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18.Jun 2005 - 18:58
http://groups.msn.com/WelshRepublicanComment/glyndwr.msnw
http://ctd.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=189
http://www.cbil.lautre.net/01_plateforme/plateforme_gb.htm
http://www.breizh.net/identity/index.htm
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18.Jun 2005 - 20:02
As far as i know the Cornish Nationalist Party are still going although they are more of a pressure group nowadays than a political party. I was subscriptions secretary for 6 years from 1995 - 2001 and a member from 1984 - 2001. I left because i felt that the CNP had come to a halt and didn't seem to be going anywhere politcal wise and the Chairman, Dr. James Whetter more or less agreed with me admitting that the CNP had taken on the role of a pressure group.
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19.Jun 2005 - 00:37
Not a bad read but I feel the movement needs a dedicated direction and a charismatic leader. The same could be said abiut MK, I suppose.
I believe there was a militaristic wing of the CNP called the Greenshirts.
The problem is that CNP sounds a little like the BNP and the CNP are not are racist group wheras the BNP run a fine line in home county UKIP coffee mornings.
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19.Jun 2005 - 08:12
Although I am not an active member of MK it would seem to me that MK at least has a dedicated direction. Often the term "there is need for a charismatic leader" is used in terms of leadership, but the down side to that is when the so-called 'charismatic' leader is no longer there things fall apart and you end up further behind than where you were before. What people might be thinking is that MK, possibly, needs to loose the fear of saying things that some people might not like to hear. The problem with that is, particularly with parties like MK, the SNP and Plaid Cymru, that both the media, establishment and general public are just waiting to be able to say, "Aah I told you they were extremists!" That's the dilemma, say what needs to be said and be strong and united enough to take the flack or, coast along hoping for a breakthrough. I think MK is gaining much ground, even if quietly and incrementally. We've got used to measuring everything by how much media attention it gets; it just seems nothing is happening. Many of the changes and gains we take for granted now are due to MK's (i.e. its members) pressure over decades. I was once close to joining the CNP when its leader broke away from MK, but deep down I knew that it was MK with its strong roots in Cornwall that was the best machine for enabling control of Cornwall to be given back to its citizens. A small number of unpaid and undervalued party workers can only do so much, so if anything I would like to see MK with employed staff to do the day-to-day "donkeywork", but that will come. (and no I'm not the MK press officer
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19.Jun 2005 - 19:22
Is a member of the European Free Alliance http://www.greens-efa.org/en/
I think MK is as well although they are not mentioned on the EFA website, need to get onto that one Mr Jenkin!
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19.Jun 2005 - 20:29
I'm thinking about learn cornish (i can manage to do this in britanny), do you know if their is a kind of "summer scholl" in Cornish ? (for the next months or year)
Thank you ...
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19.Jun 2005 - 21:43
Desolait, je parle pas les langue Cornique ou Breton mais je parle un peut le Francais.
Je habite a Paris depuis mars 2004 dans onzieme pres du Pere Lachaise cemitiere, c'est chouette non, il y a Oscare Wilde et Jim Morrison dedans.
J'ai beaucoup de chose a fair en ce moment, je fait un cour pour devenir prof de Anglais et c'est dure, je boss com un malade mais je cherche un ecole à Paris qui donne des cour de langue Breton.
Est-ce que vous connaissez une bonne ecole à Paris, est-ce que vous pourriez me donnez l'address sil vous plait.
Je crois que le "Links" page ce serais un bonne commencement pour vous.
http://www.cornwall24.co.uk/Web_Links.htm
Desolate pour mon Francais, je ne parle pas couramment, c'est juste un an que j'ai apris cet langue et je fait beaucoup des errors encore.
bon, c'est tout, bonne chance avec votre recherches
Fulub Le Cornouaillais
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19.Jun 2005 - 23:08
je suis sur qu'il y a des cours à ti ar vretoned (la maison des bretons) qui doit se trouver à la "mission bretonne" rue delambre dans le 14eme. (je vais vérifier)...sinon tu peux taper "skol ober" sur google c'est des cours de breton (et de cornique !) par correspondance cela fonctionne trés bien. Si tu as un problème recontacte moi. Je t'aiderais avec plaisir.merci de ton aide ! with my best interceltics greetings !
