I've moved my self out of the EU to keep the EU obsessive crazy monkey watching club happy.
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Thanks Alister. You have just asked the $64,000 question that no one wants to look at.
Firstly, you could be partly right about the collapse of the floors crushing things to smithereens. However, I've had a few monkey thoughts. If the floors pancaked down it would involve each floor ripping itself from the main 47 central core girders and dropping to the next floor to repeat the process,and so on to the ground. Surely the core steel girders should be left still standing if the force is all vertical? Where did they all go? Ok, maybe the top piece crushed them. Many engineers and architects are questioning this though.
And, each floor as it falls will have its speed slowed by the resistance of the next. The buildings fell roughly at free fall rate so a big discrepancy there. Another is that pretty much all the concrete was turned to a fine dust, this is not compatible with other buildings that have collapsed before. There's always a set of pancakes at the bottom. Check out earthquake photos.
When the second tower first started to collapse you can clearly see from video footage the floors above the crash area tipping over as a complete block. yet in the aftermath there was no sign of the results of a free falling chunk of skyscraper. Nor was it the victim of a pancake collapse. So imagine dropping the top half of a skyscraper from a great height, would it completely turn to dust? I don't think so. I'd expect a heap of concrete and twisted steel. It did in fact vanish to all intent and purposes.
How many uncrushable objects where there? I mentioned safes, they don't crush too well. In a building where thousands of people are employed there are a lot of different objects yet nothing substantial was found in the aftermath, except all that paper and the 'terrorists' passport.
So where am I going here?
Well the shredder and the EU spam obsessive are going to love this one.
The US develop a new kind of weapon, unlike anything conventional but so top secret you'd never get to know about it. Here's how it works. A "unit" as in half of the weapon, is placed in the basement of the towers. On board the plane, which is most likely a last minute military switch over, is the other part of the weapon. (It gets worse I know The unit in the cellar transmits some kind of laser beam/forcefield energy upwards which registers with the unit delivered by the plane, thus creating some kind of column of highly charged energy around and up the building.
You see where I'm going in my crazy theory yet?
Two units transmitting whatever, microwaves/sonic waves who knows what it may be called or what it is, and create an energy force that is designed to disintegrate, or break apart matter of a certain density, like steel, concrete, human bones etc. But not paper as that's much less dense.
To start it all off, thermite is set off to demolish only a few of floors below the crash level to create the effect of the beginning of a collapse. At the same time the unit is turned on and the falling building is disintegrated into dust as it falls. Totally crazy eh? But so was the concept of a nuclear bomb in the 40's to most everyday folks. As was electricity even more so in its early days, and still is to most people today - they use it but don't really understand WTF it is.
It's not that much more crazy than the black box that can emit microwaves outwards to a set distance that penetrates human skin to 1/64th of an inch. It stimulates every pain nerve in your skin and you can do nothing but run as it feels like you're literally on fire. Conspiracy? No its been featured on the TV many times and there's a lot of controversy over what it could be used for. Crowd control is the best idea put forward, complete control over where human beings stand on the planet is the worst. Its military potential is frightening as you can drive it towards any crowd and they have no option whatsoever but to run the other way.
9/11 Why did they do it?
Apart from lucky Larry getting billions on his insurance policy, after he updated it to include `terrorists` flying jumbos into his buildings a few months previous, even claimed twice because there was two crashes. Also there was a hell of a lot of gold stored in the basement, tons of the stuff, collected a few decades ago when the US government pretty much made everyone give it to them. Oh, and building 7 which Larry is on tape saying they are going to "pull" it, the well used phrase in American demolition, contained thousands of CIA and FBI investigation records. Dodgey stuff they wanted rid of?
The best reason was to show off to the world governments that they had such a weapon, meaning they can stomp round the middle east unhindered from retaliation out of fear of this new weapon. If they go into Iran, and there's a lot of signs that they are preparing to, then I'll believe the secret weapon theory even more.
