Stream, St. Breward
Stream near St. Breward on Bodmin Moor...
St Germoe's Church
Germoe church was built in the 12th century on the site of an earlier Celtic church.
On each side of the porch are carved what appear to be long tailed monkeys - it is thought they are intended to wa...
St Germoe's Well
The rather unremarkable St Germoe's Holy Well opposite the church in the village of the same name.
The inscription reads:
St Germoe's Holy Well
A reconstruction of a well which existed here circ...
Due to so much hateful activity on here displayed by people (you know who you are!) and the mentioning of his name, I have contacted him to let him know a time or two in the past, fed up with this tripe, Mr. Young sent me this e-mail to EVERYONE (his stress) to settle this once and for all! Please read:
"OPEN LETTER TO THE CORNISH ORTHOGRAPHY DEBATERS ON C-24.
I have been shown, and witnessed myself, on this forum that my name is being thrown around and insulted. These actions are by people that I have never met in real life, nor had reason to be in conflict with. These actions are vile and despicable and speaks very poorly on the part of those who are doing it. Supposedly, these hateful actions are being perpetuated by questionable individuals who do it in the name of the language they say they hold dear. This is a paradox, let me illustrate: I have contributed to the language over the years in positive means, never in the negative. Those who attack me do so for the same cause as I did, the Cornish language. The reason(s): my choice of allegiance to the historical based orthographies of the language, being an academic and simply character assassination by lowly people. Clearly this is not positive for the sake of the very language that we all hold dear and all it being in shame on those who deal in this sort of behavior.
My name has been abused on this forum with no just cause as I have not, and will not, join it. You have presumed that Mr. Treworth here and another was me and until proof is forthcoming, I suggest you cease this child-like behavior. You have tied your own noose, so you will later hang for it I am sure. I swore off the Cornish language scene almost eight years ago and for this reason. People like Mr.Reeves here and apparently Mr. Bailey (whom I do not know by any means) sit on the back of the revival like bloated and festering boils, spitting their garbage on others, while expecting praise and respect at the same time. This is not going to happen. If you want respect, show it first. I have seen this kind of bickering and attacks by little children, not by supposed educated adults! I have looked over the various threads on this forum and was appalled by the terrible language and threats made to Mr. Everson, Williams, Climo, Chubb and myself! You would think that it has come to blows with the ferocity used by the pro-Kemmyn aggitators! Leave me out of it! This will be the one time I communicate with you here, or anywhere ever.
I WAS on the Kernowak list, but after a needless debate with someone over a pointless matter, I have come to realize that the revival has not matured with age. It never will, and I quit the list to relieve myself of the unneeded stress and drama. You all like it apparently. Mr. Reeves here thrives on it for a food source (like a parasite) since he cannot actually contribute to the revival, he is just a heckler or court jester on the sidelines. I may come forward once the Commission is done yes, but it depends on factors. My name, even my education has been mocked by people not deserving of writing about me, so please stop! I can see the wisdom in Dr. Williams wanting to not be around the likes of you. Disrespectful and hateful to the core, all of you.
A suggestion from an academic: use those alleged research skills you lot say you have and know your 'enemy' first! Otherwise you make new enemies without realizing it. Mr. Reeves alone has turned away countless people from wanting to ever learn the language himself. If that is his goal in this, then he has accomplished it! He also sides with a form of the language that he does even write in! When he can write in Cornish, he used some debased form of Late Cornish, not Kemmyn. So what is the point of his attacks on others? He, and others fail to offer up any substantial proof that their displeasure with UCR/UC/KS is bad at all, usually the problems are vague and mixed in their direction. Others I have noticed here, side with the aggressors simply because they are influenced by the myths (i.e., Kemmyn is the majority of speakers, etc, etc). On the contrary. If that were so, then when Mr. Treworth used UCR, should he have been using Kemmyn? Instead he was assaulted and mocked and Mr. Bailey even saw Welsh in his language? That shows a lack of the respect of others using the language, much less a great lack of critical knowledge in either Cornish or Welsh! The two are very different in their grammar and syntax and Mr. Treworth was true to form in the 'Clappya Kernowek.'
