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What do the Cornish Gorseth ACTUALLY do?

Egloshal Posted: 25.04.2008, 12:55

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This is a simple question provoked by my recent experience.

I want to know what the Gorseth does in a practical, campaigning, and cultural level.

Please quote examples with an explanation of the amount of success or profile achieved.

This is not me having a vendetta... it is me trying to understand the organisation.

Radyo an Gernewegva
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IrishJack Posted: 25.04.2008, 13:46

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Good question.

I would simply ask what does the Gorsedh do that worthwhile for cornwall?

Tiocfaidh ar La,
But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions and backbiting

The Bureaucracy needs to expand to meet the needs of the Bureaucracy

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moonshine Posted: 25.04.2008, 13:53

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I first saw a Cornish Bard when I was five, on Trumpton. Can't recall what they did but I do remember the blue robes.

NOTE: No Cornish Bard has ever appeared in Camberwick Green, saying that, Windy Miller dresses similar.
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CJenkin Posted: 25.04.2008, 14:41



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This is what the Gorsedh claim to do
http://www.gors...sh/about.htm
In a practical, campaigning, and cultural level they would appear to do very little, apart from publishing, competitions and communicating with other culturally active organisations. Perhaps that may change now they have appointed their first employee?

From their point of view I guess it's a bit like asking what the Order of the British Empire actually does ...

By the way I'm not a particularly huge fan of the gorsedh.



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moonshine Posted: 25.04.2008, 14:57

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I came across a small bard once. Had a pull string at the back - it said "Kernow Bys Vykken" in a high pitch crackly voice when you pulled the string out.
I swapped it for John Angarrack Action Man that actually moved.

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TheArchDruid Posted: 25.04.2008, 15:38



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Very clever moonshine.

The Gorseth's reputation shines by the reflected light of the actions of its members. If the bards are seen to promote Cornwall noticeably and prominently, in the name of the Gorseth, then the Gorseth will be seen to be worthwhile.
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Mike Posted: 25.04.2008, 15:54

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The Gorsedh promotes high level Cornish culture. language, poetry, writing, as said in their web site. Not to everybodies cup of tea but they don't interfere with anyone. Better to have the Gorsedh than not, IMO. Many of the Bards past and present have done a massive amount of work for Cornwall.
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Egloshal Posted: 25.04.2008, 15:54

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So the Gorseth itself does nothing? A person who is a language bard will do things for say Agan Tavas or Kesva an Taves, and the Gorseth takes the glory? It is still to be answered what successful and high profile campaign the Gorseth has led, rather than just followed the crowd or other Cornish organisations on.

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TheElvenLord Posted: 25.04.2008, 16:08

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I have no experience with the Gorsedh - and i have never heard them do anything.

I think though that is important - it celebrates our history, its a historical figure, and its good publicity.

TEL

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TheArchDruid Posted: 25.04.2008, 16:13



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You have good ideas, send them to the Gorseth. They won't be discussed in public on C24.
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Mike Posted: 25.04.2008, 16:14

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QuoteIt is still to be answered what successful and high profile campaign the Gorseth has led, rather than just followed the crowd or other Cornish organisations on.


I can't think of a successful, high-profile campaign, from a Cornish cultural stance being achieved by any organisation. I can think of smaller important ones and indeed the Gorsedh certainly played a part:

http://www.corn...icleid=43031

The organisation gives credibility to such events.





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Egloshal Posted: 25.04.2008, 16:16

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I agree about celebrating our history and culture... but I think it should be actually campaigning more than it does.

I'm not sure whether it is good publicity. From the people I speak to, they see it as more of a weird curiosity. To quote one person, they are the "wizards".

Some people can't even tell the difference between Vanessa Beeman and Ed Prynn!



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Nosdan Posted: 25.04.2008, 16:23

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Whilst I agree that on the face of it the Gorseth seems to do little as an organisation, I would rather have it than not. ON a personal level I think they are not in touch with modern life. I'm the first to hold true to traditions, but modernising and moving with the times doesn't have to jeopardise that.

Isn't it weird that the ArchDruid him/her self appeared like magic when the Gorseth came up in conversation? Do you think they have a secret police division? icon_lol

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(as maazed as a curlew)
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P_Trembath Posted: 25.04.2008, 16:28

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I might be wrong, but to me, the Gorseth is not a campaigning organization. It is an organization that rewards those who have achieved something in respect to the art, literature, language, etc of Cornwall, by the awarding of Bardships.

To become a member, you have to have achieved something, therefore, it is something to aspire to.

The Saxons have their Lords, we have our Bards.
(Maybe not the best analogy, but you know what I mean)



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moonshine Posted: 25.04.2008, 16:39

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QuoteYou have good ideas, send them to the Gorseth. They won't be discussed in public on C24.


I didn't see Eggshell ask you on C24 for a link to his Cornish radio site, so assume he approached you privately.

I would consider an online Cornish radio service something beyond consideration if the Gorseth are to be seen to promote the language.

As you're suggested system of private communication was to no avail to Eggshell, perhaps you could offer an explanation to all C24 members who are now confused as to why that type of link is deemed unsuitable. SWF came to mind, but I've not come across many typos while listening to radios.

Wouldn't want people thinking there's a conspiracy going on, would we?

Answers in English language please so there's no arguing over spelling.

Thanks Bard Pard.
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