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What do the Cornish Gorseth ACTUALLY do?

GrahamHart Posted: 24.08.2008, 03:08

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QuoteHaving a Gorseth is something that regions of England do not have. Wales does, as does Britanny. When 'all the chips are down', it's another string to Cornwall's bow.




Yeah, but a bloody thin one !



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GrahamHart Posted: 28.08.2008, 17:14

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I did'nt know Former Grand Bard Rod Lyon was a Cornish Pirates fan. In fact, I did'nt know he liked sport at all !

When I approached him at the opening ceremony of the Inter Celtic Watersports a couple of years back to inform him of the Games campaign, he did'nt want to know and just walked away from me as I was talking to him.






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marhak Posted: 28.08.2008, 18:47

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That sounds most unlike Rod. I've always found him to be extremely likeable and dedicated. He isn't in the best of health so I'd like to think that this might have had something to do with it.
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GrahamHart Posted: 29.08.2008, 01:17

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I did'nt know that. I hope that was the case as well. Thanks for that Craig.

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Verity Posted: 05.09.2008, 23:32

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Has anyone read the new book just out on the Gorsedd by Rod Lyon?

What does anyone think? Does it help answer the question that started this thread?
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myghall Posted: 07.09.2008, 12:48



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Here is a list of the new bards -
http://www.gors...bard2008.htm

2008: Logh/Looe
Janet Axten - St. Ives
For services to Cornish historical research.

Deryck Botterill - Lostwithiel
By examination in the Cornish language and continuing work for Cornwall.

Mrs. Mina Dresser - Truro
For service to the Cornish Language.

Mrs. Sue Easy - Pensilva
By examination in the Cornish language and continuing work for Cornwall.

Mrs. Elizabeth Harman - Penzance
For services to Cornish dialect and literature.

Margaret Hinch - Penryn
By examination in the Cornish language and continuing work for Cornwall.

Mrs. Sue Hooper - Saltash
For dedicated service to the community in Saltash.

Tim Hosken - St. Just in Penwith
For services to music in Cornwall.

Bishop Bill Ind - Melksham, Wiltshire
For services to the whole Cornish Community.

Mrs. Betty Johns - Victoria, Australia
By examination in the Cornish language and continuing work for Cornwall.

Mrs. Elizabeth Anne (Libby) Luke - Victoria, Australia
For services to Cornwall in Australia.

Mrs. Sally Mollard - St. Neot
By examination in the Cornish language and continuing work for Cornwall.

Mrs. Flora 'Tommi' O'Hagan - Wisconsin , USA
For services to the Cornish overseas.

James Anthony (Tony) Piper - Camborne
For services to Cornwall and Cornish Culture.

Rosemary Reay - Liskeard
By examination in the Cornish language and continuing work for Cornwall.

Mrs. Della Rowe - Falmouth
For long service to Cornwall.

Roger Tackley - Falmouth
By examination in the Cornish language and continuing work for Cornwall.

Alastair Taylor - Illogan
For services to Cornish music.
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Verity Posted: 08.09.2008, 00:45

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Could anyone enlighten me about what Bishop Bill has done to further our culture?

His committee on Cornish in Worship hasn't even met for three years!
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Mike Posted: 08.09.2008, 00:51

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I'm not too sure about this but didn't he apologise to the Cornish Nation?

(Prayer Book business)
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Verity Posted: 08.09.2008, 01:01

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Mmmmm.... it was rather grudging, and it took 800 emails and letters to prise that out of him, so I am told.

Is the bar for being made a bard now set that low?
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Mike Posted: 08.09.2008, 01:07

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It was a long time ago Verity, 1549 I believe, so you are too young to remember.

I think the bard bar for me or thee is too high still icon_lol
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Verity Posted: 08.09.2008, 01:13

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And for Angarrack? And Nigel Hicks? And a host of other anti-English establishment Cornish Patriots? Mike, if that is the case, then you are on the right track (unlike the Gorsedd?).

Mike, keep it up. We are in good company!
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Mike Posted: 08.09.2008, 01:22

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Absolutely Verity icon_wink
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IrishJack Posted: 10.09.2008, 14:43

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MikeHaving a Gorseth is something that regions of England do not have. Wales does, as does Britanny. When 'all the chips are down', it's another string to Cornwall's bow.


So? And? another bow? my orse.

Funny how the most independet of the celtic nations, RoI and Scotland don't have them isn't it?

Perhaps behaving like pompous twats and having an effective movement for recognition are mutually exclusive.

The untold work hours waste on this dross, composing poor poetry, songs, etc, when this effort could have been spent on useful cornish issues.

What does the gorsedh do? So far it has not been demonstrated to do anything useful.

This organisation undermines the rest of the cornish movement and should of been disbanded in the 1980s whenit became completely irrelevant.

PS if people deserve recognitiom they will be recognised popularly by the cornish people, not by a group of pseudo intellectual pseudo bourgeois, who ahve little if any affinity with the people whose ethnicity they claim to represent. The last thing we need is a pseudo nobility that hand out pseudo gongs to like minded pseudo intellectuals, unfortunately this is what we have for reason other than to satisfy the feelings of some self importnat 1920s language revivalists.
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TGG Posted: 10.09.2008, 15:33

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IJ, I must assume that the Gorseth Kernow has upset you somehow, somewhere along the line, because you always seem to be venting your spleen - as you are, of course, entitled to do. I do wonder, however, if your opinion is correct, then how, as an organisation, has it survived for 80 years and looks set to continue for some time to come? Because you see no good in it, does not mean that there is not. Why should it bother you anyway that some poor deluded souls should wish to recognise others for their contribution to Cornish life?

What 'honours system' isn't open to criticism? It is ever so easy to criticise, is it not? You are, nevertheless, perfectly free - if you wish to be positive, that is? - to set up whatever you consider might constitute a better alternative, and waste your own time on your own dross and make your own non-pseudo system of awards.

If it can, alternatively, be left to the 'Cornish people', then you will, I am sure, have plenty of examples to prove that what you mean is something that already happens, in the absence of a guiding hand from those poor deluded Cornish-minded souls and their, according to you, pseudo objectives. icon_smile

TGG For The (Real)Reason Why!

STOP THE CORNISH GENOCIDE!- The existence of divergent views occur because the lies and deception have a more profoundly negative, and contrived, consequence for the Cornish people than for anyone else within the UK.
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OllAnGwella Posted: 10.09.2008, 15:44



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I would not be so quick with your criticisms any of you. Members of the many Cornish and Celtic Organisations are indeed supporting the Cornish Fighting Fund. members of these organisations do not stand in isolation either. One person can be a member of many of them. The most divisive part of the Cornish 'movement' appears to be the language lobby who through their constant bickering put many people off.
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