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porthia1947 Posted: 03.06.2005, 22:17



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Why is the war criminal Milosevic receiving the kind of justice that he and his sick and twisted testosterone soaked throw-backs never thought of giving the Bosnian people he and they butchered?
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Diane Posted: 04.06.2005, 01:36

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"porthia1947"Why is the war criminal Milosevic receiving the kind of justice that he and his sick and twisted testosterone soaked throw-backs never thought of giving the Bosnian people he and they butchered?


Seeing the video of those young Muslim lads taken out and shot struck horror in me, we didn't see the full tape on the news, but we saw enough to shock. We put these things in the back of our minds and are jolted back to reality by tapes like this. How could the world allow that to happen, we always hear, we'll never let a holicaust happen again and here it is and it's not the only instance.
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troll Posted: 04.06.2005, 19:05



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"porthia1947"Why is the war criminal Milosevic receiving the kind of justice that he and his sick and twisted testosterone soaked throw-backs never thought of giving the Bosnian people he and they butchered?


Because that would lower theirselves to his level.
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porthia1947 Posted: 07.06.2005, 18:31



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Yes I understand that troll but it would seem to me he is being allowed access to infinite resources to defend himself, much more than most people accused of murder get access to. I am not saying he shouldn't be given a fair trial, but like Pinochet and others that have tacitly or otherwise given the nod to horrific brutal acts by those under them, the assistance they get to defend themselves seems out of all proportion.
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morgarrow Posted: 08.06.2005, 01:32

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Talking about Pinochet, I see from Beeb world news (see link r/hand column) that one human right's lawyer has highlighted the fact that in a Santiago court ruling over his alleged tax evasion, judges seem to find it unacceptable that Pinochet might be a thief but consider the possibility that he could be a murderer unimportant.
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CornishIntifada Posted: 01.07.2005, 04:01



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The Serbs were the victims. The muslims blew up the market place and stoked the ar under the ISLAMIST izetbegovic who wanted Bosnia to be an islamic state......even members of the UN said that. The biggest ethnic cleanising since 1945 was done by the Croations of the Serbs of the Krajina with the help of Clinton and Blair. Now there is another ethnic cleansing in Kosovo by the Albanians. if anything the Croations provide a role model for us Cornish - agitate when whte UK is in a state of of flux or has its next civil war and then break off -and ally ourselves with a bigger power.
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porthia1947 Posted: 01.07.2005, 04:34



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Rather than take Cornishintifada's word for it read a less biased viewpoint in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alija_Izetbegovic
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CornishIntifada Posted: 01.07.2005, 04:47



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NO take my word for it.....the whole yugoslavian mess was Izetbegovics and clintons. Izetbegovic reneged on the whole peace agreement at Lisbon

Lisbon Agreement on Bosnia: On March 18, 1992, or twenty three days prior to any shot being fired or a life lost in Bosnia, the European Community, following Helsinki and CSCE principles, summoned the leaders of the three Bosnian ethnic groups to Lisbon. They were persuaded to reach a consensus prior to the declaration of independence, as required by their Constitution. The leaders of these groups SIGNED an agreement, MAPS AND ALL,Izetbegovic, who always dreamed of a unitary Islamic state, was encouraged by our Ambassador to withdraw his signature. Thirteen days later, full scale civil war commenced. Who started it? Izetbegovic's boys. Among their other "achievements", they can also claim the slaughtered 92 cadets of "Marshal Tito Military Academy," Yugoslavia's equivalent to Westpoint. A solemn promise by Izetbegovic "of free passage" meant nothing. These boys, ages 17-21, who had yet to fire rifle, were cut to peaces while sitting in their buses. General Ratko Mladic promised never to forget that atrocity."


http://www.srpska-mreza.com/authors/Gil-White/alija1.html

“... the Islamic movement may, or rather should, begin by seizing power as soon as it possesses a good measure of moral and numerical strength, allowing it not only to overthrow the non-Islamic power, but also to establish the new Islamic power.� IZETBEGOVIC


maybe the muslims of Bosnia provide a blueprnt for us when all LEGAL AVENUES ARE EXHAUSTED?? what do you think? "The media portrays a local ethnic population with a weakness for racism as an 'oppressed nation'. This group is mobilized against a real nation that has been the historic object of its hatred. It is encouraged to launch terrorist attacks against the real nation. The media portrays this terror as a tragically violent attempt to win justified demands. NATO and the UN intervene, aiding and abetting the terrorists to destroy the target nation."
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CJenkin Posted: 01.07.2005, 11:38



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Cornish Intifada - your claims lack any real objectivity or historical understanding. Yugoslavia was a 'mess' long before Clinton or Izetbegovic were involved.
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The Serbs were the victims

To make such a statement when there is plenty of evidence of serb aggression shows that you are blinded to the real human tragedy of the war in the former Yugoslavia.

