell, what is officialdom?


Idiot, phuck off,

I have asked the Pink one a question and I am intersted in his answer, not your puerile twaddle.

edited by: IrishJack, Aug 20, 2008 - 04:23 PM


It is a simple question
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20.Aug 2008 - 17:57

Good luck with him lads ilovemyselftomuchandtooften must of lost his barain somwhere or something banged it and fell out
why dont you try and look it up in the dictonary its that simple



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20.Aug 2008 - 18:20

A number of people have been in touch regarding this BBC article, them being convinced my 'relentless' gay equality campaign is having an impact:-

"Police to fly flag at festival"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7573076.stm

However, some other lesbians & gay people feel that it is the 'kiss of death'.

Either way, I won't know until after the event as it has been made most clear, both on here (by 'ilovehelston') and on other websites, along with a refusal by the Cornwall pride organisers to communicate with some lesbian & gay people, that myself & other gay men & lesbians who have fought for gay equality are simply NOT WELCOME at this institutional & contived Cornwall 'diversity' event.

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20.Aug 2008 - 19:00

ilovehelstonplease do not call this Cornwall pride, a 'gay pride'

It is a gay pride seeing as the organiser says it is.


This is the official (below) Cornwall Pride blurb, nowhere does it say it is a gay pride event. In previous quotes it was described as a 'diversity' event, NOT a gay pride event.

"Cornwall’s first ever Cornwall Pride Festival took its first steps to becoming a reality this week, when on Monday 11th the Pride 2008 Committee met for the first time. The committee will be responsible for planning and carrying out the diversity festival this year.
Saturday 23rd August was chosen as the date for the event and preparations are already under way to make sure it is an event that all people in Cornwall can be proud of – from whatever background or lifestyle.

After the first meeting, the newly-elected Chairman Christian Diamant said “The idea of Pride is to be an all inclusive celebration of diversity in Cornwall. Everyone will be welcome to participate in the parade through Truro and then onto celebrations afterwards.”
The Pride event will be similar to other events throughout the country and should be an opportunity for local business to benefit from a significant group of people from across the country.

Christian Diamant went on to say “At its most basic what Cornwall Pride is celebrating is the fact that Cornwall is a better place because not everyone is white, not everyone is straight and that Cornwall would be a worse place if we were all the same! Hopefully, the event will be enjoyable for both locals and holiday makers who are visiting our County.”


Seeing as 'ilovehelston' has according to him, by his own admission on this webforum, been informed by the organiser of Cornwall pride, that myself as a gay equality campaigner for twenty years (and other gay men, gay women & gay youth by proxy) are NOT WELCOME...coupled with a reluctance to say it is a real 'gay pride', I can't see that it is a gay pride, given the history of gay pride nationally & internationally.

This is a pink & fluffy diversity event, NOT a gay pride event. A real gay pride event would be proud of our gay/lesbian history in Cornwall and have its feet firmly in the his/herstory tradition of Gay pride, gay emancipation & the struggle for gay rights.






edited by: pinkpasty, Aug 20, 2008 - 07:01 PM

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20.Aug 2008 - 23:00

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7573076.stm
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20.Aug 2008 - 23:36

'Chief Constable Otter said: "I would like to personally add my support to the organisers and participants of Cornwall Pride 2008.

"Devon and Cornwall Constabulary is pleased to be associated with the promotion of diversity."

'Pride committee chairman Christian Diamant said: "It is very exciting that in just a few days Cornwall will see its first countywide Pride festival.

"Not only this, but we have recently found out that it is going to be a first for the UK as well, as we are the only countywide Pride event in the country." '


From the above wilfully misleading territorial terminology it would seem that this not-but-maybe-gay parade is yet another disorientational Anglo-Imperialist-Kernowassimilist attempt at marginalisation of the ethnic Cornish within their own COUNTRY, pinkpasty.

Par for the course for the Otter.

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LOST! 'Cornwall' Pride 2008



edited by: TeamKernow, Aug 21, 2008 - 12:15 AM
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21.Aug 2008 - 00:28

i DID NOT realise that Cornwall was a country, when has it ever been a country
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21.Aug 2008 - 01:08

Well, IMayLoveHelstonButDoesHelstonLoveMe?, if you were at all interested in what Cornwall24 has to offer you would kernow by now.

Why don't you have a good rummage in the Cornwall24 archive of threads.

Just enter ' Cornwall Country ' in the
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That should help you with that area of your kernowledge once and for all.

