High Tide Jangye-ryn
Also known as Dollar cove owing to the wreck of a 17th century ship that has yielded some silver coins over the years.
The geology here is of special interest with the contorted strata of the clif...
Jangye-ryn
The curiously named Jangye-ryn, located just around the corner from Gunwalloe beach on the Lizard Peninsula.
I believe there are some interesting geological formations somewhere here....
Poldhu Cove Panorama
Poldhu Cove on the Lizard Peninsula.
This wasn't even low tide and there was too much beach to fit on one photo (this is 3 stitched together).
Poldhu is perhaps best known for being the site of G...
Summer Field
Dandelions on a field on a summer's day...
Sorry I didn't make the distinction clear. Modern Cornish is the language, which includes wide variation in pronunciation. KK is the orthography the overwhelming majority of its speakers have chosen. It copes efficiently with all the variation.
The reforms of the 80s revified the language, which had become very moribund. Kesva minutes were no longer monoglot English. Discussions about Cornish were now in Cornish. People now used it in conversation, outside formal occasions. Expansìon continues, by purely voluntary effort.
To Flamm:
personally I dont care which version is chosen as SWF, and I wouldnt have a problem with KK being selected - I have spent the last 6months or so, trying ot convert myself to KK from UC anyway. Its the spoken form that is important and all forms are so close it wouldn't be an issue.
However...
I believe that the survival of the language depends on its "saleability" (not sure if thats spelt right?) To Businesses and to Educationial facilities and indeed anywhere we want a Cornish Dimension. I'm not sure if kemmyn does that as well as say KD or some of the other forms.
Personally I would like the SWF to be KK but with the spelling convention of KD. I think this has plus points of all forms, and only a couple of small drawbacks. (I also like the idea of Qw better than Kw or Qu).
But any decision on the SWF will NOT put me of my favourite language, even though i cant use it properly.
I don't see how KK is any less "saleable" than any other form to businesses and/or education. Why do you say that? KD has the disadvantage that nobody uses it. KK is best-placed to hit the ground running as a SWF.
Examine carefully the attacks on KK. They also involve vocabulary, grammar, pronunciation - an attack on Modern Cornish as such. This dispute not really about spelling, and never was. It's about philosophy.
Thank you for the compliment about my English skills.
I refute your claim that my rhetoric is ”anti-Kemmyn”.
Some postings on this site were extremely ”anti-KS”, and I pointed this out. As both KK and KS are ”reconstructed” orthographies, I don’t see the logic in calling just one of them a ”Frankenstein creation” and the like. Then they both are ”Frankenstein creations”. – If you want to give me a label, I’d prefer ”pro-Cornish”.
Since it is impossible to drop a message on this forum without providing an entire biography and a family tree at the same time, I will tell you this:
I am not particularly interested in Cornwall as such.
But I am in love with the Cornish language, ever since I first heard about it. I think it is beautiful, and I’d like to learn it, some day.
Is that answer enough for you, FlammNew?
Or do you also want me to list the books I’ve read?
PS Some Scandinavians are interested in Celtic culture!
Thats just my impression! I feel people will relate to Cornish through placenames, first and foremost, I dont think KK looks as attractive as some forms. (Again just my personal opinion, its not an attack.)
With regards to your second point - nobody uses KD, true, nobody at present uses the spelling convention proposed by KD, but the grammer is all the same as KK. This is why i would (personally) like to make the changes suggested by KD. KK is not alien to editing - I would just like to Edit it in one big sweep rather than adjusting it every few years (IF people want it to be editted).
And i agree KK is probably best selected as SWF (editted or not!)
One more point, KK viered of the attested route, (for well known reasons) But if changes were to be made to KK, I would like this to be corrected, if easily done!
Another reason for the failure of these 3 groups: a fraction of their effort went into promoting Cornish. Most of their time and energy went into denouncing KK, Kesva, and Kowethas in English.
I’ve been here since about April, just passively reading the posts…
I heard about Kernowak [via Evertype’s homepage], thought ”Hey, some people are trying to reunite the Cornish language – great!”, googled the word ”Kernowak”, and found C24.
I must say I was baffled by the very cold welcome Kernowak was given – especially as it seemed to be proposed by some people with really good intentions.
But this does not make me either ”pro-” or ”anti-” anything. Having followed these discussions for the past month, I view good things in both KS and KK.
Thank you for the recommendation, FlammNew. But I think I will wait until you’ve settled your conflicts, and agreed upon a SWF. (September? Never?)
And oh, I am in good old Denmark right now. My family lives in Norway and Sweden as well.
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