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marhak Posted: 24.04.2008, 19:44

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I would assume that the flag was removed in order to avoid a breach of the peace, and to remove an incitement to racial hatred. Should anyone get their collar felt for this, I suggest that this be his/her defence.



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pfishwick Posted: 24.04.2008, 22:24

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Unsure why the removal of a £20 (that much? - decent ones, and for that matter CoSPiran flags as well, can be bought for much less) flag should be newsworthy when expensive weather equipment is stolen or damaged all too frequently at meteorological stations up and down Britain and Ireland, but the media remain silent. Some of this includes folk literally opening fire on the instruments. icon_eek

This incurs costly replacement charges and a loss of observations until new sensors are installed.

Maybe the BBC should report what's important and not what isn't (e.g. petty theft of a flag).

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Kéighlán Posted: 24.04.2008, 22:46

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Where is it banned and why mike?
i don't really know, but iv'e heard various storys on the bbc and from people who have been told to remove their flags, and it has been banned in some places (Bradford, Leicester).
As to why someone threw eggs at my flag, you tell me. I won't mention i live in an area where there are many foreign people

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marhak Posted: 25.04.2008, 09:00

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It shouldn't be banned on English soil (and shouldn't be flown on Cornish soil). So, if you're in England, fly it. Why shouldn't you? It's your flag. Resist all attempts to make you take it down and insist they take you to court - then tell the national Press. The thought police will back off like hell.

And someone has more money than sense. Eggs are bloody expensive these days.







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KarlT Posted: 25.04.2008, 14:42



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Just out of interest, Marhak, what would be your feelings about a Cornishman in England who flew a Cornish flag on St Piran's day? Given that I (as an Englishman in England) would have no objection, I'm a little mystified at the vehemence of your feelings towards people flying the English flag in Cornwall.



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Eddie-C Posted: 25.04.2008, 17:49

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KarlT whek,
Have you ever seen one of those 'alternate history' films, where Hitler's 3rd Reich successfully invaded Britain in the 1940s? You see Waffen SS and Wehrmacht goosestepping up Whitehall (or Sauchiehall Street), and Big Ben draped with black-white-and-red swastika banners, while the bands play the iconic Deutschland Über Alles and the Horst Wessel Lied. Doesn't that put a wee shiver of revulsion up your backbone?

Lots of the conquered Brits in such films (and even in the audience!) feel a strong antipathy towards the invaders, their language, flags, music and so on, don't they? And one might imagine such antipathy enduring, and even strengthening into mythical status, over ensuing generations in this fictional world.

Well, for a fictional Britain versus Nazi Germany try substituting an historical (Celtic) Britain vs. Anglo-Saxon Germany. Add in century after century of exploitation, suppression and conquest (be they perceived or real). That might give you some idea why St. George's flag gets a less-than-enthusiastic reception in the Celtic parts of the British Isles, even after so many centuries.

It might also give you an insight as to why Scotland, Wales, Man, Ireland and Cornwall have kept up the struggle over the centuries towards getting an increased measure of constitutional self determination, or even independence. And all of them bar Cornwall --I may need correcting here-- have succeeded to varying degrees.

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Bolitho Posted: 25.04.2008, 18:31

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What it didn't say in the thread or the paper is that the cross of St. George was taken down and replaced by a St. Pirans flag! The Bude town council then removed the Cornish flag within the hour...
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Egloshal Posted: 25.04.2008, 18:38

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Are Bude town council anti-Cornish?

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Eddie-C Posted: 25.04.2008, 18:43

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Anti-Cornish? Perhaps merely anti-anti-Sasunnach!

Why not offer the local-government pissants a slot on your podcast to explain themselves?

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Bolitho Posted: 25.04.2008, 18:51

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http://batcc.co.nr/

That's Bude Town Council for you...
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goky Posted: 25.04.2008, 19:46

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Eddie, do you live in Cornwall??

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Kéighlán Posted: 25.04.2008, 20:52

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Here you have it.
An official apology from an Englishman.
I am sorry my ancestors invaded you and treated you badly and your country is in the state it is today. I am sorry for the bitterness people give you and...im gonna be here all day. I apologize on behalf of England. There you go.

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Bolitho Posted: 25.04.2008, 21:40

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Thanks. Can we have our Country back now?



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TGG Posted: 25.04.2008, 22:11

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KarlT - Posted: 25.04.2008, 14:42Just out of interest, Marhak, what would be your feelings about a Cornishman in England who flew a Cornish flag on St Piran's day? Given that I (as an Englishman in England) would have no objection, I'm a little mystified at the vehemence of your feelings towards people flying the English flag in Cornwall.

KarlT, this comment here and others, from the same thread might also provide some answers to your questions. icon_smile

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Kéighlán Posted: 25.04.2008, 22:15

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Can you have your country back?
you already have it, just not officially. If its in your heart and mind, then its yours already.

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