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'One Cornwall' - Can Of Worms / Can Of Beans / Crock of S*it ?

Allister Posted: 21.01.2008, 00:08

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QuoteI agree, stop clinging on to Countries not your own, give them back to the natives, and English, that means vacate Britain and move back to Germany, where you can have a feel what it is like, a country repressed by another, that will teach you gits.


I guess the Celts should all piss off back to Iberia as well, should they?






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TeamKernow Posted: 21.01.2008, 00:39

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Do you think Cornwall would be best served by a so-called 'Unitary Authority' or a proper Cornish Assembly with devolved powers more akin to what Wales and Scotland currently have,Allister?
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Allister Posted: 21.01.2008, 18:32

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QuoteDo you think Cornwall would be best served by a so-called 'Unitary Authority' or a proper Cornish Assembly with devolved powers more akin to what Wales and Scotland currently have,Allister?


It depends on how one would judge being "best served". Will there really be that much difference between a Unitary Authority and an Assembly in terms of how it actually effects the day to day running of people's lives? Would we not essentially have the same people in charge of the U.A as we would with the Assembly?

I believe in devolved powers to Cornwall and I am still open to persuasion on which governmental institution will provide the greater.

I also believe that the only way to get what is required (true self governance) is to re-educate the Cornish population on the history of Cornwall and the Cornish national identity (which in my experience a lot of people are ashamed to admit that they are Cornish and convince themselves that they are English. These people need to be aided in coming out of the proverbial closet) and to convince them that self governance is actually in their interests.

Symbolically an Assembly would best serve the interests of the Cornish identity.



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moonshine Posted: 21.01.2008, 19:47

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QuoteSymbolically an Assembly would best serve the interests of the Cornish identity.


Classic.
We just need a load of symbolic voters, then we could all live in the country formally know as Kernow.
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Allister Posted: 21.01.2008, 22:06

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QuoteWe just need a load of symbolic voters, then we could all live in the country formally know as Kernow.


Where did that come from?






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fletch_2002 Posted: 22.01.2008, 02:15

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That did seem pretty uncalled for. He made a valid statement.
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TeamKernow Posted: 09.02.2008, 22:20

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http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifAndrew George(St Ives) - 2005http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

'MOTION TO CORNWALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATS’ CONFERENCE
12TH NOVEMBER 2005

WE:

Recall a decision taken at the Cornwall Conference on 3rd November 2001 to “recommend that the Party campaigns for a devolved and democratically elected Regional Assembly for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly”; and that of the Party’s Federal Conference which, in March 2002, resolved that:
“the devolution settlement must be sufficiently flexible to achieve variable geography, variable timetable and variable powers to suit the differing needs of the regions, and to cater for the claims of areas with distinct identities which aspire to regional status”;

Deplore the failure of the Labour Government to understand that devolution is about “letting go” rather than “holding on” to power - a failure which has led to the strong rejection of regional government on their terms in the North East referendum last November; and further deplore the onward march of Government plans to remove and centralise local government powers for emergency control, strategic planning, police management and other essential services;

Recognise that the Liberal Democrats are acknowledged as the primary champions of devolution, as the pre-eminent Party in Cornwall and, in willingly accepting the burden of responsibility, are prepared to make full use of our strong position to campaign for and, in time, deliver an effective and more decentralised system of regional and local government;

Therefore support the Policy Paper prepared for this Conference which sets out the principles which underpin the campaign for decentralisation to a Cornish Regional Assembly which

1. acknowledge Cornwall’s special status and distinctiveness;

2. accept that any programme of devolution to a Cornish tier of strategic regional government should be a precursor to the resolution of how local government should then be structured;

3. recognise that any new regional and local structure should result in fewer and not more politicians;

4. resolve that any new Cornish Regional Authority should have a direct relationship with Government and Government departments without being required to communicate through bodies which represent a wider Government zone;

5. recognise that this would, however, not preclude or present an impediment to any decision by a Cornish authority to seek the benefits of the economies of scale to achieve cost-efficient delivery of services, either through established quangos or other partnership arrangements as and when decided; and
therefore recommend that the Party leads the campaign for a devolved and democratically elected Regional Assembly for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly within the clear context of the Party’s firm and unequivocal commitment to the promotion of racial and community tolerance as well as cultural diversity. '



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'Unitary Authority is defective

The MP for the West Cornwall constituency of St Ives, Andrew George, told the Government’s Local Government Minister, Rt. Hon John Healey MP, that the Parliamentary order to create a Single Unitary Authority for Cornwall was “technically, legally and politically defective” and that he would do as he had long promised and vote against the order at the first opportunity.


