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cledry_maid Posted: 17.06.2006, 17:48



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Quotemodern art on the other hand is often a load of thrown together rubbish by talentless no-marks who don't have the skills to hold down a regular job.


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I.L.C.I.H.T.C Posted: 17.06.2006, 18:38



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I would suggest that modern art shares some of the problems with alternative therapies. While there are many dedicated therapists who take what they do seriously there are also charlatans. The same can be said of modern art; I have been collecting art for over thirty years and I know it's true that the 'Emperor's New Clothes' syndrome is pervasive in the art industry.

However it is simply indicative of a general, baseless contempt towards modern art to tar all modern artists with the same brush as those who seek to take advantage of the climate. Art is changing; it is much more about resonance than any visual style. Buying art for many collectors is determined by how a painting makes you feel, not what it looks like.

Of course the new direction art is taking will not suit everyone, and that is the beauty of living in somewhere like Cornwall. Unlike many other art centres throughout the UK and Europe, Cornwall has many styles of art gallery to choose from. If your taste in art is more suited to representational work then you will not have to travel far to see it.
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cledry_maid Posted: 17.06.2006, 19:58



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QuoteHowever it is simply indicative of a general, baseless contempt towards modern art to tar all modern artists with the same brush


And who, on this thread, has done that? :?
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I.L.C.I.H.T.C Posted: 17.06.2006, 20:40



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QuoteAnd who, on this thread, has done that?


If it's ok with you cledry_maid, and even if it's not, I will choose not to answer your puerile attempt at starting an argument with me. Knowing that you enjoy having the last word I will await your next statement, which I am quite certain, will be equally imbecilic.
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cledry_maid Posted: 17.06.2006, 21:15



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No-one on this thread, even the most vehement, has written off the entire modern art movement. I'm merely asking you to back up your statement. I have no interest in arguing wth you as I have no idea who you are but you do appear to be claiming all sorts of knowledge of the boards and its users and now you're even calling people names (I'm cut to the quick btw) I don't think you're a new user icon_smile Either that or you haven't actually read the thread. That might actually be more like it judging by your last question.
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jossiejojo Posted: 17.06.2006, 21:30



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I just wanted to respond to FlammNew's comment about the Emporers New Clothes.

Kierkegaard, the philosopher, talked about a leap of faith. You can sit on the fence and view life negatively as cynics tend to - or you can choose to believe in something that enhances the quality and meaning of your life.

Actually we all have things we believe in that to others seem irrational. For some, designer goods etc fulfil this function - my son has this wierd obsession with his iPod nano for example. But it makes him happy....
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cledry_maid Posted: 17.06.2006, 21:41



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QuoteKierkegaard, the philosopher, talked about a leap of faith. You can sit on the fence and view life negatively as cynics tend to - or you can choose to believe in something that enhances the quality and meaning of your life.


You see, I think that's quite an arrogant comment. We seem to be heading back to the old 'You just don't understand it' chestnut. You're assuming that a) Flamm is being unduly negative because he/she doesn't like yours/swifites work and b) That if he/she could just overcome that disbelief their life would be somehow 'enhanced'.
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jossiejojo Posted: 17.06.2006, 21:46



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I'm saying we all have things we choose to believe in that to others seem a bit irrational - I'm saying, by the sound of it, that Flamm has chosen not to 'believe' in modern art. Theres a difference between that and not understanding it. I'm not saying he doesnt understand it.
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cledry_maid Posted: 17.06.2006, 21:49



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FlammNew Posted: 17.06.2006, 22:53

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Quote'm saying we all have things we choose to believe in that to others seem a bit irrational - I'm saying, by the sound of it, that Flamm has chosen not to 'believe' in modern art. Theres a difference between that and not understanding it. I'm not saying he doesnt understand it.


Uh? What's to "believe" in, in modern art? Is it now some sort of faith? Is it perhaps something like Jesus' miracles which you cannot accept as true without throwing out rational thought?

QuoteKierkegaard, the philosopher, talked about a leap of faith. You can sit on the fence and view life negatively as cynics tend to - or you can choose to believe in something that enhances the quality and meaning of your life.


Oh, I believe in plenty of things. Viewing much of modern art as a pile of poop in no way makes my life negative or me into a negative person. I think that you quoting that perhaps says more about your view of my opinions than my opinions themselves.
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jossiejojo Posted: 17.06.2006, 23:43



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No I'm sure youre not negative. You probably have other things in your life that fulfil a similar 'function'....
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jossiejojo Posted: 17.06.2006, 23:48



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That is a similar function as modern art performs for other people. And yes - if you're an artist devoting your life to your art - like say Tracey Emin - you are putting all your eggs in a basket more fragile than eggs themselves. In other words I do think it is a form of faith. And the thing that artists themselves fear is losing the faith. Seeing the Emporer naked if you know what I mean...
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cledry_maid Posted: 18.06.2006, 08:50



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Or there's always the possibility that it's just a load of old shite.
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jossiejojo Posted: 18.06.2006, 19:31



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elegantly put
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FlammNew Posted: 18.06.2006, 21:57

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QuoteNo I'm sure youre not negative. You probably have other things in your life that fulfil a similar 'function'....


If you didn't think I'm negative, why the quote from K. about "cynics viewing life negatively"?

What "function"? Why "function" in quotes? Why not just say in plain English or Kernewek what you are trying to get across?
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