V Tree
A large V shaped pine tree on the Antony estate near Torpoint...
Seaton Beach
Located at the bottom of the Seaton River valley this sand and shingle beach is popular with families. At low tide it joins up with Downderry around the headland...
Seaton River
The Seaton River as it flows out of the valley and through the village of the same name...
Portwrinkle
Looking down over the one time fishing village of Portwrinkle. In the background is the start of Whitsand Bay as it stretches 4 miles down the Rame Peninsula...
Of course the problem at this point may simply be a lack of resources to get the editing and secretarial work done. If the Partnership can't keep the MAGA site updated then maybe they are being overwhelm in some manner that is taking all their time and energy. Hopefully it isn't in answering nasty questions.
Just consider the "side-forms". What use are these to man or beast?
They are not really official. Officials/schoolteachers will understand them and not object to them, by they cannot be used in official texts and correspondence. Of course anyone who wishes is free to use them ...
But hold on a minute, as Jenny has told us over and over, the SWF is only for schools and the Council, and we can all write Cornish however we like (isn't that generous of them!)
But if you're say a UCR fan, then what's the point of writing (in your mind flawed) UCR-falvoured SWF-side-form, when you might as well write full-on UCR? So the side-forms are a pointless political gesture which only serve to complicate the SWF.
Since the side-forms are worthless in practice, and the Partnership have already acknowledged our right to use our old established forms in private, non-funded publications etc., they are costing the Partnership nothing. All they are doing is encouraging the anti-KK factions with a token gesture. (Quite what gesture that might be I won't even venture to guess).
Since the side-forms are commitment-free why can't we have ours too please? Why are all the side-forms anti-KK? C'mon acknowledge <oe> and <-nn> and the rest as side forms, in effect give the same (empty) recognition to KK practice as has been given to all the rest.
Then we'd at least have a level playing-field.
After all most of us (KK or other) and going to merrily contiue in our old accustomed ways, so the Partnership could do a lot worse than to quietly acknowledge the status quo.
In the early stages of negotiation, "options" were permitted. A person could choose to pre-occlude or not (and write it bm/dn or not as mm/nn). A person could choose to write hw/kw or wh/qw.
Then during negotiations Vocalic Alternation (which is a part of UC, UCR, RLC, and KS) proved to be difficult for the KK representatives. So they decided that they would accept VA if the wh/qw "options" were relegated to "side forms" so that hw/kw could be "main forms".
So the whole main-form/side-form thing has no real meaning. They are "options" designed to give choice to people who want a choice. Unfortunately now some sort of "hierarchy" has been introduced. In my view, this will serve only to perpetuate a divide amongst Revivalists.
Why are the Side-Forms anti-KK? Because the KK reps insisted on having their forms as the Main forms if they were going to be forced to write Vocalic Alternation. The playing field isn't "level", Keith. Your lot have a Main Form. Our lot have a Side Form which still does not meet our minimum requirements (Accuracy and Authenticity).
<nn> cannot be a KK side-form because <nn>/<mm> relate to <dn>/<bm>.
Thank you for that clarification, as you know all of this just dribbles out a bit at a time, and no-one really seems to have the whole picture. Now there are "varients" (is that the word?) which represent acknowledged developments in the language, usually from MC to LC, like _mm_ >> _bm_ and _chi_ to _choy_ and a few others. These I have to say don't really bother me. They reflect real changes in Cornish over time and/or space, and the preferences of some present-day speakers. They don't generally depend on who's reconstruction you accept or reject. And these are 1st Class Citizens and may be used Officially should the Official in question so desire or deem appropriate. Also in publically funded publications etc.
OTOH, as far as I can see the "side-forms" have no real official status apart from a sort of toleration. Which is worthless since they will tolerate whatever Cornish is used outside of officialdom, unless I suppose it's so bizarre as to be unintelligible. So all they are is a political sop, to AT in particular. They have been clearly banished from active official use and from active use in Education (so I've been led to believe). Of course they'll turn up in 'advanced' studies, but so will Mordonnek, and the 'traditional' texts themselves, or at least I very much hope they will. So what does this 'toleration' of the side-forms amount to in practise? A little lip service? A political fig-leaf? A smoke-screen to keep AT on board? Beyond that SFA IMO.
So why bother? Or if it's politic to give to one side, why not extend the same generosity to both. Given that it amounts to nothing more than empty words?
If you recall, Keith, the SWF was to have been based upon KD with KS input. Neither included <k, hw, kw> and so those graphs were not originally on the table at all. We not only gave them back to you as part of a deal, but with Main Form status to boot. This process is about the whole spectrum of Cornish users, not just one faction. So there's no reason to brand us the bad boys. We've actually been the good guys from your point of view. So be nice to us.
I don't like the terms "Main Form" and "Side Form" which were only provisional titles for convenience's sake. I'd prefer "Official Form" and "Traditional Form" (Then Tim can call us Traditionalists rather than Authenticists).
Charity to send more Burma kits
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Brown wants more homes for young
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Gangmaster hits back after losing licence
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Pupil's punishment 'not enough'
A mother criticises a one-day suspension for a pupil who attacked her daughter at a Cornish school.
Prime Minister visits Eden
The Prime Minister made an impromptu visit to Cornwall today and enjoyed an extensive tour of the Eden Project.
Flora day celebrations
Thousands flocked to Helston's ancient Flora Day on Thursday and while they arrived in their droves, rain - thankfully - stayed (mostly) away.
RAF Nimrods 'had fuel problems'
A Nimrod plane in which 14 servicemen including a Cornishman died had a fuel problem, an inquest hears.