Ok, its all far fetched to you and I, and totally beyond comprehension to Shredder and Co, but I'm not so sure if those in high positions in other governments think the same. They do take conspiracy theories like this more seriously because they have to keep every option open when trying to keep up with what other governments might be developing. We do live in a world where technology is racing ahead so fast that its hard to keep up with what it can produce. While I still scratch my head trying to work out how to program my DVD player to record the next edition of Dr. Who.
Because there are so many anomalies in the 9/11 story, so many things that don't add up or push the boundaries of chance so far to the edge that common sense is left struggling to grasp it, it is feasible and possible, given the pace of new technologies, that we may only be one secret weapon away from a complete explaination.
Anyone heard of the ''illuminati'' very interesting conspiracy theory surrounding them, and i don't think it is as far fetched as it sounds to be honest. It makes alot of sense actually. So does the Titanic one, but maybe i watch too many conspiracy theory programs =/
Afghanistan and Iraq are literally floating on black gold, the USA may of just used 9/11 as an excuse to invade those countries to pillage their Oil. it makes sense really. And apparently war makes money...i heard that on the news once, can't remember what the reporter said wasn't really listening.
Ali, the simplicity of the theory is the thing to test. The simplicity is that if such weapon exists then it would explain everything in one go.
That is what you test.
1. Has it happened before? Yes.
The power of the nuclear bomb was something the mindset of the time could not comprehend. Thousands of people around the world went into shock after Hiroshima. The man who split our history by splitting our smallest parts was blown away by what he did.....
What the human consciousness had to add to their mindset in an instant back then is not something you'll find written about in school history books.
Today, technology is running away with itself, new shit is coming about all the time. It is well known that most of the cool technology we end with in our lives is the commercial hand me downs of the military industrial complex.
If you agree that technology is continually advancing at a fast rate, then there has to be a constant stream of new weapons based on the latest break throughs, IF, the military industrial complex are at the forefront of the technology. And they are.
A weapon that can create a beam within a concentrated area in space and disintegrate matter in that space has been around a while, lasar.
A Lasar 98 upgrade to Lasar XP happened.
Is there a Lasar Vista?
Saying that God chose to destroy the buildings would also explain everything in one go, how much simpler than that can you get. Doesn't mean it's true. The only thing that matters is evidence. And your proposal has none.
NO!
The atom bomb was a direct result of the discovery of atomic physics and it was not something that was outside of popular scientific knowledge. Like all great discoveries it was happening simultaneously across the world. There is no similar scientific discovery that could explain the creation of your super weapon.
True, but what we shall see is advancements in technologies that match our current level of scientific knowledge. Improvements in computers, armour, tracking, surveillance, etc.
If this weapon exists and was first demonstrated by the destruction of the Twin Towers why hasn't it been used again.
The atom bomb was tested in secret in the desert and then deployed against an enemy, the Japanese, as a symbol of American military and scientific superiority. Why hasn't the same occurred with this weapon? A public demonstration?
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Im just going to go with the common accepted theory that a huge plane smashed into the building, of which skyscrapers are not built to cope with. Usually if a plane filled with all kinds of explosive chemicals (the fuel, etc) hits a building like that and blows up the building will fall. it's like the titanic where it bent in the middle before it sank, the plane hit the centre-ish of the building and it toppled.
We're not talking religion. We're talking about weapons that have been developed but not made public. The Stealth fighter was one a while back.
The best way to walk all over the middle east is not by fighting Al Kiddya, that's for the sheeple to believe in - its much safer to have a big ***** off weapon in your holster.
That is right. They demonstrated it on the day then headed east on Thursday.
Maybe it has. If your media gets a no no on it, you don't get to know.
If it remains a one off mystery it still remains a powerful threat - if it exists.
So? In what way is that evidence of a super weapon?
Where is the evidence for a big ***** off weapon?
We live in a time of multiple media with hundreds of sources of information on each. If a new super weapon exists and is in use it would have been witnessed, reported on and made public. Something such as this, in today's world, could not remain secret.
Do you even understand how media works?
This sounds almost religious and your arguments follow a similar line to Creationist logic.
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