err...... such as why you feel the work of swiftie and rupert white deserve the accolade of artist? Such as what separates swifties work from that of an angsty tenager in a gcse class or the work of rupert white from a painter and decorator? That'll do for a start as you still haven't answered it. I'm guessing you're either a troll or a student
"So basic and common", what kind of talk is that? Did Daddy promise you a gallery of your very own now you've outgrown your pony, as you sat on the veranda sipping Pimms?
I'd love to hear you explain the logic that links someone's artistic opinion to their selection of newspaper.
On second thoughts, why don't you go away and play and leave the forum to the grown-ups.
Does it really matter what I think about those artists to you, why do you care what I think? Do you want me to try and change your mind? It seems pretty made up. I’m not a student, no… not a troll either.
Like I said, Swiftie is new to me, I heard about him (or her) and was intrigued to know more… I’d like to see his stuff in a gallery to fully see how I feel about it. From what I’ve seen on-line so far I like how it makes me feel, and what it makes me think, personal… it’s also very funny. I guess it’s subjective, it’s what I get out of it that matters, it’s the same for everything… a film you hate is a film I love… it’s also important to ask yourself why an artist causes you to ask so many questions, that you are writing in this tread plus your questions about the artists could be taken as underhand interest in them – and that’s fine.
Some pieces I like more than others of course, that’s the way it is. I like White’s photo’s very much, they make me think about how odd nature is and how funny it can be, the work is full of humour… oddly, for artists so different I can see a lot of resemblances in their work. I’ve seen White’s work about, I enjoy the way it is involved and uninvolved at the same time.
I came on here looking for people to share their art with me, nothing has happened though, I’m thinking this is the wrong place to look, also, you (both) seem to be the most prolific posters on here, both with plenty to say – is there anyone else out there?
As for the ‘title’ of an artist, I don’t really see it that way, it’s not a job, it’s a way of living for these people, I know a lot of artists who don’t see themselves as having jobs, they stand outside that… but I do believe that artists play an important role in society, they force us to question the things in our life that we avoid, they are good for the soul. Why is it that a lot of people are talking about Swiftie in Cornwall right now? I’ve never heard of an artist living in Cornwall that gets such diverse opinions from entirely opposed ends of the spectrum. Is an artist that is getting people to debate and discuss an artist who is doing his job correctly?
How you define ‘talent’?
I’d never say an artist was ‘crap’; it’s a meaningless remark to make, when talking about why you don’t like a certain artists work you should probably talk about yourself foremost
Quote: i'd love to hear you explain the logic that links someone's artistic opinion to their selection of newspaper.
On second thoughts, why don't you go away and play and leave the forum to the grown-ups.
"artistic opinion"? when did that happen?, nothing but cheap one-liners so far (well, everyone is laughing)... if anyone's being childish here it's you.
My guess at your reading material comes form the fact that your commets come straight out of it, word for word.
Why not try and form an opinion for all one your own. Talking of my Dad, you sound just like him,
You've never heard of kurt jackson then? He's a love him or hate him artist. Alfred Wallis conjoured up the same conversation in people. Swiftie is neither new or exciting IMO.
Btw - the fact that I'm posting such a lot on this thread bears no relation to the 'inspirational' qualities of swifties' work - I'm bored and it's fun to have someone to debate with between spurts of work.
You have demanded in no uncerain terms that me and others put forward our opinions on these what would you call them then if not artists? yet, when it comes to you putting forward your own opinion suddenly it doesn't matter.
I'm quite happy to label things as crap - in the literal sense of course - it's succinct and everyone knows where they are I could of course wax lyrical about the juxtaposition of the pieces as art against the ambiguity of their childish and seemingly clumsy qualities leading the viewer to assume that the maker has no artistic integrity but I prefer 'crap'. We'll have none of that pseudo nonsense here me laddo
Well that shows how little you know, and how your own prejudices about Daily Mail readers is clouding your judgement. Not that it's any of your business, but I do not and have never read the Daily Mail, so it's all my own opinion. Got a snappy comeback about that?
Typical arty bull****. How often have I heard nonentity would-be artists claim that "you can't call art 'crap' because you just haven't understood it", well what utter drivel that is. Art like everything else in life has levels of good and bad, and strangely it's usually the crap artists who try to make out that no art is crap. Wonder why that is? Failing to hold down any other kind of job is not reason enough to try your hand at art - a degree of talent is required too.
No, it's the most childish art form. Well, apart from Swiftie's daubings, because he's an adult and should know better than to try to pass it off as "art".
And if saying that this sort of art is rubbish sounds like your Dad, then I'd like to shake his hand.
Admin? I thought you said you knew everything about me from reading my 800+ posts. Obviously not. You're a bit judgemental arent you Ton hun? Daily Mail readers, admin workers? Can they not have valid views on art? Can they not be artists themselves?
Childrens art may well be the purest form but usually when done by children! My kids artwork is ace but I wouldn't be hanging it on the walls of a gallery and expecting people to pay quids for it. Nor do I ask them what political, philosophical or abstract point is they're trying to make with it.
btw - here's a definition of talent:
Hmm - still can't apply that to swiftie I'm afraid
Ton, you're very quick to judge our political views, our careers, how about you let us know what it is you do because you do seem to be suggesting that you're more informed and experienced than either of us. I'm not trying to convert anyone - you like that drivel, fine but don't expect us to cow tow to you and your sneering assumption that we somehow don't understand it for whatever reason you can make up.
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He's a love him or hate him artist. Alfred Wallis conjoured up the same conversation in people. Swiftie is neither new or exciting IMO.