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pfishwick Posted: 30.12.2006, 22:37

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QuoteModern day Cornwall.


Doesn't answer the question.

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frenchie Posted: 30.12.2006, 22:40



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QuoteDoesn't answer the question.


..for you
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pfishwick Posted: 31.12.2006, 20:11

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More serious, but civilised, arguments can wait for now.

In Welsh/Kernewek: (or at least an attempt)

Blwyddyn Newydd Dda, Cernyw!/Bledhen Noweth Da, Kernow!

Nos da,

Patrick 8)
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Shaz Posted: 31.12.2006, 20:18

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QuoteMore serious, but civilised, arguments can wait for now.


Oh good icon_lol just joking Patrick, have a good one...
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frenchie Posted: 31.12.2006, 21:12



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http://www.1st-ever-ready-removals.co.uk/

This company advertises on C24, their google ad displays them as 'specialist removals from the London home counties to Devon/Cornwall'.

The invasion is popular..
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Shaz Posted: 31.12.2006, 22:10

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QuoteThe invasion is popular..


Popular is dodgy... I reckon Cornish need to take charge of things, more shepards needed for sheep and fowl icon_biggrin
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 01.01.2007, 15:57

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So Patrick from which nation did the harm done to the Cornish nation come from?

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The current UK admininistration has no desire to see the implementation of any form of democratic English government,


No because they already have an English imperial parliament which allows them to run the isles for the benefit of London and around and guzzle all that Scots oil (in the past Cornish tin).

Patrick i to wish you all the best for 2007, i think you are a pretty genuine chap and i respect your intolerance of prejudice, but we have to be able to tell the truth even if that puts the backs up of the English.
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pfishwick Posted: 01.01.2007, 20:09

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QuoteSo Patrick from which nation did the harm done to the Cornish nation come from?


From the same countries as huge amounts of harm, social injustice and oppression done to the English themselves, namely England (via the monarchy) and the UK. In 1497 and 1549, from the same country that provided widespread popular support on both occasions, in spite of decades of brutal despotism from the Tudor regime.

Fortunately, some English people have rebelled against this oppression by their own state. Why do Cornish women have the vote? It's thanks to English women:

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/suffragettes.htm

QuoteNo because they already have an English imperial parliament which allows them to run the isles for the benefit of London and around and guzzle all that Scots oil (in the past Cornish tin).


The Scots oil revenues most likely kept the economy of England afloat in the 1970s, according to recently released government documents. The same documents show concern about a possible Scots backlash to this. It's also likely nowadays that the subsidy flows the other way, which does neither England nor Scotland any good. Also, it was investment of English taxpayers' money in the main that opened up the North Sea oilfields. A sticky issue for sure.

As for past exploitation of Cornish tin, well, all the resources of the (now) UK have been largely exploited for the benefit of the few, be they the Crown, the Duchies or private industrialists. At least in Cornwall's case this bought a degree of devolution via the Stannary Parliament. Devon's silver deposits were worked exclusively for the Crown:

http://www.people.ex.ac.uk/pfclaugh/mhinf/mexico.htm

Until recently, I'd go along with the concept of an English Imperial State - check out the imposition of the Poll Tax on Scotland, for example - provided that it was recognised that the majority of the English population were not necessarily beneficiaries thereof. We now though have a handful of autocratic Englishmen and Scots who don't want more power for the English electorate; in fact, they'd rather reduce the power of Parliament altogether, and are legislating accordingly.

QuotePatrick i to wish you all the best for 2007, i think you are a pretty genuine chap and i respect your intolerance of prejudice, but we have to be able to tell the truth even if that puts the backs up of the English.


Meur ras 8) .Likewise I wish you all the best for 2007 and I think you are also a pretty genuine chap. In the final analysis we both agree that Kernow should have greater political autonomy (as you know, I believe the CPO on South Crofty from the SWRDA was a shocker). I believe strongly though that the Cornish cause needs to analyse the situation in more detail than just blaming England. Understanding the problem better = getting a superior solution.

There should be no tolerance of prejudice, against the English, the Cornish, the Scots or whoever. You need to accept though that English observers also have to be able to tell "the truth" as they see it, even if it puts the backs up of the Cornish. :wink:

Nos da,

Patrick
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Masterclass Posted: 03.01.2007, 18:51



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Have a happy new year, everyone. Hope it brings prosperity, luck and good, happy times.

EDIT: best of luck fundraising. I know someone who uses the google ads pay per click thingy, I can try and put them in touch if you want.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 03.01.2007, 18:54

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Thanks MC and you!
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