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19.Jun 2005 - 23:23
DEMONSTRATION REMINDS BRETONS OF FREEDOM STRUGGLE
A demonstration and commemoration were held in Gwengamp, Brittany
at the weekend to remember some of those who have died in the Breton
freedom struggle over the years and also to remind Bretons of the
ongoing court case and repression of Breton nationalists today.
The meeting was co-operatively organised by CARB (the Breton prisoners
solidarity group) and Nationalist Organisation, Emgann-MGI.
As is generally the case with such events the demonstration was attended
by the media and also attracted the usual intimidatory scrutiny of
the French Police.
However the demonstrators were not deterred and a wreath to commemorate
fallen Breton comrades such as Kristian ar Bihan, Yann-Kel Kernaleguen
and Jean Groix was laid. The wreath laying was followed by a patriotic
rendering of "Kan Bale An ARB".
Bretons were urged to continue to give practical financial support
to the Breton prisoners group, Skoazell Vreizh.
Those outside Brittany in the other Celtic countries who are sympathetic
to the plight of the Breton prisoners can also contribute messages
of solidarity and financial support. Details of how to contact Skoazell
Vreizh are on their web-site.
www.skoazellvreizh.org
J B Moffatt
Secretary General
Celtic League
13/06/05
The Celtic League has branches in the six Celtic Countries of the
western British Isles and Brittany. It works to promote cooperation
between these countries and campaigns on a broad range of political,
cultural and environmental matters. It targets human rights abuse
and monitors all military activity within these areas.
TEL (UK)01624 877918 MOBILE (UK)07624 491609
Internet site at
http://www.manxman.co.im/cleague
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celtic_league/
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20.Jun 2005 - 00:02
Thanks (trugarez) for making our site more international. You may be aware of the Stannary Parliament's site which has a lot of information on Kernow:
http://www.cornish-stannary-parliament.abelgratis.com/
The work with FUEN may be of interest to you.
The Breton language is very interesting to us as it is so similar to Kernewek, except that we do not use 'Z' whereas Breton does a lot!
Kenavo - Mike
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20.Jun 2005 - 09:45
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20.Jun 2005 - 10:00
Republican Sinn Fein Explains Irish View on EU Constitution
(Statement by the Vice President of Republican Sinn Fein Des Dalton)
During a visit to Brittany as a guest of the Breton Independence movement Emgann, the Vice President of Republican Sinn Fein Des Dalton at a Press Conference in Rennes on May 25, a public meeting also in Rennes on May 26 and a meeting in Guingamp on May 27 outlined Republican Sinn Fein’s views on the proposed EU Constitution and neutrality. Their opposition to the Stormont Agreement and determination to end British rule in Ireland was also explained.
“Ireland like Brittany is a small nation, which over many centuries has had to struggle to assert her own identity, in terms of history, language and culture. Today part of Ireland remains under British occupation, denying the Irish people’s right to national unity, sovereignty and independence, all of which has been reinforced by the sectarian ‘Stormont Agreement’.
Because of our commitment to a free and independent Ireland and our opposition to imperialism in all of its forms, from the beginning we have opposed the entire EEC\EU project.
In every referenda, since 1972 when the 26 County State joined the then EEC Republican Sinn Fein have campaigned against the continued erosion of Irish sovereignty and neutrality. In 1972 we warned of the effects which membership would have on Irish agriculture and fisheries. Today those effects are there for all to see, the numbers who now work in agriculture have been halved whilst the Irish fishing industry has been destroyed. On an international level Republican Sinn Fein’s warning that the EEC would eventually become a militarised federal super-state is being fulfilled with every passing day.