I think that if the Commissioners read these threads, they can clearly see the trouble-makers in the Revival and know which way to avoid on their final decision. The evidence is plenty enough supplied by all of you. I would think that if you really loved the language this much, you would realize when you have gone too far and stop. Because the foot-prints you leave behind you will forever follow you when this language is being mentioned in circles. I have seen arrogance, petty jealousy, incompetance in use of the language, slander and foolishness by several people here. Not people really endeared to preserving the language and keeping it. To add to this, I have seen very shoddy academics by some figures in the scene who should know better, but talk is cheap isn't it? If the Commission declines a decision and we do not gain the monetary grants, than we know who caused it. I do not think we academics would threaten it, and to correct you Mr. Bailey, our careers are fine either way the decision goes. We have worked hard to be where we are at, but people like you are arm-chair scholars with no level of respect for the real thing, much less experience doing it. Until you do it professionally, dont knock it.
I have a very deep respect and passion for Celtic civilization and will never endanger my place in it. I have spent 80% of my life researching it and being inspired by it, so please do not insult me or my love for it. When you do, it shows that you are the opposite in feelings about it. It also calls into question, why are you involved in the Cornish language at all? The language died. It was brought back by a nationalist and a romantic. Yet you claim we academics are all romantics. Perplexing. Restoring the language is a very romantic notion, I assume Mr. Bailey's poetry is not then romantic? Is it realistic? Poems about the sea and islands and sky? The pretty delicate images? Another paradox. Strangely your so-called involvement in the revival is NOT romantic yet meanwhile ours is? How is that? Because the mythical computer based generated orthography gets your futurism kick going? Or that the phrase 'Cornish for the 21st Century' is thrown around? Sounds very romantic to me! Do we not derive our grammars, dictionaries and class-work from academics? Yet we have people in your group (Kemmyn) that are not qualified to teach it on a school or academic level? How do you plan on resolving this mess? Lie and harass the officials at various institutions to give you a teaching job? That wont work. So to solve this, you have been attacking the only people in the end, that are properly qualified to educate others in the language, when you yourselves cannot do it! No academics to claim on your side, at least none that relate to Celtic studies or languages. Another problems it seems. I would willingly move to Cornwall to teach Cornish on the academic level if so asked, but it appears that I would need body guards to keep me safe from these dangerous people that bash me here and on CornishOrth.
So to end this lengthy tirade of mine: leave me alone, keep my name out of it as I am not participating in your little war here. Unlike most of you, I am busy and live and breath my passions in life, not waste time bickering with sociopathic people almost half a world away. To be truthful, I had forgotten all about you until recently and wish that I still did! It seems well known that Mr. Reeves and I have an unfortunate past online, but he was severely guilty of stalking me and others online, foraging dozens of fake profiles and personas (as he does to this very day!) and harassed us and our families until I could take no more. It was then I left the Revival. You would think that in that time since to this day, Mr. Reeves would have done something with his life (relating to Cornish) but it is still an empty slate. Ignore him, as I have told Mr. Treworth to do (and others), Mr. Reeves is a gnat on the backside of an elephant in the whole picture of the Revival. I would be friends with many of you in person I would gamble but you have an ability to make enemies from afar over matters that are out of your control.
Funny how the style of prose, the weird paranoid thought processes of Brian Young is exactly the same as that of jeettyworhty kind of like the Marhak/Craig Weetheralls dual personality.
Oh dear the poor Kernwackers, !.
Mr Young. Barth's knowledge of Cornish is far superior to yours and will always be. So before you accuse the Kemmynites of nastiness, I would look at your own rantings whether in the name of
Brian Young or Jeettyworthy.
Despite the evident frustrations in Brian Young's letter, there is a good deal of sense in there.
I expect I was not the only one dismayed to see all the dissent and nastiness seemingly festering behind the Cornish Language 'Movement'
and finding it plastered all over a prominent web forum for the world to see.
Mr. Young told me I would get this kind of response from you, so...I will simply ignore it for the garbage it really is. He also said your linguistic skills would reveal themselves in this 'wild accusation' because you are "a naturally paranoid lunatic out to damage the revival and nothing more."
Please leave the revival Mr. Reeves, we all tired of your rantings and psychotic muck.
I agree, there are some people on here gong out of their way to be as nasty as possible on here... And I for one never want anything to do with them. I wish that certain people could be kicked, they show Cornish in a very bad light...
