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Penwithian_in_California Posted: 28.07.2006, 16:05



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I've never made fags a habit, but I'd never dream of bumming one. My mother taught me 'never a borrower nor a lender be'.

In all seriousness, English is a language divided by its similarities. I've had to re-think the way I say some things, simply to save myself having to over-explain myself.
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Penwithian_in_California Posted: 28.07.2006, 16:06



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That's nothing, when I was at Uni. I befriended an American exchange student. One day in the pub a bloke came up and asked him if he could 'bum a fag'. Now my friend had learned what bum meant over here so he said with a bewildered look on his face "whatever makes you happy man" wondering why the bloke had asked his permission...lol...it was priceless.


For all those who came to page 2 directly, I guess I should include the context of my reply!
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Diane Posted: 29.07.2006, 02:58

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We don't have dinner at all, it's breakfast, lunch and tea, most times, but if we go out for an evening meal, it's dinner. As a child we had dinner lunch time, and on Sundays always had a roast dinner and what would have been considered high tea, about 5pm. sandwiches and cakes. mum would buy 6 fancy cakes and my brother and I would fight over who had what. never have a Sunday roast these days, but usually have a Wednesday roast most weeks.
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Hunlef Posted: 29.07.2006, 22:35

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This is all very good interesting stuff but it doesn't appear to have much to do with the title of this thread, the Cornish accent.

All to often on the streets, the local Cornish accent, in all of its forms, is being anglicised (yes, Stroppygit, anglicised) by the incessant use of either the Queen's English, as on the EBC National News, or approximations of the London vernacular as found on that dirge of a soap-opera, Eastenders.

It is unacceptable that almost no Cornish accents are to be heard either on Radio Cornwall, aka, Radio England, and its slightly less Anglo-centric, "independent" rival, Pirate FM. Of course, you will hear a plethora of other regional accents, including Ulster, Scottish, Cockney, Geordie etc etc but never a Cornish one. On Pirate, you will even hear adverts for that most Cornish of comestibles, the pasty, which is invariably voiced in a a plummy or, even, a Mancunian accent.

No wonder our children are sounding like foreigners! It's time for something to be done about it!
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cledry_maid Posted: 29.07.2006, 22:54



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Personally I think I sound fairly Cornish but when people speak to me they say they're surprised I don't have an accent.
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cledry_maid Posted: 29.07.2006, 22:56



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QuoteIt is unacceptable that almost no Cornish accents are to be heard either on Radio Cornwall, aka, Radio England, and its slightly less Anglo-centric, "independent" rival, Pirate FM. Of course, you will hear a plethora of other regional accents, including Ulster, Scottish, Cockney, Geordie etc etc but never a Cornish one. On Pirate, you will even hear adverts for that most Cornish of comestibles, the pasty, which is invariably voiced in a a plummy or, even, a Mancunian accent.


I wouldn't mind doing voice overs for Radio Cornwall etc - I wonder how you go about it? I'll be one of the voices heard on the headphones at truro museum soon - I'm quite chuffed about that icon_smile
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Hunlef Posted: 29.07.2006, 23:35

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Personally I think I sound fairly Cornish but when people speak to me they say they're surprised I don't have an accent.


That's why you have got the job of museum voice-over operative. You probably stand a good chance of getting a job as a newscaster on Radio England also.
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cledry_maid Posted: 29.07.2006, 23:52



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Errr - I've got the 'job' of museum voice over as an old cornish lady character from a new play about the downfall of mining and community so no cigar for you I'm afraid - she's very cornish icon_biggrin

People saying I don't have a cornish accent says more about them than me. I do have a cornish accent but I don't sound like someone out of Wycliffe or Doc Martin.

Perhaps you should wait to hear my accent before casting nasty-urtiums.

I was going to say welcome to the forums but maybe I'll hang fire icon_wink
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Hunlef Posted: 30.07.2006, 00:37

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Errr - I've got the 'job' of museum voice over as an old cornish lady character from a new play about the downfall of mining and community so no cigar for you I'm afraid - she's very cornish


But you stated earlier that people don't think you have a Cornish accent. My facetious comment merely drew attention to the fact that the museum would look favourably upon that. You made no mention of the character you are being asked to portray.

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People saying I don't have a cornish accent says more about them than me


Perhaps.

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I do have a cornish accent but I don't sound like someone out of Wycliffe or Doc Martin


Thank goodness for that!

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Perhaps you should wait to hear my accent before casting nasty-urtiums.