The entire EU political and economic project is fundamentally undemocratic. It is about the centralisation of power and decision making, taking it away from the various national parliaments and
placing it in the hands of unelected bureaucrats. The European Parliament is nothing but an over subsidised talking shop, with real power wielded by the commission and the council of ministers. Indeed as Republican Sinn Fein pointed out at the time, The Nice Treaty was not about enlargement but rather ensuring that the structures of the EU were changed to ensure that all decision making remained weighted in favour of the major states such as Germany, France, Italy and Britain at the expense of the smaller countries. The EU Constitution accelerates this process and sets about giving the EU the framework of a super-state. The formulation of a ‘Common defence policy’ and the establishment of ‘Battle Groups’ to which all states must contribute troops shows clearly the direction in which the EU is headed.
Almost 15 years ago Jacque Delors spoke about the resource wars which would have to be fought in the 21 Century in pursuit of the EU’s political and economic interests, the ongoing Anglo\US led war in Iraq is surely the first of such resource wars which the rich and powerful north is set to wage on the poor and developing south. The EU Constitution provides the means by which a European army can be raised to participate in such wars. Whilst states could choose not to participate in particular armed actions, under the constitution they could not remain neutral, and would be obliged to support “actively and unreservedly� EU Foreign and Security policy, they also must “comply� with the EU’s actions in foreign policy. This off course undermines the neutrality of states such as 26 Counties of Ireland. Under the terms of the constitution all states must pay for the establishment and administration of EU military policy. Even more sinister is the involvement of NATO, which in all likelihood will become the military arm of the EU superstate, helping to impose the warped new world order of George Bush and Tony Blair.
For small nations like Ireland and Brittany the EU merely represents another form of imperialism. Instead of having power centred in London or Paris it will instead be administered from Brussels. This will not change the reality of either British or French rule; it is merely replacing one form of imperialism with another. Under the EU Constitution the rights of the stateless nations of Europe will be further reduced and undermined. This should not surprise us as the original Treaty of Rome was drawn up by the former imperial powers of Europe, who have in the decades since moulded the EU in their own image. Not only do not recognise even the existence of some small nations but also have attempted to erase all vestiges of their identity. In Brittany you are all too familiar with the French state’s attempt to take away your language and culture, just as Britain did in Ireland. These large states such as Britain and France have waged war on our peoples rather than accept our right to our own nation state.
As Irish Republicans we are also internationalists, over many years we have developed our links with all peoples who struggle to assert their right to nationhood and independence. In particular we have been proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with the various stateless nations of Europe be it the Basque country, Corsica, Sardinia, Wales, Scotland Galicia and off course Brittany, all of us are united in struggle and our commitment to see our countries take their rightful place in the world community of nations.
Ireland’s relationship with Brittany has always been special, our shared Celtic heritage coupled with our shared experience of colonialism and foreign occupation are the reasons for this.
Following the Second World War many Bretons came to Ireland to escape persecution at the hands of the French state, amongst those was the artist Yan Goulet, who remained throughout his life a friend of Ireland and the Irish Republican Movement, he designed monuments all over Ireland, erected to the memory of those who gave their lives for Irish freedom. In particular Irish people remember with pride and affection the solidarity shown by the Breton people during the 1981 hunger strikes, when Bobby Sands and his nine comrades died in the H Blocks of Long Kesh resisting Britain’s attempt to criminalise the Irish fight for freedom. Thousands of Breton people took to the streets to demonstrate their support for the struggle of the Irish people.
The way forward is a free community of nations. The long serving General Secretary of the Celtic League, Alan Heusseff, a Breton patriot and a true comrade to all Irish Republicans, envisaged a community of free Celtic nations, which like the Nordic council could cooperate on matters of mutual interest, in areas such as trade, tourism and fisheries amongst others.
Republican Sinn Fein shares this vision, the Irish patriot and leader of the 1916 rising, James Connolly wrote about a federation of free peoples, and like him we believe true democracy can only function when the decision making process is fully accountable and operates as close to the people affected by the decisions, politically or economically. The only means of ensuring this is within the framework of the nation state and by involving people in the decision making process at every level from national, to regional, right down to local and community level.
