Beach Ices at Praa Sands
Ice meeting the sand at the base of the low cliff behind Praa Sands Beach, West Cornwall. 6th January 2009....
Icicles at Trewellard Bottoms
Water seeping through a wall is turned to icicles, ate Trewellard Bottoms, where Geevor Mine meets the sea....
Winter Sunset at Levant
A late afternoon scene, at Levant Mine, West Cornwall. 7th January 2009....
Winter at Levant
The old electricity generator building, at Levant Mine, West Cornwall, during the recent cold snap. 7th Jnauary 2009....
Almost all of Cornwall's half million people have a British passport and a percentage of these think this counts for something and a percentage would disagree which is why, for the sake of accuracy alone, it's important for people here not to have to choose between British and Cornish.
Yes, to me that's perfect. If one plays with exclusive types of definitions, it p1sses people off, they feel excluded and nothing they answer from there on in is accurate. They would probably think they were being lined up for deportation if the categories got too specialised.
I agree too. One shouldn't have to negate British for something else. Some here claim one can be Cornish and English, others that one can't, but surely nobody could rightly claim that one must be British or Cornish.
None of the above qualify as being ethnic minorities, so I did not forget. In case you have forgotten, the English are an ethnic majority! There is a whole world of difference.
If you disagree, you had better take it up with the Council of Europe and the European Union and tell these international institutions where they have got things so badly wrong as they boh recognise that minorities without kin-state such as the Cornish do exist.
There is absolutely nothing defeatist about my point of view at all - it is a point of view, generally recognised, that implies that stateless minorities have a legitimate role to play in society. It is the Anglo-centric point of view that is in the end, defeatist.
As for the web-site - well, there are several. yes, Eurominority is one example, FUEN is another, as well as the Mercator Project of the European Union, the minority centre in Graz, Austria, and a whole plethora of others as well.
We are talking about ethnic monitoring in this thread. British is one's citizenship/nationality and, unless I am greatly mistaken, has nothing to do with one's ethnic background.
Would you, or anyone else, be so kind as to explain how "British" qualifies in your opinion as an ethnic group, bearing in mind that, in a British context, i.e. that relating to citizenship, there are at least 3 indigenous Celtic languages and one Germanic language prevalent today in the UK state?
With all respect Hunlef would you say we are talking about both ethnicity and nationality and the importance of people being able to acknowledge both if they want rather than be directed by monitoring form design to choose either ethnicity or nationality but not both?
Yes I have a British Passport, only because I do not have a choice of a Cornish one. If I had the choice I would definately have a Cornish Passport. I do not think that having a British Passport means much to a lot of People, they just need a Passport.
On this thread, yes, we are talking about these issues. However, on official census forms, the government is requesting information about our ethnic origins or backgrounds. It is, therefore, very iniquitous for the authorities, who are fully aware of the definitions of these terms, to use them inconsistently and inappropriately, as they are doing in the decennial censuses. The public is naturally confused as a result, a factor which renders the statistical exercise worthless, especially if you are Cornish. The figures produced are as a direct result of the public's confusion on being forced to make an important decision about whether they are Cornish (their true ethnic background) or whether they are British (their citizenship).
Any statistician will tell you (and the Statistical Officer for CCC agrees) that statistics based on such confusing and unclear categorisations, are seriously flawed and have little value. The whole point about ethnic monitoring is to identify those sections of society that are under-performing or, sometimes, over-performing and should give an indication where public authorities should be devoting more resources. By masking the Cornish in this iniquitous fashion, the Cornish cannot be identified as under-performers and, as a consequence, they are unlikely to receive the financial rewards to which they are perfectrly entitled.
Yes Angofbew, I agree completely with you.
Nevertheless I think it is important today to have a British box leading down to a Cornish box to get a truer picture of the number of Cornish people.
Of course many ethnicity monitoring forms used by eg the District Councils leave out 'Cornish' altogether.
Hunlef - in agreement here too and it is not just financial rewards but jobs, service provision, educational opportunities, health, decision making positions in local government, local quangos etc - all these things are monitored.
The Cornish have this recognition as an ethnic group but are prevented from making use of this in ways that would be useful and fair. I believe this prevention is active and intentional.
I protest: Briton IS an ethnic group. It's how I (and millions more in Britain and around the world) choose to identify myself primarily before Welsh or English - or even Scottish if we claim ethnicity by the origins of our parents to great-grandparents - which I acknowledge as something further but not detracting from nor overshadowing the fact that I am an ethnic Briton, indigenous to Great Britain, proudly descended from the first people to live on this island. I also question your right to state that there is no Cumbrian or Northumbrian ethnic group. I know of people in the former, and several very well (and quite vehemently) of the latter, who would oppose you to the hilt on this question. I have even met those who identify as ethnic Yorkshiremen, then British, European, all before English. It is not for you to determine that Cornish is a legitimate ethnicity and others are not. It is certainly not for the CRE, who seem more interested in making money that directing policy, either. That is the arrogance, not of the Cornish, but of a few on this website who, heaven forbid if anyone with no world view ever visited here, could give Cornish folk a bad name.
As I have stated before, if bagpipes and tartan are precursors to being Celtic, as it seems they may be after the mockery of Devonians on this website who seek such things for Devon, then Cornwall is frightfully lacking, whereas Northumbria would be the truest Celtic nation in the political boundaries of England.
In order to make your own candle burn brighter, you needn't feel the need to snuff those of others. Acknowledging the uniqueness of other peoples and regions in Britain, or in England, even of their right to espouse their Celtic history - as all regions of England could do very easily - doesn't make Cornwall any less special. Cornish nationalists such as yourselves should be helping, not preventing, this realisation.
Rise in county's road death toll
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Film con man ordered to pay £100K
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Triplets survive against the odds
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Call for inquiry into fire centre
Fire chiefs demand a public inquiry into the delayed opening of the regional fire control centre.
Prison sentence for benefit cheat
A man who admitted swindling more than £51,000 in benefits over a six-year period is jailed for 18 months.
Divers face trial over shipwreck
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‘NO’ TO NUCLEAR WASTE IN CORNWALL - MPs
Proposals to bring nuclear waste to Cornwall have been described as ‘absurd and irresponsible’ by Cornish MPs.
Route Partnership Plan for Penzance unnecessary
Their plan having been rejected by the public in the final exhibition in Septmber with 90% against the Route Partnership have decided to try again in mid January after a mailout and poster campaign.The Chamber of Commerce has been at the forefront of this campaign.