All I have to go on are your comments. You said that people don't think you have an accent. What conclusion am I to draw?

Anyway, I accept that I might have been a little quick of the mark and I offer you an apology with a very good wish that you will be successful at the museum. Hope that calms things down and we can start off on the right foot!
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xxxxxx Posted: 30.07.2006, 01:08



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All to often on the streets, the local Cornish accent, in all of its forms, is being anglicised (yes, Stroppygit, anglicised) by the incessant use of either the Queen's English, as on the EBC National News, or approximations of the London vernacular as found on that dirge of a soap-opera, Eastenders.

Note the unwarranted insult..

Now where in this thread did I post anything that merited that? In fact I think I have provided some appropriate links here.

Ah well, I suppose if I'm to debate with Cornish nationalists, then that's all I can expect..


Now to your points...

Quoteby the incessant use of either the Queen's English, as on the EBC National News, or approximations of the London vernacular as found on that dirge of a soap-opera, Eastenders

My suggection would be then that you switch off teh BBC if you are so offended and affected by it, and only listen to this....

Cornish language broadcasting and lessons

Oh sorry, you wouldn't want to listen to that as it comes from the "EBC".

My only advice then would be to set up your own radio and TV stations and only broadcast in Cornish, or English with a Cornish dialect.

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It is unacceptable that almost no Cornish accents are to be heard either on Radio Cornwall, aka, Radio England, and its slightly less Anglo-centric, "independent" rival, Pirate FM. Of course, you will hear a plethora of other regional accents, including Ulster, Scottish, Cockney, Geordie etc etc but never a Cornish one. On Pirate, you will even hear adverts for that most Cornish of comestibles, the pasty, which is invariably voiced in a a plummy or, even, a Mancunian accent.

Cornish language

Cornish language lessons

Cornish dialect

Oh, sorry, that's from the "EBC" again...

You'll definitely have to set up your own station..

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No wonder our children are sounding like foreigners! It's time for something to be done about it!

And we all know exactly what you are going to do about it, don't we? icon_biggrin
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Hunlef Posted: 30.07.2006, 01:27

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Patronising pratt!
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Hunlef Posted: 30.07.2006, 01:27

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Oh, sorry, that was another unwarranted insulted - NOT!
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Hen Posted: 30.07.2006, 02:41



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With globalisation rapidly occuring, accents will become rarer.

Colloquialisms, on the otherhand, are an easy way to hang on to your language heritage.

Of course you could all make sure that you don't leave Cornwall or communicate to any non-Cornish. But that would be very difficult. Unless it is on this Board where you only talk nicely to Cornish and insult those from other countries. icon_biggrin

I say, I say. That's a joke son.

No. Truly it is.


Welcome Hunlef. Nice of you to join us here. Or as I would say in my home town, you'll be apples.
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xxxxxx Posted: 30.07.2006, 03:02



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Patronising pratt!

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Oh, sorry, that was another unwarranted insulted - NOT!


Oh dear, all my points shot down with such a barrage of factual evidence, all presented with such flair and erudition.. icon_lol icon_lol icon_lol
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Hunlef Posted: 30.07.2006, 09:56

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Factual evidence is something Stroppygit wouldn't recognise if it landed on his English nationalist head!

He thinks it sufficient to merely disagree with anything remotely associated with Cornish national minority issues without providing any substance whatsoever. Pontifications are simply not enough mee'andsome, you really do need to try harder.

Perhaps, he might be inclined to start with the drafters of international charters and conventions who, in his warped opinion, have seemingly got things so completely wrong. Let's start with the Council of Europe which recognises the Cornish language, along with the Brit government which does the same. Let's not forget the human rights principles of freedom of expression and association - please explain your warped position on these issues in regard to the Cornish minority. I've looked at the drivel in so many of your postings - I use the word cautiously as it is clear that he tries very hard. However, it is interesting to note that he takes an anti-Cornish stance automatically, even in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence.

Unless cogent answers with supporting evidence is adduced, I am afraid that poor old Stroppygit will continue to portray himself as a militant opposed to even the most basic of international human rights principles.

"Pot calling the kettle black, methinks"!

If he doesn't like the Cornish, why does he not join a forum which supports his opinions? It is, IMHO, completely bizarre that someone who now lives in Australia, who claims (?) to be Welsh and who articulates English nationalist sympathies (without adducing a shred of substance) now spends most of his waking life articulating anti-Cornish drivel.

Wake up, Stroppygit, get a life!
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