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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 14.07.2007, 17:08

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The radical and green left is often more supportive of the Cornish cause, its from them that ideas like Fourth World Nations come from: http://www.cwis.../fworld.html

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TGG Posted: 14.07.2007, 20:43

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I would have thought that the concept of the 'Fourth World' had manifested itself many decades before the rise of 'green' issues and rumblings about globalisation. One can understand, perhaps, that it was something that the 'greens' might attach itself to, but peoples' rejection of repression by the majority has a long pedigree. icon_rolleyes

An excellent article tho' icon_smile

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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 15.07.2007, 11:35

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Your right TGG but the idea of Fourth World Nations and historic regions marries very well with radical decentralisation so beloved of the green left.

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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 12.10.2007, 11:34

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2nd Secessionist Convention Media Stories
The convention was held Oct 3-4, 2007 in Chattanooga, TN

As you'll see, there was controversy over(mostly Southern Poverty Law Center) allegations that convention co-convener League of the South is racist. More info at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_the_South
http://middleburyinstitute.org also co-convened.

In truth, all secessionists risk being tarred by "unionists" with the "bigotry" smear because *some* secessionists obviously want separatist organizations, communities or nation states based on race, religion, ethnicity, language, gender, etc. The desire to work in political community with one's own kind does not necessarily mean hateful or supremacist or colonialist beliefs - though when it does we should protest the fact. But that doesn't mean we have to spend half our time denouncing any secessionist who doesn't toe any unionist's politically correct line.

To me a greater concern about the conference itself is that most of the attendees assume seceding entities will be one or more of the current states of the union. One of these days I'll list all the arguments for why we should be promoting secession by smaller entities (communities,cities, counties) which then form regional networks and confederations. At http://secession.net.

One argument is suggested by the fact that two different gay blogs below gave the convention relatively positive coverage. Minority groups that want self-determination can most easily be accommodated by community-based secession movements.

Considering that a time of great change is coming, we must get our strategies and goals in order if we are to offer a real alternative to the various authoritarians jockeying to take greater control of nation states worldwide. Carol in DC
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VIDEO:Second North American Secessionists Convention held in Downtown WDEF News 12, TN - Oct 3, 2007 http://wdef.com/news/secessionists_say_second_north_american_secessionists_convention/10/2007

Secessionists Meeting in Tennessee
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2ax-qLr2hKTc6PJMZIgs3jr9ekwD8S1K47G0

The Associated Press - Oct 3, 2007
(NOTE: Versions also published by Fox News, USA Today and couple dozen local papers.)

Anger over Iraq and Bush prompts calls for secession from the US
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article3028714.ece

Independent, UK - Oct 4, 2007 - By Leonard Doyle

The state of independence
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/the-state-of-independence-1116341.html

Dublin, Ireland Saturday, October 06 2007

People Who Want To Secede From United States Hold Convention
http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/convention_963425___article.html/people_agree.html
John Pless - Oct 4, 2007

A House Divided Against Itself Can Not Stand . . Or can it?
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/blogs/boston/2007/10/03/a-house-divided-against-itself-can-not-stand/
Boston Magazine, United States - Oct 3, 2007

USA in 2008 and after
http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=126782
Roberto Carlos Alvarez-galloso
05 October 2007, Friday

Unlikely Allies: Secessionist Groups Meet
http://www.newsroomamerica.com/usa/story.php?id=394292
Newsroom America, New Zealand - Oct 3, 2007

Yankee and Rebel Secessionists Meeting in Tennessee
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/usa/news/article_1362419.php/Yankee_and_Rebel_Secessionists_Meeting_in_Tennessee

By Karyn Chenoweth Oct 4, 2007, 13:41 GMT

Liberal State Secessionists Meet
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon07/10/100307states.htm
by The Associated Press
Posted: October 3, 2007 - 1:00 pm ET

Talking ‘Bout a Revolution
http://gaycharleston.ccpblogs.com/2007/10/04/talking-bout-a-revolution/
Posted by cheryl glenn on October 4th, 2007

Several States Are Discussing *Secession* From The United States
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_justanot_071003_several_states_are_d.htm
OpEdNews, PA - Oct 4, 2007

*Secession* Planning
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/015809.html
Lew Rockwell, CA - Oct 3, 2007

Very negative article:
Hang them ... hang them high
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/leverkuhn/2007/oct/03/hang_them_hang_them_high
Red State - Oct 3, 2007
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Carol Moore in DC
http://secession.net
http://cafepress.com/secessionnet
http://radicalbuttons.com
http://carolmoore.net/
http://carolmoorereport.blogspot.com/
http://youtube.com/carolmoore

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