To make any comparison with Cornwall and its problems shows that you have little real understanding of Cornish culture, people and their view of the world.

Your comments smack of racism, imperialism and violence - none of which are welcome in Cornwall.

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if anything the Croations provide a role model for us Cornish - agitate when whte UK is in a state of of flux or has its next civil war and then break off -and ally ourselves with a bigger power.

These are the types of words used by racists and fascists.
I would prefer people of any colour or creed who respect Cornish communities to live in Cornwall than 'White' racist/fascist moving in from over the Tamar.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 01.07.2005, 11:55

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These are the types of words used by racists and fascists.
I would prefer people of any colour or creed who respect Cornish communities to live in Cornwall than 'White' racist/fascist moving in from over the Tamar.


Well said!

But i think he is some kind of sock puppet, his only aime is to try and attach Cornish cultural and political issues to far right obnoxious rubish.
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HarvsPenzance Posted: 01.07.2005, 15:44



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I agree. This 'Cornish Intifada' character has peppered this forum with highly annoying and inflammatory comments over the last 24 hours.

I hope this forum isn't going to be ruined by these mindless and insulting postings. I do enjoy a good argument, and even a bit of childish bickering icon_wink but I believe some comments have caused great offence.

I am a passionate believer in free speech, but some people just abuse the privilege.
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CornishIntifada Posted: 02.07.2005, 17:24



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Well please explain how Izetbegovic was a nice man and just a poor multiculturalist??? other than just a statement saying so - i have provided links for what I said. The Bosnians had an SS division in ww2 and went around killing Serbs and jews. Amazingly after bombing Serbia the serbs still like us and the Americans! Yugoslavia wasn't a mess until certain war mongers in Clitnons admin and the likes of Germany made it one. America who flew in weapons in Tuzla to Izetbegovic. Ultimately this was all about oil - currying favour with the arabs. The Serbs were victims. They had the Lisbon agreement and then the muslims reneged. Serbia never entered that war - if they had of there wouldn't be a Croatia or Bosnia. The serbs didn't want to live in an islamic state. What happened to the Muslims of Bihac that were anti-izetbegovic the islamist????? What happened to the Serbs of Krajina?? I can tell you one thing. We are an older nation than the "Bosnians" or "Palestinians" - these are made up peoples of the 20th century. Bosnians are Serbian/Croation converts to Islam to curry favour with their then OVERLORDS the Turks. Yet WE are not even recognised by our "overlords" you can't even put a Cornish flag up. The goverment prefers to recognise the 150 year old people known as "travellers" - well at least they are
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CornishIntifada Posted: 02.07.2005, 17:31



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lastly I am sorry if I appear "mindless" and "insulting" - I am just using rhetoric. I may appear far right to you but then you appear on the far left to me - but just look at the language of msulism on palestine. Look at the he language of the english.....I am just using their thoughts and ideas and putting it into a cornish context. The cornish have no measurable self determination -the current imperial Gauleiter of Cornwall Doris Ansari doesn't want to know we exist. You have to remember we Cornish should stick together. If you reject me my brothers I still accept you.
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CornishIntifada Posted: 02.07.2005, 17:47



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Diane -this was a brutal war. The propaganda wheel were spinning very fast http://www.srpska-mreza.com/authors/Gil-White/alija2.html

- the muslim was probably shot because:

he was a combatant

he represented an army that had murdered Serbian peasant villagers - After June 8, 1992, there remained only 13 Serbs, elderly men and women in the village of Ledici, the commune of Trnovo, most of whom met their death at the hands of Moslem-Croat military formations commanded by Ethem Godinjak [a Moslem], Head of the Secretariat of Internal Affairs in Trnovo before the war.

In this way was killed Rade Mijovcic (f. Aleksa), 70 years old. His body was found on August 7 with the head severed from the rest of the body.

The body of Savka Vasic (f. Nikola), a woman 78 years old, who was butchered on her doorstep, was also found without the head.

On October 5, 1992, Moslem armed formations attacked the house of Sreten Djokic [a Serb] in the village of Divovici near Srebrenica, and two days later the bodies of the people killed in Divovici were handed over to the Serbs.

The body of Sreten Djokic was given without the head and the right arm. On the neck hung a patch of skin with hair from the top of his head.

The head and the arm were never found and the body was buried without them.

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Srebrenica/Pumphrey.html - this is an article NOT WRITTEN BY A SERB about the "massacre" of Srebenica...........
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porthia1947 Posted: 02.07.2005, 18:04



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Sounds like the kind of material put out by Serb ultranationalist or extreme pro-Serbian agencies Cornishintifada.
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