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Modern art in Cornwall

TonT Posted: 12.06.2006, 16:18



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Does anyone here have any information on Swiftie, a Cornish artist I keep hearing about, but when I ask for more details they never seem to know anything other than "draws on walls" (I've never seem any) and "makes little books" (i've seen none of these either)

Anyone know anything?

I'd like to start up a new gallery in Cornwall at some point, I'm looking for young new artists to think about showing - websites welcome folks!
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FlammNew Posted: 12.06.2006, 16:32

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"Artist"? :shock: You've got to be kidding.

Load of rubbish that the art world is too scared to describe for what it is: talentless, childish scribble.

When you look at the work of some of the genius artists to come out of the Newlyn and St Ives schools, how people can even describe someone who produces this junk with the same word is beyond me, and demeans proper, talented artists.

(I'm not against modern art, and I'm not against abstract art: I'm against crap art.)
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TonT Posted: 12.06.2006, 17:33



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Thanks for the link, it lead me to other's so that good... didn't really think I'd find anything on-line, but surprise surprise! It's all there.

Here some others I've been exploring... found a contact for him, so I'll get on that.

http://www.vitreous.biz/gallery/solo/solo_swiftie.php

http://winterdrawings.com/

FlammNew, can you explain to me what you think "crap art" is please?

Not a dig, just interested in your thoughts.
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cledry_maid Posted: 12.06.2006, 18:12



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We don't need any more galleries in kernow - the place is awash with them. As for swiftie - take a trip to any gcse art class and you'll see much the same standard.
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TonT Posted: 12.06.2006, 18:37



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No, Kernow is awash with shops pretending to be galleries!

I plan to open a gallery... selling is not an issue... just showcasing new, interesting, thought provoking art.

People in St Ives have been painting money for too long.
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cledry_maid Posted: 12.06.2006, 18:57



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Shops pretending to be galleries eh? How is yours going to differ then? And there's more to kernow than snives icon_biggrin Is swiftie thought provoking? Yeah, I thought about it, he's crap.
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TonT Posted: 12.06.2006, 19:12



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Why are you so negative?

Your mind is closed.

"crap" is not a very good word - I don't think it explains very much to anyone, it just lets people know what kind of person you are, not what the art work is like.

What art gets your seal of approval then? Do you even know any artists? Do you even like art?

Maybe thats the problem?

Please explain, this is all good research for me.
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cledry_maid Posted: 12.06.2006, 19:23



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QuoteDo you even know any artists? Do you even like art?


icon_lol icon_lol icon_lol

That's one of the funniest things I've been asked on here.

Let's turn the question around - why do you think Swiftie is deserving of the tile 'Artist'? Why isn't he crap?
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TonT Posted: 12.06.2006, 19:30



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Lame.

Try harder.
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cledry_maid Posted: 12.06.2006, 19:31



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Can't answer the question?
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cledry_maid Posted: 12.06.2006, 19:46



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Ton - you've asked an awful lot of questions without giving any answers at all. Why is that?
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FlammNew Posted: 12.06.2006, 21:57

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QuoteFlammNew, can you explain to me what you think "crap art" is please?


I thought you said that you'd already followed the link to Swiftie's creations?

"Obligatory Red Dwarf quote"Rimmer: How did you get into Art College?

Lister: Easy, I failed my A-levels and applied.
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cledry_maid Posted: 12.06.2006, 23:43



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Oh dear, I think we scared him off icon_frown
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TonT Posted: 13.06.2006, 00:06



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I've only just seen Swiftie’s stuff for the first time, and only online. I'm interested in what it looks like in the flesh so to speak – so far I like what I see, I’m still digesting it. I find it surprising for people to disregard it for ‘crap’ so quickly. Haven’t you ever heard an album that you didn’t think much of, but now you love?

I'm not sure about his stuff yet, like I said, I've only heard people talking about it... some good comment, some bad... I thought I'd find out for myself.

From what I've seen online It looks like he is clearly into what he is doing... and it makes me want to know more about what it is he is trying to say... or not say...

I like a lot of artists, some I hate, but that why I like them, if you get me... art should get under the skin and force a mirror up against your own life...

Flamm - I've read that quote elsewhere on this forum, anything new?

Cledry, sorry to ask you so many questions - it's just that you sound like you have an opinion but are willing to go further that 'it's crap'. I'm just wondering why, that's all.

Also, just because there are many galleries in Cornwall doesn't mean another can't be opened. It feels like my idea is being put down because.... well, I don't know why, what difference would it make to you?... I doubt you'd come a see the work anyway, right?

Here's another artist I'm into right now.

Another one to slate and misunderstand I guess.

http://www.rupertwhite.co.uk/
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Diane Posted: 13.06.2006, 01:03

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Call it crap, call it trash, its rubbish. What is he trying to say? "Come on you mugs, pretend this is good stuff, then the rest will follow like sheep and make my name in the artistic world" Doh. We have a lot of artists and gallery's here too, so far I've managed to miss seeing stuff like that, maybe there's none like that here, [I hope] icon_rolleyes
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