You will never need to ask again!
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21.Aug 2008 - 09:23

Pink One, from what you say it appears that the police in cornwall are particularly homophobic, this is sad and unacceptable. Do you feel that this is a reflection of cornish society or are cornish police particularly indoctrinated against LGBT (or perhaps more repressed)?
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21.Aug 2008 - 09:32

There is the Duchy of Cornwall which does NOT include the whole of CornwALL WHICH is a private estate
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21.Aug 2008 - 09:37

ilovemyselftomuchandtooftenThere is the Duchy of Cornwall which does NOT include the whole of CornwALL WHICH is a private estate


Like OMG, like, why do you post here? orsehole. like, get a life, and move on.

But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions, backbiting and esoteric language drivel

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

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21.Aug 2008 - 09:39

Well, what is incorrect about what I said?
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21.Aug 2008 - 10:20

I find it really offensive that the police in Cornwall are planning to fly the Rainbow flag whilst the catalogue of abuses carried out by Cornwall police officers remain un-investigated & swept under the carpet.

I barely stop short of calling Chief Constable a blatant liar, but due to my experience:-
http://wiki.pinkpaper.com/LGBT%20Activist.ashx

I personally DO NOT trust one single word this Chief Constable utters on the issue of 'EQUALITY & DIVERSITY' with regard to LGBT persons in Cornwall.

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21.Aug 2008 - 10:51

IrishJackPink One, from what you say it appears that the police in cornwall are particularly homophobic, this is sad and unacceptable. Do you feel that this is a reflection of cornish society or are cornish police particularly indoctrinated against LGBT (or perhaps more repressed)?


It is my experience it is a reflection of institutions across Cornwall, not just the police, the entire Criminal Justice Service & Cornwall County Council.

Eg. I remember when a certain highly placed existing Cornwall County Councilor critised as "a complete waste of money, which could be better spent elsewhere" when Cornwall LGBT campaigners finally forced the Cornwall & Isles of Scilly Health Authority to increase from £3,000/yr to £50,000/yr on HIV/AIDS preventiion for gay/bi men in Cornwall.

Bareing in mind there was a ringfenced protected anual budget in Cornwall of almost £600,000/year SPECIFICALLY for HIV/AIDS control, care treatment. Ring fenced! (can't be spent on anything else, but clearly was?).

At that time the legally required Cornwall AIDS Control Act document acknowledged that 70% of the (then) known cases of HIV/AIDS in Cornwall were amongst men who had sex with men.

So imagine
(1) 70% of your known case file are amongst a particular specific target group
(2) You have an anual budget of £600,000/yr to tackle this particular problem
(3) ...and you are spending just £3,000/yr of that £600,000 budget to try to prevent that particular condition in the then primary at risk group.

Some might call that almost a genocidal attitude towards the primary at risk group. I did and caused a stir.

I can give similar sorts of examples of blatant discriminatary attitudes towards LGBT persons across an entire range of statutary services in Cornwall...IN PARTICULAR those run by the HOMOPHOBES at County Hall, in particular within the laughable "Equality & Diversity" comittee which specifically EXCLUDES lgbt persons who do not cowl down & tow the line.

Such is the level of corrupt attitudes that protests DIRECTLY to the Chief Exec. at County Hall, County Council Chair & individual councilors...unfortunately gay people JUST DO NOT MATTER in Cornwall!

This could not be made ANY clearer than the child abuse, neglect & volation of the gay youth Peter Midwood carried out by those within Cornwall's vile & homophobic aurhorities.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itpwloMfpco

...that coupled with so few gay people being informed & knowledgeable of the facts and unwilling to make themselves heard...and why?

Because those (like me) who have made ourselves heard get targeted & demonised by the HOMOPHOBIC Cornwall police REPEATEDLY to try to get us to SHUT UP!

... and that is why I do not believe a single word spouted by the Chief Constable of Devon & Cornwall HOMOPHOBIC Constabulary!

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21.Aug 2008 - 13:32

pinkpastyI find it really offensive that the police in Cornwall are planning to fly the Rainbow flag whilst the catalogue of abuses carried out by Cornwall police officers remain un-investigated & swept under the carpet.

I barely stop short of calling Chief Constable a blatant liar, but due to my experience:-
http://wiki.pinkpaper.com/LGBT%20Activist.ashx

I personally DO NOT trust one single word this Chief Constable utters on the issue of 'EQUALITY & DIVERSITY' with regard to LGBT persons in Cornwall.


Note this prase everyone

"my experience"

Deal with it.

We will have a wonderful day on Saturday
IrishJack