Like Emgann we believe in the “right of absolute equality between nations�. This is the only foundation upon which true peace and stability can be created internationally. When all peoples, not just in Europe but also throughout the world are allowed to carve out their own space, exercising their fundamental right to nationhood can we lay the basis for a world order based on the principles of justice, democracy and peace. The Breton people can only experience true democracy, when they have governmental structures which they have created, which involve them and which are accountable to them. Their right like that of all nations to elect a parliament and government which will legislate and govern in their best interests as well as representing them on the international stage is absolute.
The EU cannot provide the vehicle for this kind of revolutionary change. As a body it denies the existence of the stateless nations of Europe, the philosophy, culture and history upon which it is based is imperialist. For this reason we view the campaign against the EU Constitution as yet another front in the ongoing struggle for Irish Independence, for Breton independence and the independence and freedom of all stateless peoples.
In Ireland Republican Sinn Fein has played and continues to play a leading role in opposition to the illegal Anglo\US led occupation of Iraq. Irish Republicans have throughout our history opposed all imperialist wars of conquest, from the Boer War fought by the British in South Africa at the turn of the last century, the First World War right up to the Gulf war in 1991 when we were the first to protest at the landing of US warplanes at Shannon airport.
Not only have we opposed such wars but have also actively opposed all attempts to involve the Irish people in these wars on the side of the imperialists. Be it campaigning against recruitment for the British army during the Boer War or conscription during the First World War, likewise we have opposed all attempts to breach Irish neutrality. The actions of the present 26 County Dublin government in granting landing and refuelling and airspace facilities to US warplanes are illegal under both domestic and international law. They also are in direct opposition to the clearly expressed views of the vast majority of Irish people.
In Republican Sinn Fein’s proposals for a New Ireland following a British withdrawal, EIRE NUA (New Ireland) we set out clearly our view of Ireland’s place in the world, in a proposed constitution for a free Ireland it upholds the right of Ireland: “to join international organisations---e.g. the United Nations, the World Health Organisation--- so long as such organisations do not subvert Irish sovereignty and neutrality.� One of the special responsibilities of the parliament of a free Ireland would be: “maintaining Irish neutrality and independence from all power blocs, including the EU, and seeking to secure a nuclear free world.�
In a spirit of solidarity we move forward shoulder to shoulder with Emgann and the Breton people, determined to continue our struggle for a free Ireland and a free Brittany, which could together take their place in free a community of our sister Celtic nations.
Ends.
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20.Jun 2005 - 10:54
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20.Jun 2005 - 11:40
http://bretagnelibre.over-blog.com/
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20.Jun 2005 - 12:58
Thanks Fulub, this is the joint Green - EFA site as the two groups work together in the European Parliament and it may be a bit out of date in terms of EFA members.
At the EFA conference at the end of May in Rennes, Brittany. The UDB did a fantastic job at hosting I think delegates from 32 member parties including 4 Mebyon Kernow reps and of course our close friends in Plaid Cymru. SNP and Plaid Cymru contribute 3 MEPs to the Green - EFA group in the European Parliament.
The EFA website:
http://www.efa-dppe.org/default2.htm
Definitely has details of Mebyon Kernow on it. Also of interest our youth and external affairs officer was elected on to the European wide committee for the EFA youth organisation. Our senior rep also tabled an important motion regarding minority language rights in conjuction with EFA and Eurolang which was unanimously accepted by all present. So you will be glad to know that Cornwall is taking an active role in Europe through MK's membership of the EFA.
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20.Jun 2005 - 13:14
Just as a point of information - to be a political party in the UK you are required to be on the political parties register.
http://www.electoralcommission.gov.uk/regulatory-issues/regpoliticalparties.cfm?ec=%7Bts%20%272005%2D06%2D20%2013%3A11%3A00%27%7D
This allows you to contest UK elections. The only political party that is registered in Cornwall is Mebyon Kernow
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20.Jun 2005 - 13:21
http://www.udb-bzh.net/
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20.Jun 2005 - 17:07
Penaos 'man kont?
