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chris Posted: 17.04.2005, 18:42

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Do you think you could do something useful and rid us of the real vermin - seagulls!
I don't care how in-humane a method you use, just get rid of them!
I'd almost forgotten how much I hated them but it's rutting season and it only gets worse from here on in.
Maybe I'll just do it myself and get a big bag of bicarbonate of soda and some old pasties!
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fancyabrew Posted: 17.04.2005, 21:40



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hear hear a right pest, our streets are like a rubbish tip on bin days
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WillinChina Posted: 18.04.2005, 02:00



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I like gulls. They're beautiful, graceful birds with character. God forbid we should ever "get rid of them" in Cornwall. I'm in a coastal area with no gulls and I really miss them. So there.
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Diane Posted: 18.04.2005, 02:34

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"WillinChina"I like gulls. They're beautiful, graceful birds with character. God forbid we should ever "get rid of them" in Cornwall. I'm in a coastal area with no gulls and I really miss them. So there.


People feed them and they congregate in that area, it's not the gulls fault. we feed various species of birds here, Buy large bags of seed and even buy cheap mince beef to feed the kookaburras etc. they come around about twice a day and we love it. The parrots are very entertaining and it's our choice to do this. Someone must have thought the gulls were entertaining too.
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irish_monk Posted: 18.04.2005, 08:17



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arn't u a veggie crisy???!!!
or a r u a veggie when it suits u,'' I wouldnt eat them but its o
k for other people to aimlessly kil them!''

NO WAY, I dont support killing of ANY animals birds or fish!!!!!!!!!
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fancyabrew Posted: 18.04.2005, 09:30



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"WillinChina"I like gulls. They're beautiful, graceful birds with character. God forbid we should ever "get rid of them" in Cornwall. I'm in a coastal area with no gulls and I really miss them. So there.


That’s the point, you don’t find them on the coast! When I was a boy in my teens (back in the 80s) I used to go fishing and have to clamber down over the cliffs, from this time of the year onwards you would be dive bombed, as you would be walking past loads of nests. Went to the same spot a couple of years back, nothing at all. Then you also have the loonies who feed the bleddy things, despite all the signs saying not to do it, nearly always old dears, the same sort who feed another pest that is the feral pigeon.
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heyl_john Posted: 18.04.2005, 10:54



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Irishmonk: I posed a question to you in a recent posting on this board, and you must have missed it, so here we go again:

A question for you: you define the killing of animals as murder, despite the fact that murder only applies to humans killing humans. So based on your logic that killing all animals is murder, if I kill a slug in the garden, or a mosquito that bit me, or wipe out an entire ants nest is that too deemed to be murder by your definition? Or perhaps mass-murder in the case of the ants.

Or do these insects not have feelings or souls as you described earlier?

I again await your reply

Heyl John
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irish_monk Posted: 18.04.2005, 16:58



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chris Posted: 18.04.2005, 17:15

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OK, compromise - sterilise every seagull within a mile radius of me. I'd do it myself for free!
WillinChina - I think you'll find seagulls aren't predominantly coastal anymore - they have much better pickings in towns, cities and farms. And I don't think it's particularly anything to do with people feeding them - just effective scavenging.

Irish Monk - a monk from Ireland living in Israel?? I take some of your points but cannot put animals at the same level as humans.
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HarvsPenzance Posted: 18.04.2005, 19:43



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I've noticed that since we've had 'wheelie bins' the shite-hawk population has scuttled off to parts unknown. Now they haven't got bin bags to rip apart it's much quiter around here. Just as well, cos even though i'm a gentle soul I could happily kick the damn things to death!
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fancyabrew Posted: 18.04.2005, 19:58



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lucky you can't have wheelie bins here :o( Still an air gun is just the job
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nxylas Posted: 18.04.2005, 22:11



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"Diane"People feed them and they congregate in that area, it's not the gulls fault. we feed various species of birds here, Buy large bags of seed and even buy cheap mince beef to feed the kookaburras etc. they come around about twice a day and we love it.


What about cockatiels? My wife and I have three pet tiels, and I reckon it would be pretty cool to see them in your back garden.
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Diane Posted: 18.04.2005, 23:03

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"nxylas"
"Diane"People feed them and they congregate in that area, it's not the gulls fault. we feed various species of birds here, Buy large bags of seed and even buy cheap mince beef to feed the kookaburras etc. they come around about twice a day and we love it.


What about cockatiels? My wife and I have three pet tiels, and I reckon it would be pretty cool to see them in your back garden.


Yes it's pretty cool, but no cockatiels, plenty of white cockatoos, rainbow lorakeets, galahs, King parrots and many others. I love it, we buy seed in 30kg bags sunflower seed and mixed wild bird seed. We're on the coast but don't see many sea-gulls and they're smaller than they are in Cornwall.
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Diane Posted: 18.04.2005, 23:05

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"HarvsPenzance"I've noticed that since we've had 'wheelie bins' the shite-hawk population has scuttled off to parts unknown. Now they haven't got bin bags to rip apart it's much quiter around here. Just as well, cos even though i'm a gentle soul I could happily kick the damn things to death!


The bin bag left out for pick up, was stupid, that was asking for trouble, wheelie bins are great.
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WillinChina Posted: 19.04.2005, 05:15



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"fancyabrew"That’s the point, you don’t find them on the coast!


Of course you find gulls on the coast. They breed there and unless there is a coastal population there won't be an inland population either, as in this country where they are scarce on the coast and non-existent inland, probably due to dietary and environmental human influence.

It is true that certain species of gull have adapted to taking advantage of a human environment and so are most common in coastal towns and villages where in my view they add greatly to the charm of the place. Most animals avoid human contact so it makes a nice change to be able to see large numbers of wild birds. I for one am happy to share my environment with gulls.

Besides, what real harm do they do? How many cases of gull-induced illness or injury can you name? If one takes the odd pasty, it might be a temporary inconvenience but it's also an amusing anecdote to relate to friends, and shows an admirable character on the part of the gull. Besides, if a gull wants a pasty, how else can it get one one? It can't just go into a shop and buy one like us because it has no money.
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