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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 16.12.2004, 12:45

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A two pronged posting

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/4097673.stm

1 why does the government (therefore the BBC) keep providing us with statistics for the "South West". I don't know about you but i am Cornish and i would like to know the figures, this time for faith, for Cornwall, not Cornwall and Devon. Would it be to hard to split the figures and provide a set each? i don't think so.
For me it is just another example of the powers that be trying to blend us into either a Devonwall or a larger SW region for the purpose of making petty Little bureaucrats lives easier.

2 So what of God and the Cornish? I see some academics have translated the new testament into Cornish and ceremonially presented a copy to some important English vicar or other.
Well yes i suppose it is very symbolic and i know many Cornish are proud to be Methodist and see this as another difference between us and the English.

However would not the time of these academics been better spent on creating a thousand easy readers to promote the language and help educate people.

What about secular Cornwall and the athiest Cornish! Personally i could give them a list of books much more worthy of their time starting with Darwin's "On the Origins of the Species" moving on through Nietzsche's "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" even that hoary old chestnut Kapital would be of more value.
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nxylas Posted: 16.12.2004, 17:08



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I got a "page not found" message when I tried to follow this link.
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abednego Posted: 16.12.2004, 17:18



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The figures for the 2001 census for Cornwall have been free online from ONS (Office for National Statistics) for many months. Try http://neighbourhood.statistics. gov.uk and then seek.

From this site you can find for free the figures for religion, housing, work, education, etc for the whole of Cornwall and for each district and each ward. You can even get them for areas smaller than a ward, about 200 houses called an output area.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 16.12.2004, 17:28

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Yeah i know but why do the BBC refer to Devon and Cornwall statistics on the Cornwall news site?

As to the vote on this site, is it not time to totally disestablish the church from the state and completely secularise all schools, Cornish, English or otherwise.
Lets not talk of a church of Cornwall and lets rid ourselves of the church of England.
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xxxxxx Posted: 16.12.2004, 22:35



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Lets rid ourselves of the church. When we grow into a mature society instead of cowering, fearful, children singing songs to the god/bogeyman, maybe then we'll have peace for all.

As for the "Southwest" issue. Lumping groups of minor counties together makes statistical sense for getting a broader picture. I wonder if the have the same whinging Minnines in the NorthEast, SouthWales, West Scotland, etc?
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abednego Posted: 17.12.2004, 00:30



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I'm afraid I think you have an unconvincing grievance here. The data for Cornwall is available online for free and in vast detail and has been for months.

Also, the BBC site you refer to has a click link to ONS and thence through Neighbourhood to the data for Cornwall.

The British government, to whom you refer, has nothing to do with the presentation of these census figures by ONS or the BBC.
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AndyQ Posted: 17.12.2004, 09:08



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I agree with the first part of Stroppy's posting, but as for the second, well i think you all know by now.
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Stonefly Posted: 17.12.2004, 09:55

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Stroppygob talks of maturity, then follows up by calling people names....mature indeed. (Incidentally, can anyone tell me what a 'Minnine' actually is?)
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 17.12.2004, 13:56

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abednego the fact remains that the BBC provide figures for Devonwall on a news site that is just for Cornwall and it is by no means the only occasion. If it is so easy to get the figures for Cornwall then why has the BBC not done this?

Andy and Stroppy hear hear!!! Who has the stomach to live without god and fairy tales?
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xxxxxx Posted: 17.12.2004, 22:42



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"Stonefly"Stroppygob talks of maturity, then follows up by calling people names....mature indeed. (Incidentally, can anyone tell me what a 'Minnine' actually is?)


Oh dear, I try to inject a little humour into a salient point, and make a spelling error, and Stonefly adresses these rather than the point being made.

When I lived in South Wales, we didn't have moaning Minny's whining on about wanting to be called Carmarthenshire, or Pembrokeshire, or Glamorganshire, South Wales was seen for what it was, a locality.

It seems to me that there is nothing Cornwall related that we do not get a great whine going on about here.... :P
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Mike Posted: 17.12.2004, 23:49

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The names, status and subdivisions of those places have changed so much in the past 30 years or more that it must be confusing even to the local Tafs, so I'm not surprised they are best treated as an amorphous lump.
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Masterclass Posted: 18.12.2004, 00:18



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Why not get just think 'Oh, if x% is Y and Cornwall's population is Z', then work it out from there?
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AndyQ Posted: 18.12.2004, 12:05



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Of course!
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Masterclass Posted: 18.12.2004, 18:19



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That's why I'm good at what I do.
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AndyQ Posted: 18.12.2004, 22:40



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What falling off push bikes in a drunken stupor!
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