Ho trugarekatt (pour l'information)
FLB
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20.Jun 2005 - 18:33
There are schools and Breton speakers in Paris.
It will give me a chance to meet people in Paris and improve my French.
I will be able to learn Breton well here because of the above and that at a later date move to Cornish.
Hope you Cornish speakers can forgive me.
Anyway for those interested here are some websites on the two languages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornish_language
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breton_language
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20.Jun 2005 - 21:15
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21.Jun 2005 - 16:34
Toi et Emgann sont contra the constitution europeen néamoins les peuple Breton ont dité OUI
http://www.eurominority.org/version/eng/reports-detail.asp?id_actualite=770
Pour quoi?
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26.Jun 2005 - 03:52
Or the charismatic leader goes bonkers and inflicts huge damage on the party's public image (yes, I'm thinking of David Icke and the Greens here).
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30.Jun 2005 - 18:09
They are mentioned here:-
http://www.efa-dppe.org/default2.htm
and "MK member elected onto EFAY bureau"
http://www.mebyonkernow.org/Public/Stories/174-1.shtml
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4.Jul 2005 - 18:41
I hope you will enjoy Cornwall. Don't miss St Yves!
I just love Brittany and the Bretons. They should be our model! Real fighters. Had lots of talks (and few pints) with your fellow nationalists last year. Got to meet them after I noticed all the beautifull stickers on the walls of many small localities and near the roads. "Breton maitre chez toi" as they say! Wish the best to you and your party ! "Adsav mat eo" (correct me if I speak broken breton...).
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5.Jul 2005 - 10:12
http://www.stives-cornwall.co.uk/
Bring your stickers with you!
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6.Jul 2005 - 01:27
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3.Feb 2006 - 12:50
Excellent two tome book I’m reading at the moment and I would like to share some stuff for those interested.
1) In 1490 there was a peasant rebellion in Cornouailles in Briezh; I wonder if news of it and other uprisings reached Angoff and Flammank?
2) In 1583 Bertrand d'Argentré in his history of Brittany wrote:
"Brittany is not a simple fief of the crown of France, but a Duchy that has a unique origin distinct and older than the crown of France" and "This ancient royal principality is the last part of ancient Gaul".
Swap crown of England for France, Cornwall for Brittany, Britain for Gaul and it makes a familiar story.
3) The Britons that settled in the Armorican peninsula (to become Brittany) had a form of governance, chieftains called a "machtiern", in Cornish its maghtern and means sovereign. These machtiern controlled a collection of Parishes and apparently this type of governance came from Britain. So Cornwall at and after this time was probably broken up into a patchwork of little territories governed by machtiern. Could it have been these machtiern that Wessex left in place in Cornwall to govern but removed in Devonshire? Instead of invading and totally removing all forms of local governance leaving a hostile, headless and ungovernable alien people why not leave the tribal chiefs in place and force them to pay tribute.
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3.Feb 2006 - 15:01
With the large amounts of Bretons that were resident in Cornwall at the time it is inconceivable that they were not aware of Breton affairs. One of the reasons that the Cornish (along with the welsh) initially supported Henry Tudor was that it spent his exile along with the Dukes of Brittany.
However, he failed to support the duchy in the face of french aggression and that may well have been a contributary factor (along with the Stannary issues) that led to Cornish disillusionment with the tudors.
The term myghtern was being used right through the middle ages for king and is found in the Cornish plays which come from the 16th Century - even king arthur is a myghtern so it was probably used for both subkings and main rulers aswell. But certainly it seems likely that myghtern organisation could've carried on to the conquest. (maybe beyond?)
