Could you explain what this morbid fascination with "how many" people are supporting the work of UFS is based on? Thomas Leigh withdrew from the whole orthography debate, that is, as a user of KK, he withdrew his support from KK as well as KS. The list of 14 is on UFS' preliminary submission to the Commission, which is found on our website.
You and Keith and the rest can try to read whatever you like into the numbers. Keith has for months worried about who UFS "really" is. Discussion on this list still makes the mistaken assumption that our group has "leaders". Even Ken George in his recent letter to An Gannas tried to identify the "authors" of the KS proposal. And he got it wrong.
For my part I am going on holiday for a couple of weeks. A nice driving trip with Iranian friends up through the mountains from Tehran to Tabriz, and then back down along the Caspian coast. So I'll be taking a break from the discussion on this forum. I have a couple of things to say to Keith before I go (I'm not sure which thread).
In the meantime, FlammNew, I'll just say that your concern about who participates in UFS and who is supporting the work we have done on KS seems out of place, since you will not confess your real name. That goes for a lot of you. Oh, we have a fair idea who some of you are. I'm sure I know who Palores is; his writing makes it obvious. We have a notion about who Branvras is. Those of us from UFS who have participated on this list have had a lot of criticism from some of you, mostly because we don't believe that KK is a good enough orthography for Cornish and we believe that the Revival can devise a better one. But at least we are open about it. Honest about who we are. Willing to publish our submissions to the Commission so that even our adversaries can see what we are doing. The closed-door policy of the Kesva shows just what it is: a private club, not an open and democratic representative organization. A lot of you have said that it is "democratic". But it's not. It's a publishing house. Not a representative organization. It certainly does not represent all of the people in the Revival. The fact that some of its officers say that it is "democratic" and "representative" does not make it so. And the Commission, I believe, knows this.
Evertype, I was correcting the suggestion that KS only had 14 supporters, because I knew that there were more on Revision 13 of the proposal. I asked where the list of 14 names was because I didn't believe the poster who suggested it was right. I'm afraid your paranoia misinterpreted my question, I was actually on your side that time. The acerbic response I got from you will make me think twice about doing so in future. Well done, and have a nice holiday.
I'm afraid, FlammNew, that this is the usual response from these characters. Ask a perfectly reasonable question (e.g. 'What's your evidence?', 'What's your authority?', or 'Why should be take any notice of this?'), and they throw a wobbly. Ask them to explain themselves, and they call for you to be silenced.
Fortunately, they'll never be in any position of power over us. One of the things that appeals to me about the Cornish language is the egalitarian ethos of the Cornish-speaking community. There's a very funny little rhyme about our would-be rulers doing the rounds, but as some people reading this may understand Cornish, perhaps I'd better not put it here!
The date on the UDF submission to the commission is St. Piran's Feast which is March 5. It was however posted I believe after the Kernowak 13 document. I was simply asking for clarification. As usual Mr. E gets defensive whenever anyone asks him a question that he thinks might be in anyway critical of Kernowak.
No matter what we do it seems that you fellows just want to find fault with us.
I try to be rational and reasonable when I communicate on this forum. I find the fact that most of you are anonymous to be irritating at best.
Over the past while, a great deal has been made about how many we are and who we are. That is tiresome, and you may label me "paranoid" if you wish, but I've seen a lot of "how many are you and who are you" and can be forgiven (I should think) for assuming that the queries were more of the same.
It was and is not my intent to annoy, FlammNew. But you're quick to threaten "thinking twice". It goes both ways.
Bardh - just a word of warning. You are one strike away from a banning!
Not that I have anything in particular against poetry but if refer to points 11 and 12 of the forum rules which you agreed to when signing up:
My apologies for strike-breaking. As I said in my message to you, I had no idea that a dispute was in progress. This is certainly not a thing that I would have dreamed of doing: anybody who knows me will vouch for this.
Now that I've looked at the points, I must say that for the life of me I can't see their relevance (especially the part about poetry), but since you'r exercsing editorial prerogative I'll not pursue the point. As far as I'm concerned, you may no consider the matter closed.
Any way, Michael's latest statements confirm what I'd suspected: the inventors - or rather, re-re-reinventors - of Kernowack are in a flat spin. The alpha and omega of this entire discussion is that this ingenious reconstruction of how Cornish might have been, hundreds of years ago in a parallel space-time continuum, is no more than an intellectual plaything and never will be. Even its won inventors can't develop enough commitment to any ephemeral form of it to last longer than an extended committee meeting. The dwindling little band of enthusiats will probably still be tweaking their creation for ages, but at the present rate of decline they'll soon be hard put to it to muster a soccer team. They've alreadt had to abandon Rugby Union for the League code - they may soon have to abandon any kind of team game altogether.
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