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Mike Posted: 20.02.2007, 10:06

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Your conclusions about Hen are correct Sentinel. After the business with the emails to Frenchie, I don't think we'll be hearing from her again. Obsessive behaviour trying to get one up on people seems to be the theme with these types.
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frenchie Posted: 20.02.2007, 10:36



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Latest letter from the Cornish Stannary Parliament to the Council of Europe.


The Cornish national minority and the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities - Part III.

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sentinel Posted: 20.02.2007, 16:05



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I am in full agreement with the Stannary presentation to the Council of Europe.

Why else are the Government able to lie to Parliament and the High Court with complete impunity? For what other reason are the Cornish right, but are never allowed to be seen to be right?

When the Cornwall LEA was forced by parental legal action to permit children to register as Cornish in schools, the administrative about turn was portrayed by the authorities own PR machine as being an benevolent and involuntary act on their part.

When the Cornish request their history, or even a balanced history, to be presented to children in school, they are labelled biased, bigoted or cranks - and to make efforts in this direction from within the educational establishment is career inhibiting. Yet those who insist on censoring Cornish history, and inculcating only English history into children, are portrayed as moderates to be socially rewarded with good jobs and social status.

The Government awarded Doris Ansari with a prominent sinecure within the Council of Europe and a gong to boot for being in charge when the LEA intimated that it would be “dangerous” to teach Cornish history in schools, and stated that it would be “unhelpful and unhealthy” for Cornish children to be given the opportunity to record their identity at school.

It is for these reasons, and many others, that the Cornish so desperately require the protection afforded by the Framework Convention.

If Secretary of State Ruth Kelly of the Department for Communities and Local Government, and her bagman Ian Naysmith, Head of the International Section at the Race Equality Unit, were not habitual liars, the Cornish would have achieved recognition years ago.




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Hunlef Posted: 20.02.2007, 18:47

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Sentinel - you forget that it is not just the Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, Ruth Kelly and her lapdog, Ian Naysmith that are liars, one should not forget that the Secretary of State's barrister, Philippa Whipple is similarly inclined to forget the truth! It is also worth remembering that Ruth Kelly and her predecessor, Fiona Mactaggert, have lied, not only to the Council of Europe but also to parliament. Ruth Kelly has the additional dubious distinction of having also told lies to the Highh Court!

'Condemnation without investigation is ignorance' - Albert Einstein
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Laghyades Posted: 20.02.2007, 22:13

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". The Duchy of Cornwall has refused to reveal the date on which Tintagel Castle was transferred from the Duchy of Cornwall Estate to English Heritage, the state funded cultural preservation body. (Part II, 5.18). There is no state funded British Heritage which would appear to expose a policy intended to bring about the reclassification of British heritage as English heritage by law."

Hence the expression . . . "Monumental hypocrisy"

An Parti Lavur a gensynsi dyenn an renkas ober. Mes lemmyn, ev a gensyns lastedhes an renkas kres.
(The Labour Party used to contain the cream of the working class. But now, it contains the scum of the middle class)

Laghyades
Kernewek . . . ha drog dhe'n askorn, babi !

Laghyades

Gonisogeth. Ertach.
Gyllys, gyllys glan.
Hemm yw an fordh a draow.
Dons. Ons.
Ha dehwelons.
Pan awen kov koth aga fleghes.

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Hunlef Posted: 21.02.2007, 23:39

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I am surprised that so few members of this forum have expressed outrage at those persons acting in an official capacity that have lied to government, to the Council of Europe and to the High Court in regard to the Cornish and the framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities. Such persons include Ruth Kelly, Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government, her lap-dog, Ian Naysmith and Philippa Whipple, Barrister.

Could this phenomenon be due to the English/Brit nationalist component of this forum being so dependent upon such unwholesome practices themselves generally that they regard it as being a normal, acceptable component of government??



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'Condemnation without investigation is ignorance' - Albert Einstein
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frenchie Posted: 21.02.2007, 23:57



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QuoteCould this phenomenon be due to the English/Brit nationalist component of this forum being so dependent upon such unwholesome practices themselves generally that they regard it as being a normal, acceptable component of government??