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18.Mar 2006 - 09:59
The PACE recommendation stated that, “Everyone should be free to define themselves as a member of a cultural “nation”, irrespective of their citizenship”. In response, the Intergroup commented that ‘Council of Europe member states should avoid defining themselves in exclusively ethnic terms, and should do their utmost to help their minorities, a source of enrichment, to flourish’.
Today, both the French and the British Governments still deny people from some of the Celtic countries to legally describe themselves in terms of their Celtic national identities in all areas of life.
This is particularly the case where Brittany and Cornwall are concerned.
The French Government have been repeatedly condemned by international organisations and other bodies, for their denial of these basic human rights to the Breton people.
Intergroup leader Mr Csaba Tabajdi, Member of the European Parliament, said that, This recommendation is of utter importance, representing a paradigm change in the protection of minorities in Europe. It contains a new, elaborate concept of nation.
The recommendation states that: The term “nation” is deeply rooted in peoples, culture and history and incorporates fundamental elements of their identity. “It is also closely linked to political ideologies, which have exploited it and adulterated its original meaning. Furthermore, in view of the diversity of languages spoken in European countries, a concept such as nation is quite simply not translatable in many countries where, at best, only rough translations are to be found in certain national languages.
http://www.agencebretagnepresse.com/fetch.php?id=3234
http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/AdoptedText/ta06/EREC1735.htm
http://www.eurominority.org/version/eng/maps-states2.asp?id_pays=45
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18.Mar 2006 - 10:06
It has long been the case that the Scots, Welsh, Irish (and Cornish) have had to endure stereotyping and racial innuendo, any rebuttal of which tends be dismissed as an overreaction. Fortunately, laws against racial discrimination can be used in the United Kingdom to challenge some of the more blatant examples.
http://www.agencebretagnepresse.com/fetch.php?id=3279
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6.May 2006 - 20:06
PAN-CELTIC APPEAL ISSUED OVER BRETON HUNGER STRIKE
The Celtic League has written to heads of government in Scotland,
Wales, Ireland and the Isle of Man urging them to lend their support
to achieving an amicable settlement of the dispute between the Dihun
organisation and Schools authorities in France over Breton language
teaching.
In a letter to Ireland's Taoiseach, Bertie Ahern, the League say:
"I draw your attention to the attached correspondence relating to
the situation of Breton language activist, Yannig Baron, who has been
on hunger strike now for two weeks in protest at hostility being displayed
by some Church school authorities in Brittany towards the teaching
of Breton.
You will see that the Celtic League have written to the French authorities
who have enormous influence in this matter, due to their direct funding
of Church schools, urging that the issue be settled amicably.
I am now writing to leaders of political and cultural groups in Scotland,
Ireland, Wales, Mannin and Kernow urging them to express support for
the Dihun Association and asking them to use whatever influence they
have to achieve a resolution of the issue so that Yannig Baron can
end his hunger strike.
I hope that the Irish government will lend its support."
Similar letters have gone to First Ministers in the other Celtic countries
highlighting the two week hunger strike of Yannig Baron. We have enclosed
reports of the dispute together with copies of a protest sent to the
French authorities by the Celtic League via the French Ambassador
to London.
In addition to contacting Scottish, Welsh, Irish and Manx government
leaders the League have also written to leaders of the main National
Parties in Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Mannin and Kernow asking that
their Parties also make statements of support.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celtic_league/message/1944
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7.Jun 2006 - 13:29
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This flag is called Koraz Du -- meaning black cross. It is the flag used at the time of the Independance untill 1532.
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7.Jun 2006 - 13:37
Concerning political parties in Brittany two parties are advocating a separation from France: Emgann and Adsav. Emgann, which is going though major turbulence, god knows if they will survive, has a marxist agenda and wishes for revolution and internationalism. Adsav is a more classic nationalist party and wants an independant state in the European Union.
http://www.emgann.org/
http://adsav.free.fr/
Other parties, including a small group called Parti Breton
wish for some sort of co-operation with France. Given the predatory nature of the French state, it is hard to see what it would mean for the saveguard of Breton interests
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7.Jun 2006 - 17:37