V Tree
A large V shaped pine tree on the Antony estate near Torpoint...
Seaton Beach
Located at the bottom of the Seaton River valley this sand and shingle beach is popular with families. At low tide it joins up with Downderry around the headland...
Seaton River
The Seaton River as it flows out of the valley and through the village of the same name...
Portwrinkle
Looking down over the one time fishing village of Portwrinkle. In the background is the start of Whitsand Bay as it stretches 4 miles down the Rame Peninsula...
I've heard it said that some people have a particular way of saying the name "Pengelly", but this is one for the dialect and place-name experts.
The Welsh is goleu-dy which would sound like "go-LOY-dee" [go'l@1d1]. I heard a local Cornish person say the dialect word on the radio a little while ago, and it sounded to me very like the Welsh word, so I wonder if somehow someone who'd lived in Wales had brought the word back with them -- not impossible. I wonder if it's used in Welsh English?
Letti 'dairy' is from leth + ti 'milk' + 'house'. The combination of th+t regularly give a double tt and this will have been quite an old compound so -ti rather than chi ~ ji. For 'lighthouse' I'd expect go'low-di if the compound was old, but golow-ji perhaps with the last bit stressed (???) if it's relatively modern. There's no reason to have a t in there that I can see. Of course the word might well have morphed once it passed into dialect, including the stress shifting.
However I'll bow before the wisdom of the dialect and placename experts, they must have gone into this, surely?
There's a song with the refrain Ceidwad y goleudy ydwyf i...
Unlike twp, bach, cariad, bara brith ... it's not used in the Welsh version of English, as far as I know. The word Craig transcribes as 'gol'ty' doesn't look a particularly strong candidate for being a cognate. The jury's not even gone out on this one.
Yes, "goleudy" is the Welsh word. My mistake. Is the compound old or not? Hard to say. I don't think any Cornish or Scillonian lighthouse pre-dates 1600; however, there were navigational beacons on medieval chapels 300 years earlier - Chapel Carn Brea and Chapel Jane being two known examples (I'll bet that St Nicholas's Chapel, right on top of The Island, St Ives, was another). There's no record as to whether the word was ever applied to them, though. Nor does it appear in any known place-name.
I think, on the balance of evidence, that the scales might tip in favour of "golowty".
Having mentioned the word "Scillonian", future dictionaries need to include the Cornish word for "a Scillonian (person)". You'll find this in Charles Thomas's superb book on the submergence of Scilly: "Explorations of a Drowned Landscape" (Batsford 1985). You'll find it on Page 62, where Prof. Thomas says:
"The Borough Accounts of St Ives for 1523 include a man described as 'John Thomas, Sullouk'; and this word could represent a *Sillewek, *Sullewek, formed by imitating the better-known word *Kernewek.". (We already know that Scilly in Cornish is recorded as "Sillan, Zillan, Syllan" - not Enesow Syllan, just Syllan, by the way).
I dare say that we could slightly respell this as *Syllowek.
I think that, back in the 80s, the Kesva made a fundamental mistake. Instead of saying, "Look, we're embracing Kemmyn, but we will also take the other versions on board with us", they turned their backs on the other forms. Whatever the accusations and counter-accusations of deep skullduggery, it was this that, more than anything, created the split. Had the Kesva agreed to embrace all current forms, it would have remained fully united (unified?), retained its original mandate,and kept the factional nastiness to an absolute minimum or even avoided it altogether. It's a mistake that can now be rectified - if the Kesva has the will to do so.
Keith, ole pard, why now claim that AT and the RLC groups had "outside backing"? It's not correct and unecessary. If this was really true, something would have been said long before now. It ain't so. No one ever accused any of our members (or RLC users) of being former members of English nationalist movements, have they?
There you go, Nosdan. All the information you need.
Evertype, it would be good if you could post links to the other papers as well, before some disenchanted Kebmynite like 'redennek' sends them to me anyway.
There is something I don't understand about the paper (remember, a gowetha, I'm not a linguist so I have no qualms, as some do, about owning up to ignorance). It's this -
Williams and Everson appear to have "discovered" something we all knew already. That superlative adjectives have geminate consonants in them. We write 'kottha' and 'gwettha' and 'perfeyttha' and 'gwanna' and 'pella' already, so what's new?
I'm a little suspicious of the sentence in the paper that says 'tth' now meets with approval "because it is clear that there is a linguistic development here not just a theoretical construct".
So a little further explanation for the man on the Redruth omnibus wouldn't go amiss.
Its an interesting idea, I would be interested if you could tell me is this a regular development through tregear... does it happen in all superlatives or just a select few?
Also if this is a newly discovered thing, why did some users already aspirate?
And is there any evidence of this aspiration in the other late fragments?
All seven of them are available in a single link toward the bottom of the page at kernowak.com.
The development here shows aspiration. The aspirate consonants may have geminated, but the aspirated pronunciation is legitimate and it should be permitted to write it.
We do not approve of <tth> alone. It is part of a set with <lh> and <nh>.
I doubt very, very, much if he meant Jenefer would be circulating the result to everyone (i.e. making it public) today. I'll be stunned into silence (which might please many of you) if he did and she does.
While a distinction of duration between [T] and [TT] (or [T:] if you prefer) is perfectly possible, I can't see you could have *[Th] or *[TTh] since at the purely articulatory level the hiss of the [T] would drown out any superimposed aspiration. I cannot recall ever seeing a language which made this distinction, do you know of one Michael? That does not rule out the possibility that [T:] might be represented phonemically as /Th/ if for some reason that made systematic sense. But then all phonologies are theoretical, just ways of accounting for the observed phonetic facts.
This is a most unfortunate choice. <oo> is a manifestly English spelling that sits uneasily with the rest of the orthography. We have all seen that it leads to risible spellings like poos and loos. But the worst aspect is that it will be nearly impossible to persuade English speakers that <oo> should be pronounced [o:].
It is advisable to check everything that Evertype writes. I have checked my copy of PSRC. It says that <oo> was "considered but dismissed"; although "historically correct [i.e. it was used in Late Cornish vernacular spelling], it suggests [u:] rather than [o:]". Nowhere does it say that <oo> would be an acceptable graph.
ShelterBox team in 'good spirits'
A Cornish charity packs another 1,000 survival boxes after becoming one of the first teams into the Burmese cyclone zone.
Man hurt in 'tombstoning' plunge
A man suspected of "tombstoning" off a cliff in Cornwall is in hospital with spinal injuries
Work begins to repair canal gates
Work is under way to repair the storm-damaged lock gates of Cornwall's Bude Canal.
Brown wants more homes for young
Gordon Brown says he wants to help young people in Cornwall buy houses
Gangmaster hits back after losing licence
A gangmaster has spoken out after having his licence revoked amid claims of forced labour.
Pupil's punishment 'not enough'
A mother criticises a one-day suspension for a pupil who attacked her daughter at a Cornish school.
Prime Minister visits Eden
The Prime Minister made an impromptu visit to Cornwall today and enjoyed an extensive tour of the Eden Project.
Flora day celebrations
Thousands flocked to Helston's ancient Flora Day on Thursday and while they arrived in their droves, rain - thankfully - stayed (mostly) away.