Again, leave the revival completely. You say nothing but trash talk about people you do not know and you expect others to believe it! Are you on medication? If not, look up a chemist for some. And as for Barth/Bardh's knowledge of Cornish - doubtful it is that high. The delusional lad seems to think he is the Taliesin of Kernowek yet none of his language skills show themselves here, only the same talk the rest of you give. Where is the linguistic flexibility and mind blowing wordage one thinks of when you think of 'Bard?'
Mr. Young's style of writing and my own are similar, but then again, so are millions of people out there! You know why this is Mr. Reeves? We all are communicating on the same format: the written word! Imagine if we used cameras instead? What a visage you would bring!
Wrong approach, we need as many people as possible in the Revival - but we need them to behave sensibly and productively. I'd rather hang onto goky but have him change his attitude.
Mr Young isn't totally innocent, his reasons for leaving the Kernowak forum aren't precisely as he depicts them here.
I think he is, you just have personal reasons yourself for incriminating him. I have read the dialogues and they were pointless and revealed someone's problems not seen before on any forum, much less he left primarly due to the bickering and accusations, the same behavior you are showing here Flammnew! Might you be that other party? You are really naive about things aren't you?
It is amazing. Everything I have been told by Mr. Young et al about you people here is exact to the letter correct! You are: reactive, assuming, accusing, paranoid, delusional, hateful and illresponsible with the language that you claim means so much to you! If I weren't Cornish, I would leave the revival, but I want my heritage back. Even if i wade through this mine field of barkers to do it!
JTreworth
(P.S)Flammnew, if you have any evidence to the contrary I would love to hear it. I know Mr. Young might be interested in this conspiracy, if he is at all interested at what you have to say. Again, you do exactly what demeans the movement.
I promised Evertype I wouldn't copy from the Kernowak list to C24, so I'll have to paraphrase the list moderator, who said that Mr Young was moderated for being impolite, and took himself off the list in protest.
He says he was involved in a "pointless debate" - well if it was pointless why did he continue with it, to the point of incivility?
I take offence at being called "paranoid", "delusional" and "hateful", none of which are true. I'm not sure what "illresponsible" means but if I work it out I'll probably be offended by that as well.
Now, before I get uncivil myself, I'm off this thread. Enjoy!
The simple fact of the matter is: before you spread rumours aplenty, the matter became simply down to splitting hairs over a trivial topic not related to the Cornish language. And both parties in this debate were equally uncivil but Evertype seemed to show a bias towards the other party involved and did not intervene. Instead he turned on Mr. Young, and that was when he (Mr. Young) had it and left. He said he was tired of this needless bantering and lack of equality in the moderation on the list. Especially over a matter that was needlessly continued by the other party in the first place. I have copies of this exchange and it was really...well stupid. The other (who I wont mention) party was taking offence at nothing and felt he had to bicker over it, while Mr. Young repeatedly asked him to calm down and not take it so seriously and ultimately, how did this topic have any importance to Cornish? It did not.
You people make alot of nothing out of nothing! And what do you get from it all? Nothing. Ironically, I guess people have to watch their P's and Q's around here and on the Kernowak list! Only less than 10% of the talk on this forum is actually about the language in a positive way, the rest is refuse.
I may go overboard a bit, but I play the joker, my attention is only against the nasty side of the Kernowacky fringe, starting back with the Piper, and his vitriol which was accepted as a perfect example of Celtic Satire by non other than Everson, and thenn we move on to Eddie C, and now I have finally made BY come out of his hole.
I am not here to present linguistic arguments, I leave that to the actual Cornish speakers, most of whom on here appear to be KK users, as I have said and others before me, the KS crowd are more interested in destroying the revival rather than helping it.
it was good satire. You just didn't like it because it was aimed at you.
We are not interested in "destroying the Revival". What nonsense. Our KS draft is by any estimation a very good piece of work. It is precise and accurate. It does what it sets out to do. You can't just dismiss it because it didn't come from Ken George. And you can't do so with lies about us wanting to "destroy the Revival".
Except than to register the fact, the latest attacks (and assumptions) by the well-named Goky merit no further response from me other than to invite my contempt. I expect than when I next see Craig Weatherhill (G. hasn't even the courtesy to spell his name right)for a pint, he will say something similar but, knowing him, he'll express it in one short word. He will not be asking me to post any more letters: he's far too busy on his own work and the new book about the archaeology of Cornwall.
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