Good point, it's like a syndrome of modern life that is yet to receive a label. Like half the world knows Bush kills arabs for oil yet continue about their daily business as if it's nothing more than a soap opera on the telly..

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grum Posted: 22.02.2007, 00:34

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Sheep and goats, Frenchie - Sheep do what they are told because they know no different. Goats do what they are told because it is easier to do so than not.
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frenchie Posted: 22.02.2007, 00:41



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Sheepngoat syndrome? icon_smile




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grum Posted: 22.02.2007, 01:14

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Shoated icon_lol
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sentinel Posted: 22.02.2007, 17:35



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The UK Government has had over seven years in which to compile its second Convention compliance report.

Following the legal challenge by Cornwall 2000, the Government was unable to submit its final report to Europe and the opportunity to do so has now passed.

The Council of Europe will now monitor the Convention without input from the UK [which has to rethink its position].

Even Albania and Romania managed to submit their reports on time!
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TGG Posted: 22.02.2007, 20:58

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sentinel Posted: 22.02.2007, 17:35 The UK Government has had over seven years in which to compile its second Convention compliance report.

Following the legal challenge by Cornwall 2000, the Government was unable to submit its final report to Europe and the opportunity to do so has now passed.

The Council of Europe will now monitor the Convention without input from the UK [which has to rethink its position].

Even Albania and Romania managed to submit their reports on time!


Given that the Temporary Injunction failed, because of the flawed thinking of the High Court Judge, one wonders why a final report was not in fact submitted?

It was their (the DCLG) whole purpose in fighting the injunction to ensure that it met the deadline! icon_confused

How much notice will the Advisory Committee give to their copy of the Draft Compliance Report?

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STOP THE CORNISH GENOCIDE!- The existence of divergent views occur because the lies and deception have a more profoundly negative, and contrived, consequence for the Cornish people than for anyone else within the UK.
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frenchie Posted: 22.02.2007, 22:03



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QuoteGiven that the Temporary Injunction failed, because of the flawed thinking of the High Court Judge, one wonders why a final report was not in fact submitted?


Maybe because of what the reasons for the injuction exposed?

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TGG Posted: 22.02.2007, 23:38

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The reasons were known in advance so why persist in actions to thwart the Injunction? We shall have to wait and see what the DCLG/REU does next because it is not over by any stretch of the imagination. Not least the possibility of them financially penalising Cornwall 2000 for daring to expose their lies and maladministration in the High Court of Justice(?).

The Advisory Committee will be in the UK sometime during the latter half of March (we should know the date early next week!) and they will form their opinion following that meeting. It is essential that we have a good following of 'interested parties' at the meeting - as good as, or better than, June 2001.

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TGG Posted: 23.02.2007, 10:23

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Just heard back from the Advisory Committee and copied below. Received on the last day of 'the hearing' sounds typically suspicious of the whole charade.

TGG

---------------copied msg---------------

Indeed, the UK's 2nd State Report has just arrived - it arrived last
night.

As you know, the Advisory Committee's 28th plenary meeting is currently
taking place - today is the last day. As soon as the meeting is over, we
will format the State Report and post it on our web-site. I suggest that
you visit our website on Monday, as it should be visible then.

The Advisory Committee had already started to monitor the UK's
compliance with the Framework Convention, prior to receiving the state
report. As you may know, last Autumn, the Committee of Ministers of the
Council of Europe gave the Advisory Committee authorisation to begin
monitoring the UK in the absence of a state report in view of the
report's persistent delay.

Next week, I shall contact you, and other interested persons and
organisations, whom the Advisory Committee will wish to meet during its
country visit to the UK, scheduled for 19-23 March.

Best wishes,





STOP THE CORNISH GENOCIDE!- The existence of divergent views occur because the lies and deception have a more profoundly negative, and contrived, consequence for the Cornish people than for anyone else within the UK.
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