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Funding for Homeless
Mike Posted: 13.12.2004, 23:27

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last visit: 07.10.08 		Can anyone comment on the figures reported here?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/4093297.stm

To me the monies seem a bit disproportionate seeing Devon has approximately only twice the population of Cornwall, although the report might not be a true reflection and I'm certainly not an expert not living locally. Also when you see reports like this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/3711244.stm

Me - I see you do good work in this area - do you have any comments?
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nxylas Posted: 14.12.2004, 19:25



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last visit: 09.10.07 		Well, I suspect that Plymouth has the bulk of the homeless people, being the main urban centre. But still....
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xxxxxx Posted: 14.12.2004, 20:29



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last visit: 27.03.08 		I used to be a drinking buddy of Dave, the geezer who ran "Breadline", and worked with clients with "severe and enduring" mental health problems in Penzance and St Ives, so I know how much good the organisation did. On more than one occasion "Breadline" gave hope and shelter to clients of ours.

Penzance and St Ives tends to get a number of life's more unfortunate people. Due to the mild climate, and it being the "end of the line", a great number of homeless and mentally ill people end up there. A number far disproportionate to its size.

The option if Breadline closes? Well the nearest place to Penzance with suitable facilities is Plymouth. Give them a train voucher and ship them out.

If they do not want to go? Then on the streets of Penzance they'll end up.

The mark of how civilised a country is can be gained from the way it treats its less fortunate.

How much time and OUR money will now be wasted ensuring that sicko's like countrysider, and his sadistic kind, do not break the law and continue persecuting and killing wild animals for fun?
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Me Posted: 14.12.2004, 20:47

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last visit: 03.04.08 		I dont feel I know enough to say much on this matter, but considering the rising cost or absorbetantly high price of house prices, if it wasn't for families then many 'Cornish folk' would end up in a bad situation. You can't sweep away a situation by just shipping them somewhere altogether - do people remember the shanty towns and squalid conditions in South Africa or how a lot of people (post-war period?) got shipped to places like Bodmin)?

You have to distinguish between homelssness and poverty - the poverty line is always changing and these people are as much in need as others. And then you have the issue of the local economy and national schemes where it's not just a matter of finding people shelter and homes, but also a case of re-training them with new skills to do the jobs that are out there.

See where I'm coming from? It's not just about giving money to an organisation, it has much wider implications and touches on issues that have casued heated arguments before (please don't let this thread turn into another house price thread).

Anyway, I'm running the marathon because it's a good challenge and the reason I chose Shelter is becuase it's a charity I believe in and one I want to support.

If you'd like to sponsor me in the London Marathon by donating to Shelter then visit here:
https://www.bmy...y.com/a1surf

Shelters website can be found here:
http://www.shelter.org.uk

Off to cook another pasta meal now.... icon_frown
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Me Posted: 14.12.2004, 20:50

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last visit: 03.04.08 		P.S. There seem to be three broad catergories of people - regardless of whether it's homelessness or drug addicts etc:
i) There are those that want help and will succeed given the chance.
ii) People who need the support and direction an organisation can provide.
iii) and some that are unfortunate enough to have gone past that point of no return.
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Masterclass Posted: 14.12.2004, 22:14



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last visit: 28.09.08 		I'm going to say now that I am NOT having a go, but there are a couple of statements there that I'd consider rephrasing. sharpish.
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Me Posted: 15.12.2004, 00:39

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last visit: 03.04.08 		Mclass - Did you mean me or stroppy?

Didn't think I wrote anything controversial apart from some thought-provoking arguments but have tidied it up.
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