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Coady Posted: 25.07.2006, 19:25

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Fulub, thanks, but I was already firmly of the belief that Cornwall was, for a significant time, a separate 'unit', having been taught it "at Granny's knee"

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k Posted: 12.08.2006, 13:36



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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/kw/d/d2/Ukkernow.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/British_isles_802.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maps_of_Cornwall
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marhak Posted: 12.08.2006, 15:09

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Just thought I'd mention this. If anyone wants a (free) modern map of anywhere in Cornwall, from 1:10,000 scale up to 1: 1000, enter Cornish Key Mapping into Google. Brilliant service.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 29.09.2006, 17:57

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Maps from English nationalists.

Wessex: http://www.engl...wessexlg.jpg

Counties pre Heath: http://www.engl...untieslg.jpg

Funny the Isle of Man and the Duchy of Cornwall are included.



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Coady Posted: 30.09.2006, 03:57

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Cornwall has long been thought of by many as a county of England. King Charles 1 clearly thought so when he wrote a letter copied to all the churches and chapels in Cornwall during the English Civil War in the mid 1600s.
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Penwithian_in_California Posted: 30.09.2006, 05:50



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Maps from English nationalists.

Wessex: http://www.englandism.com/images/mapwessexlg.jpg

Counties pre Heath: http://www.englandism.com/images/mapcountieslg.jpg

Funny the Isle of Man and the Duchy of Cornwall are included.


Perhaps they thought that none of us 'simple folk' with our 'traditional ways' would notice......? Or perhaps they thought that they'd starved our economy so badly, and brought us to our economic kness in such a way that we wouldn't care? Beggin' yer pardon kind sir, but as us 'simple folk' know only too well, there's 20,000 that know the reason why...............!
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Penwithian_in_California Posted: 30.09.2006, 05:55



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(holds hat humbly in hand whilst looking upward through downtrodden eyes)
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CJenkin Posted: 30.09.2006, 09:25



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Cornwall has long been thought of by many as a county of England. King Charles 1 clearly thought so when he wrote a letter copied to all the churches and chapels in Cornwall during the English Civil War in the mid 1600s.

But funnily enough it was the Duke that Cornish forces swore allegiance to. Caxton produced a state sponsored map of Cornwall as a 'County' in the late 1500s and Carew described Cornwall as a County in early 1600s before that Cornwall clearly has much higher status amongst the followers of the monarch. Cornish language speakers (judging from the plays) saw it very differently. With the decline of the language and influence of Stannary institutions, Cornwall became more 'county'-ised in the view of our centralised country. Read the 'West Britons' by Mark Stoyle to get a good idea of Cornish identity and views at this time.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 29.01.2007, 17:45

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Well there you go a new map of the foreshore of the Duchy: http://www.duch...theduchy.htm

Seems to be alot of "Cornish" foreshore owned by the Duke!



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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 13.02.2007, 21:57

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How anoying that none of the old links work on C24 anymore its really a bit disheartening.

Anyway this site has stacks of old maps:http://freepage...s/index.html


Here is one my Ortelius in 1667 called 'Ingliterra' that includes Cornwall and Wales. Both Wales and Cornwall contain 'Wallis"http://freepage...rra_1667.htm

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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 16.02.2007, 12:12

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And here are loads of maps of Kernow some showing Cornwall as a Duchy next to Devonshire: http://freepage...ges/corn.htm

Worth a look.





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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 02.03.2007, 20:17

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Hope this works: http://cartweb....ew-dhtml.xsl


Devonshire seems to have fallen of the map, but it dosen't suprise me, even today continental map makers often mark the peninsula with Cornwall.



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angofbew Posted: 02.03.2007, 21:05

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CoadyCornwall has long been thought of by many as a county of England. King Charles 1 clearly thought so when he wrote a letter copied to all the churches and chapels in Cornwall during the English Civil War in the mid 1600s.


Graham, I think that you will find that the meaning of the word County was different then. It seems the meaning of the word County has changed over the Centuries. So Mate I do not think that this posting really has a relevance to the actual situation.
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angofbew Posted: 02.03.2007, 21:09

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Ooops sorry. Glad to see you back by the way Graham.
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angofbew Posted: 02.03.2007, 21:14

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Another thought. I think you will find the word Shire a much more reasonable indicator for the point you are trying to make. Of course Cornwall was never referred to as such, and in fact Cornwall had it's own Shires. e.g West Wievelshire (forgive the spelling)
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