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Marking irregular stress

goky Posted: 20.07.2007, 11:43

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Nothing wrong in posting in Cornish,the only objections seem to come from the Kernowackys. who cannot read them, the rest of us can learn.With the help of my trusty little Kemmyn dictionary I can read them, and all this Kemmyn has not made me blind yet or go into convulsions.


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marhak Posted: 21.07.2007, 08:03

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Pity.
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Jtreworth Posted: 21.07.2007, 23:29

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gokyNothing wrong in posting in Cornish,the only objections seem to come from the Kernowackys. who cannot read them, the rest of us can learn.With the help of my trusty little Kemmyn dictionary I can read them, and all this Kemmyn has not made me blind yet or go into convulsions.


Ow bloudh vy wy try ugans ha pymp. Yth of vy den bohosek a'n puscas. Me a wrug desky Kernowek yn termyn pan en vy maw. Me a vue dhe'n mor gans ow har vy ha pymp den moy yn scath. Me a wrug scantlowr clowes un ger Sawsnek y'n scath rag seythen warbarth. Ny wrug avy bythqueth gweles lyver Kernowek. Me a wrug desky Kernowek ow mos dhe'n mor gans an dus coth. Nag ues moy avel pajer po pymp y'gan tre ny a yll clappya Kernowek lemmyn, pobel goth pajer ugans bloudh. An Kernowek yw oll ankevys gans an bobel yonk.

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GoghiennVarow Posted: 21.07.2007, 23:57

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QuoteAn Kernowek yw oll ankevys gans an bobel yonk.


Nosdan orth an wiasva ma yw yowynk, ha nyns ov vy koth (yn kewar). icon_wink



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goky Posted: 22.07.2007, 00:32

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Our BY seems to be the reincarnation of Wella Bodinar,

as in Bluth ve ew pager igans ha pemp,Thera ve dean bodgack an puscas, etc etc.


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Evertype Posted: 22.07.2007, 09:15

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I take it, then, that there is no great need to mark irregular stress in a standard orthography Cornish.
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Evertype Posted: 22.07.2007, 20:20

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I began this thread, and have enjoyed what serious discussion there has been. Several individuals seem intent on wasting everyone's time with irrelevancy, however, so I shall withdraw from this forum for now. UdnFormScrefys remains interested in discussion with people who are serious about the compromise orthography which we believe will indeed become the SWF. Please see kernowak.com where you can find the proposal which we forwarded to the Commission and information about the mailing list.



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Nosdan Posted: 23.07.2007, 09:52

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Quote An Kernowek yw oll ankevys gans an bobel yonk.


Gwyr yw! It is being forgotten all over again. And its not the young peoples fault! I have many friends that know about my Cornish (cornish ones), not one of them is critical of it! Infact many would like to learn the language themselves and enjoy learning new ways to swear at english people!

Cornish hasn't got such a bad image just so little accesability. Theres no usage, very few books and little music and few classes. The sooner people bury their hatchets and agree on the SWF, the better. Then we can get out there publicising THEIR language!

Our bickering is still only doing damage to our cause...

Mar vedhow avel gelvinek
(as maazed as a curlew)
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FlammNew Posted: 23.07.2007, 10:22

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Exactly. We need unity, and united promotion. We don't need any new forms, we need the minority to swallow their pride and go with the existing majority and support and promote Cornish. At the moment the only place the anti-Kemmynites want to bury their hatchets is in our backs. They don't seem to realise that the best way for them to influence Kemmyn is from the inside; being shouted at by people like Eddie-C who won't even look at Kemmyn for fear of upsetting himself is going to change nothing.

Once the SWF has been chosen I assume/hope/pray that a body will be set up to oversee the future development of the SWF so that it is no longer in the hands of any of the existing 'leaders' (of ANY form), but in those of a pro-SWF group.



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goky Posted: 23.07.2007, 10:45

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It should be noted that the debate is really between
Cornish speakers and those who cannot speak the language or know only a very basic "Janet and John" Cornish. The only people here who can actually argue a case in Cornish use Kemmyn, and are promptly told not to use Cornish by the reactionaries, even the great Marhak admitted he cannot argue a case in Cornish ,Everson cannot , Eddie C probably never got past short form of "bos" before giving up.Brian Young
can impress us with his use of gourgyjyer and that is about it.
The book that was published attacking Kemmyn publications was written in English.In fact I think the only reactionary who can argue a case in Cornish is probably NJW the rest are just his poodles, trying to boost their ego's or sell more books.


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Jtreworth Posted: 23.07.2007, 11:18

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gokygourgyjyer


Te yw gourgyjyer Goky mes nyns of vy an Young ma! Fol! Deskough Kernowek mar plek!

"Instead, why dont you write in the language and talk about others in the language yourself? Too difficult I guess when you are simple minded...how ironic you write what you did and you did it in English! Practise what you preach or sens dha glap den vyan!"

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goky Posted: 23.07.2007, 11:37

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As usual Young, you miss the point, I am not the one attacking the Kemmynites, I was making an observation about those who are the reactionaries.

And you gave yourself away Young by use of that term, don't delude yourself.


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Jtreworth Posted: 23.07.2007, 11:46

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gokyAs usual Young, you miss the point, I am not the one attacking the Kemmynites, I was making an observation about those who are the reactionaries.

And you gave yourself away Young by use of that term, don't delude yourself.


???????? Pwy arta Goky?

Den vyan muscok

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ObscureAlternatives Posted: 23.07.2007, 12:21

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for gods sake you two give it a rest

nothing will put peeps off geting involved in the language than this kind of pointless argument
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CJenkin Posted: 23.07.2007, 12:31



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ObscureAlternativesfor gods sake you two give it a rest

nothing will put peeps off geting involved in the language than this kind of pointless argument


Agreed - Flame wars betwen people far from Kernow do little to deal with language issues here.
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