Mr George was speaking in a Committee debate held in the Commons yesterday (7th February 2008).

He told the Minister that he would have to do more to ensure that Cornwall could realise its ambitions to gain more power from Central Government and unelected quangos in the Government zone of the South West.

Mr George criticised the order for being legally defective – not having the power to cancel elections in Penwith this year, nor for other plans – technically defective, in that it failed to abolish Cornwall County Council along with District Council’s as previously promised – and politically defective - for failing to provide the structures to devolve powers to Cornwall, nor the internal structures to give local communities the ability to run their own affairs.

Mr George, who had voted against the Government’s Local Government Act – which creates the framework for unitary local government – at every stage last year, accused the Minister of producing a ‘minimalist’ regulation which failed to meet the ambitions of the people of Cornwall.

Mr George also poured scorn on the Conservative MP, Mark Prisk, from Hertford, who he accused of engaging in petty opportunism and putting Party tribalism above the interests of Cornwall.

Although the Minister indicated that he was prepared to back down on his plans to postpone Parish Council elections until 2013, Mr George did not feel that the Minister had gone far enough and that he would stick to his long held commitments, as he reiterated throughout the process, and vote against the order when he has an opportunity in Parliament in two weeks time.'




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moonshine Posted: 09.02.2008, 22:52

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Allister
QuoteWe just need a load of symbolic voters, then we could all live in the country formally know as Kernow.


Where did that come from?



A reflection of the number of people who voted for MK with a touch of Prince name-changing.

Does everyone in the Cornish movement vote for MK in general elections?
If not why?

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TeamKernow Posted: 09.02.2008, 23:25

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How is it that Andrew George appears to have political Convergence uppermost in mind

while

David Whalley appears to have mis-spending monetary Convergence via the vehicle of the toytown yet to be ratified non-Unitary Authority on rubbish and mad ideas like a single waste furnace and daft regressive 50's think gross, unnecessary,loss-making and polluting expansion of New quay Airport uppermost in mind?

Total Divergence.

Members of the same political party?

Shurely shome mishtake...
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TeamKernow Posted: 10.02.2008, 00:51

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Perhaps Colin Breed, Dan Rogerson, Julia Goldsworthy and Matthew Taylor , with the backing of Paul Tyler and Nick Clegg, will support Andrew George and put on a display of true 'One And All' national solidarity at Westminster to rescue Cornwall from the sketchy and ignorant navigation towards the rocks of everlasting subservience by the anglo-centric lickspittle toadying cabal currently steering Cornwall away from her destiny of coming alongside Scotland and Wales as long-denied more autonomous and self-determining territorial entities within the UK.

After all,the MPs have a bigger electoral mandate than the Cornwall Cabal Councillors and they all had the objective of achieving a proper Cornish Assembly in their most recent Liberal Democrat head office approved election manifestos...

And that toytown nonUnitary Authority proposal has no democratic electoral mandate at all...


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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 10.02.2008, 14:49

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QuoteTotal Divergence.

Members of the same political party?

Shurely shome mishtake...


My thoughts exactly TK!

The Cornish Democrat
The Breton Connection
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Lanval Posted: 10.02.2008, 17:05

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MK equals waste of time !!!!! Old, sandal wearing middle class prats !!!!!!!!!! who will soon disappear al2gether. When did they ever make the papers or TV. Most of them r lining their own pockets writing books about old cornwall.

''TOO MANY MK WORDS LIKE 'SANDALS' & 'BEARDS' EQUALS A KERNOW FOREVER UNDER THE ENGLISH AND THEIR IMPERIAL ESTABLISHMENT ! MK AS MUCH USE TO KERNOW AS A FART IN A SPACESUIT
= REPUBLICAN KERNOW NOW !''
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 10.02.2008, 17:51

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You're a bit mad aren't you?

What really suprises me is that these people actually think they are helping.

Like I said are they helping towards Cornish unity and to promote the Cornish cause to the people of Kernow.....

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TeamKernow Posted: 13.03.2008, 15:37

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http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifListen Again to a 'Branding' of Cornwall Debatehttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif (for 6 days)
that took place today, Thursday March 13th 13.10-14.00,
on the BBClone Radio (anti)Cornwall Anglo-Imperialist Laurence Reed Show.


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TeamKernow Posted: 13.03.2008, 20:30

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Introducing......

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifThe Toytown Unitary Authority Ganghttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif


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