As you are a man who doesn't appear to have ever written a single sentence of Cornish in all the forums I have ever been on I am ranking your personal contribution as "inconsequential". I'm not getting into an I-did-you-did conversation with you, I'm secure in my own mind that I have made a positive contribution to the language.
It is also rude to trash other people's work such as Keith Syed's, we are not trashing Williams' Poetry or his NT, yet the Williams crowd go out of their way to demolish everything produced in 21st C Cornish, with false claims of Conlangs, and bogus,as if KK was Elvish or something.
Even if Flamm had contributed to the Language by the way of way of dictionaries or articles, it would not have stopped the UCR lot trashing him, they do that with everyone else who do not write in the favoured orthography of the day. Look at what happened to Keith Syed, and others.
I know, goky. I really do fear for the language if the SWF goes their way, thousands of man-hours of valuable work will be thrown out and they will be dancing in the streets around bonfires of Kemmyn dictionaries and other non-approved publications.
The Book of SWF, 13:17: And that no man may speak or write Cornish, save that he have the mark of Kernowak, either the name of NJW or a dictionary of Evertype.
That doesn't make any sense. We do not criticize KK for writing yw for 'is'. We criticize George for abandoning traditional orthography simply because he thought it didn't matter and that his choices were "more logical". It's his arbitrary choices which people object to and have objected to for 20 years. (It is also the behaviour of his supporters to anyone who opposes them what we object to.
*Bywnans is an error. It is a spelling of a word which is very well attested as bewnans and bownans. The spelling *bywnans does not occur even once in traditional Cornish. George uses it because he wants this word to be spelt etymologically. That's Cornish-as-George-wants-it-to-be, and not Cornish-as-it-was. Why should George's judgement be preferred here? He certainly has no time machine.
Yet when George is criticized, we are "trying to destroy 21st-century Cornish".
In Writings on Revived Cornish, we reprint Williams' article from Cornish Studies Nine[i/] listing [i]hundreds of errors in citation, taken from George's dictionary. His work is supposed to be "scientific", but his citations are not correct. For instance, Gerlyver Kernewek Kemmyn says that gast is confined to a single instance in Lhuyd. It occurs five times. The "modern and scholarly dictionary"'s citation is wrong. And there are hundreds of these errors, all ignored by George, and indeed by Keith, to whom I have pointed out this article many times. The response is alwasy head-in-the-sand pretending the article doesn't exist.
A scientist welcomes criticism and is glad when errors are pointed out. A scientist corrects the errors.
That's a nice, safe way for you to dismiss someone with whom you disagree. But in our discussions I have always tried to be courteous with you, and you have tended to mockery or dismissal.
You can pretend that I don't know anything about Cornish if that makes you more comfortable. It's not true, however.
Have you read Form and Content in Revived Cornish? You can find out about it here: http://www.ever...content.html. It contains a long review of Syed's New Testamant. Syed claimed that the translations were all made from the Greek, and that claim is demonstrably false, since it is possible to show which particular English translation was really used by the translators. Is pointing this "trashing" it? It seems to me that it is fair criticism.
Seriously, however. You have forgotten that thousands of man-hours of valuable work were done in Unified Cornish in the decades prior to 1986. And you are ignoring the fact that thousands of man-hours of valuable work were done in preparing Williams' English-Cornish Dictionary which will also need to be replaced if a fifth form is chosen for the SWF.
But we know so much more about Cornish than we did once. The Fifth Form, agreed by consensus rather than the work of one person, will be better than anything the Revival has had previously.
I do not think that burning books, no matter what their content is a 'pleasant image'. I find it very disturbing to suggest something like that. I will still have a KK dictionary sat on my shelf despite the fact that I do not use KK, even if it were eventually abandoned.
Come on, Morvyl, it was a bit of levity. I took FlammNew's comment to be ironic, and I marked my comment with an "evil smiley" to indicate black humour. The image is cinematic, and reminded me of an old Frankestein movie where all the villagers are out with their torches.
I get different images when I see burning books. Books epitomise knowledge, experience, pleasure, the life and imagination of people(s), cultures, civilisations dead or alive. The burning of books, whether it happened as an accident (I assume) such as Alexandria's library, or whether it was "villagers' rage with torches" trying to rid their closed minded existence from books written by 'undesirable elements of society' as the NAZIs did with books written by Jews - it's always a tragedy and an incredible loss. Sorry, if I seem a little uptight about this, but there is little that symbolises stupidity, closed mindedness and ignorance as much as burning books. (that is unless you are freezing and books are the only thing you've got to keep the fire going - even then I'd be rubbing my hands over the flames crying).
I have to agree with morvyl, the selective destruction of books and thereby knowledge is tantamount to trying to assert mind control. Reminds me of the church trying to suppress books printed in languages other than Latin in case the ordinary people read them and obtained more knowledge than the church wanted them to have. If only the books in Glasney library was still in existence we wouldn't be having a lot of these arguments today.
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