Well in the words of the 'great' Damien Hirst, “It's amazing what you can do with an E in A-level art, twisted imagination and a chainsaw.”
Diane - couldn't agree more
Ton - you're making an awful lot of assumptions about me - how do you know I'm not an artist? You haven't told us what your gallery idea is, so how can we put it down. It seems you're suggesting opening (yet another) gallery but yours will differ in that you won't be selling, just showcasing? How will you pay the bills?
I can give you a list of the artists I like, local, national, international, livng , dead (hell, some of them are even conceptual artists )but I don't think there's the bandwith to support it. Like many people who have been sucked in by these con men who call themselves 'artists' you sneer and smirk at anyone who doesn't apply any value to their childish scrawlings dressed up as meaningful work. Of course us philistines can't possibly understand the depth and worth of the statement the artist is trying to convey. Have you ever considered that Duchamp was taking the piss out of sheeple like you?
And I'd be very likely to visit your new gallery - once
TonT, there's no painting on the Rupert White site that any numpty with a pot of grey paint couldn't have produced. I can't paint and I could have produced the pointless grey paintings he does, therefore it's crap. I can also compose better pictures than him, and I don't give them the stupid names he does either.
One of the things about creating good art, the same as with running fast or being an expert particle physicist, is that it's a talent that not everyone has. Anyone who produces art that any other talentless wannabe could produce, is not an artist. Anyone who can produce art that stands out from the crowd and is of a standard that only other good artists could produce, is an artist. Neither Swiftie nor White produce anything that any other artistically-challenged member of the population couldn't have produced, therefore it's nothing special and shouldn't be lauded as something wonderful.
I think I'm going to scrape up the next roadkill I find, put it in a tank of minestrone and call it "Square Guild Banana" and see if the Tate will exhibit it. It'll only cost £10K for anyone who's interested.
So, if someone can do something that no other person else can do - that someone is an artist, right? You want to be impressed... if you can't do it then it good... man - why not drag another cliché howling from the vaults!
Your comments are so basic and common; you probably read the daily mail too.
Cledry – you are an artist? Doubtful – I’ve been reading your 800+ postings on here. It seems pretty obvious who you are and what you think. However, I’d like to see some of your work, do you have anything to show?
Just been reading up on Swiftie's bio - seems he went to the Royal College of Art in London, I'm confused... how did he manage to get into that college by being so crap?
Cledry - Did you do the the Royal College as well?
ok, you have convinced me, Cornwall doesn't need (yet another) gallery... I'll not bother trying then, I'll work in Tesco's, can you put a good word in for me?
rofl - you're a wag Ton - any more generalisations up your sleeve? I never said I was an artist btw - just challenged your assumption that I'm not.
Let's hear from you why swiftie and white are 'artists' then. Where is the validity ion their work? What is it they're trying to 'message' to us Could it be that he's just another cog in the Banksy rip off machine?
BTW - why did you waste your time reading my posts? None of them will tell you either what I feel about art or what my involvement is. And you still haven't told us about your new gallery.
If you're so easily put off perhaps it wasn't the project for you anyway.
I read his biog as well and was aware that he went ot the RC. I don't have an art degree, don't want one, fine art ain't my thang. Having a degree from the royal college doesn't mean someone is talented. He may well be the most talented artist in the world but the work he is producing at the moment is lame, hyped up, cheap garbage. I suppose every generation thinks what they're doing is new and exciting but in truth it's been done. It's all a bit 80's really.
Quote: you're a wag Ton - any more generalisations up your sleeve? I never said I was an artist btw - just challenged your assumption that I'm not.
No idea what a wag is... and I never had a assumption you were not an artist, it seems you made the assumption.
Maybe you should read my post a little slower, take it in, then comment... check them over... ask yourself why you might to bully your opinions on others. Seems to be a running trait on this forum. work
That’s funny, I happen to know Banksy very well, I did some PR (yes, he uses PR!!!!) for him a couple of year’s back, nice guy... very paranoid.
I was joking about being put off, I'm still going to do it... maybe we'll even meet there and you'll be less sarcastic in person, no forum to hide behind... what’s to say about the gallery other then I'm opening a gallery... the type of work I show will make it different from the others... of course work will be for sale, wally… if people want it they can have it, nothing forced though.
I'm guessing by 80's you are referring to Basquiat, Haring and the New Yorker’s of that time. Yes, I can see an influence there in his work – so what?
My god, he's suddenly developed an opinion! Has your mum taken back the use of her keyboard?
I'm just as sarcastic in real life my hansome - maybe more so
I also like Banksy's work - he appears to have integrity, inteligence and something real to say.
And could I draw your attention to this statement?
And I wasn't alluding to any of those people with my comment about the 80's. What I meant was that any old bod who felt they had something to say whether they had the talent to back it up or no was encouraged to 'splurge' their innards onto paper/canvas/cowhide. It was a decade of ultimate self absorption and unfortunately some people are still clinging onto that. Fair do's but the pompous gits whose living has depended on pedestalisng these bratty teenagers of the 'art' world have ensured that they have retained too much credibility and the baby has been well and truly thrown out with the bath water. The whole thing smacks of a besotted parent showing everyone the insides of their babies shitty nappy for us all to coo over.
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)but I don't think there's the bandwith to support it. Like many people who have been sucked in by these con men who call themselves 'artists' you sneer and smirk at anyone who doesn't apply any value to their childish scrawlings dressed up as meaningful work. Of course us philistines can't possibly understand the depth and worth of the statement the artist is trying to convey. Have you ever considered that Duchamp was taking the piss out of sheeple like you?
