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nige999 Posted: 13.08.2006, 22:17



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Where I spent a fair chunk of my childhood.

I have a question about said village and wonder if anyone can help.

I am a bit of a collector of antique maps and one shows Sithney as Synny.

This is a very old map (at least 300 years old) and is genuine, not a cheap fake.

However the engraver of this map was well known for copying the work of John Speed and adding little details and/or embellishments of his own to make his maps seem like originals.

So I am a bit suspicious of the use of Synny for Sithney. But saying that his usual changes were more conspicuous than a tiny little village.

Has anyone ever heard of, or seen, the use of Synny for Sithney ?

If I remember correctly (it was a long time ago) older people in the village used a similar pronunciation when I was a child.

But that just might have been the local dialect - I am no expert.

Anyone ?
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lyskerrys Posted: 13.08.2006, 22:26



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Maybe the mapmaker had only ever heard the pronounciation "Synny" and so wrote it down that way. There's plenty of times mapmakers (OS) have got names wrong in Kernow and we've been stuck with the consequences because "if the OS says so it must be right". icon_frown
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nige999 Posted: 14.08.2006, 15:37



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Could well be.

All - How should Sithney be pronounced ?
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Coady Posted: 14.08.2006, 15:44

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Like "SITH-nee" its pronounced pretty well as its spelled, with slight emphasis on the first syllable.
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FlammNew Posted: 14.08.2006, 15:49

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Sithney Fair however moved to where Goldsithney now is: "Goldsithney" came from Cornish "Goel Sithney" = Sithney Fair.
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Coady Posted: 14.08.2006, 16:11

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Goldsithney is one of the few Cornish towns that still have an annual 'feast', although now its called St Hilary Feast. Looks like a village that specialised in hosting other places traditions! Its even pronounced "GolSITHnee" which sounds very much like Flamm's explanation.

I THINK St Hilary Feast is held on the Monday following the Sunday closest to January 13th, but I'm not sure, havent been to it for a few years...drink driving laws etc. etc.
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Hevva Posted: 07.09.2006, 20:20



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Goldsithney "Goel Sithney" the old pronunciation used to be "Gol synny" according to the old folk when I was a kid (1950s)
I think Coady is mixing up St Hilary feast with Goldsithney Charter Fair held on the first Saturday in August.
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Coady Posted: 07.09.2006, 20:32

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Not really, two different things. St Hilary Feast is the Monday after the saints day. The Hunt have a meet in the village, and the pubs do a roaring trade all day, some local people practically open their houses to visitors all day. (or used to...)

Graham.
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Hevva Posted: 07.09.2006, 20:43



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Graham you are right they are two quite different things. the pubs do not do as roaring a trade as they used to by a long way.
The Charter Fair has now moved to St Pirians Hall and playing field and not in the main street as it always used to be. Because of costs (closing the raod, insurance, etc.
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Brian Posted: 07.09.2006, 21:52



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I used to live in Sithney, it's full of yuppies now.

There used to be a pub in Sithney once.
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KingMark Posted: 07.09.2006, 22:43

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Until quite recently Sithney used to have a Treacle mine... in the Triangle by Merthyr Close.

It became a local landmark, so much so that a visiting paramedic was once given the instructions "from Parc-an-Ithan turn right at the treacle mine, then..."

"Sorry Sir, I thought you said 'Treacle Mine'!"

"Yep, thas right..."

Royal Cornwall was once held at Sithney I think...
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Brian Posted: 08.09.2006, 09:31



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The treacle mine was in Sithney and it was a great landmark, I wonder what happened to it?

The last Royal Cornwall Show to be held outside of Wadebridge was at Antron Farm, near Sithney. The show used to rotate between Cornish farms.

The the Riddles saw the light and offered up their farm and became rich from doing so.
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nige999 Posted: 12.09.2006, 18:46



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QuoteMerthyr Close.


And thats where I used to live !
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nige999 Posted: 12.09.2006, 18:47



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QuoteGoldsithney "Goel Sithney" the old pronunciation used to be "Gol synny" according to the old folk when I was a kid (1950s)


Interesting...............
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