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FreakoMbiko Posted: 29.05.2008, 13:54

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FreakoMbiko - Posted: 29.05.2008, 04:58
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I think what you see as "evil" I see as "disinterest".

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Mat, Even 'disinterest' in certain things can be categorised as 'evil'. With your African connection, you must be better understanding of that than most. However, you offer something in your reply above for me to get my teeth into and I shall give a proper response later this evening. icon_eek

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OK icon_smile I shall look forward to it icon_smile

BTW, My African connection is the same as yours icon_smile We are all from Africa ultimately.

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TGG Posted: 29.05.2008, 15:38

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FreakoMbiko - Posted: 29.05.2008, 13:54...BTW, My African connection is the same as yours icon_smile We are all from Africa ultimately.
Of the alleged connection, I am well aware. icon_eek I disagree, however, with Africa as a common point of origin... for reasons touched upon, when our African friend first appeared. I am not qualified to say where, or when, or what, but only to say that Africa is, by comparison a very modern place. icon_rolleyes I seem to remember Marhak also challenging the 'origins' bit but for different reasons. icon_smile

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FreakoMbiko Posted: 30.05.2008, 06:07

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FreakoMbiko - Posted: 29.05.2008, 13:54...BTW, My African connection is the same as yours icon_smile We are all from Africa ultimately.
Of the alleged connection, I am well aware. icon_eek I disagree, however, with Africa as a common point of origin... for reasons touched upon, when our African friend first appeared. I am not qualified to say where, or when, or what, but only to say that Africa is, by comparison a very modern place. icon_rolleyes I seem to remember Marhak also challenging the 'origins' bit but for different reasons. icon_smile

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There is no question we all came from Africa!

Jah!

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Nosdan Posted: 30.05.2008, 11:13

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FreakoThere is no question we all came from Africa!


This seems rather selective... You have just selected a time frame/subspecies route and picked a location...

You could pick nearly anywhere on the globe, or even under the sea as the place where we are all ultimately from... regardless of this, it doesn't make you who you are... Only your environment does.

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FreakoMbiko Posted: 30.05.2008, 11:33

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FreakoThere is no question we all came from Africa!


This seems rather selective... You have just selected a time frame/subspecies route and picked a location...

You could pick nearly anywhere on the globe, or even under the sea as the place where we are all ultimately from... regardless of this, it doesn't make you who you are... Only your environment does.



Well, no, thats not true. Humanity came from Africa, not, say, Wales.

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Nosdan Posted: 30.05.2008, 11:57

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True our lineage goes through Africa, but our species, Homo sapiens is most likely a world wide evolutionary event than a localised 'African' process.





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TGG Posted: 30.05.2008, 12:37

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When did Africa first became known as Africa? icon_smile

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moonshine Posted: 30.05.2008, 12:40

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When did Africa first became known as Africa?

1337?
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moonshine Posted: 30.05.2008, 12:43

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During the 1855-58 Intercontinental foreshore dispute?
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TGG Posted: 30.05.2008, 13:28

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FreakoMbiko - Posted: 29.05.2008, 04:58 There are, of course, some points I'd like to pick you up on

TGG>>>>>My reason for exposing the constitutional lies

Who is lying here? Is it Prince Charles? The Queen? Political Parties? Polititions themselves, the Police? Whoever is lying we must assume its a lye that has in some sense been "passed down", but who would do this and why?

The Motive is very important, and I dont see much motive for whoever is lying to lye and compromise their integrity and much else. We aint Iraq.

Mat, I apologise for not having kept to my stated time. It is difficult to say what has to be said, especially when it is already on the TGG site. I will keep it to the simple Q & A statements:
  • Q - Who is lying here?
  • A – the Monarchs, and the Dukes of Cornwall, as you suggest over time.

  • Q – Why would they do this?
  • A – The consolidation of, and bureaucratic convenience of an English Hegemony at the beginning of the 17th century, following the Tudor centralisation of English power in the 16th. This combined with the Union of Crowns to impose State-controlled mapping and maps of the combined kingdoms of England & Scotland (Speed’s maps of 1610) showing the administrative areas without distinction.
The distinct representation of Cornwall prior to this time was lost to public perception but not, of course, to the Cornish themselves. Norden’s survey of Cornwall, which includes “The General Historie of the Duchie of Cornwall” (said to date from 1650 but presumed to have taken place in 1584), was not published, apparently, until 1728 and his narrative to the English king at the time of writing is very telling (and must have shone like a warning beacon to the king), coinciding as it does with the time of English consolidation. The mid-16th century is clearly the start of a process of genocide of the Cornish:
Norden”The parliaments of former times haue always respected the preseruation of the Royalties and Rightes of the Duchie of Cornwall. […] Before Cornwall was made a Dukedome, and vnited vnto the Principallitye of Wales, which was in the time of kinge Edw. the 3 the Dukes. [...] Since the vnion. […] for since this Duchy was annexed vnto the Principalitie, ”


FreakoMbiko - Posted: 29.05.2008, 04:58 TGG >>>>but a very current, and everyday, evil.
If there is evil there are evil doeers. SO my point again, who is doing this evil currently and today?

Without labouring the point, it is TEAM-EIS meaning anyone that promotes the evil and erroneous concept in any way that Cornwall is an’ English county’ and ‘in England’. This starts, repeatedly, with the Monarch and Duke (from the moment that they take possession) and is perpetuated by the State and its agencies, but the especially in our schools and educational establishments. Therefore, the matter is always a charge against current incumbents and their agencies. The Truth is only a matter of stating it. Who would disagree with that? It was French historian, Marc Ferro, in his "The Use and Abuse of History - or how the past is taught" (1984), who tells us:
Marc Ferro“Our image of other peoples, or of ourselves for that matter, reflects the history we are taught as children. This history marks us for life. Its representation, which is for each one of us a discovery of the world, of the past of societies, embraces all our passing or permanent opinions, so that the traces of our first questioning, our first emotions, remain indelible.
It is these traces which we must know or rediscover, both our own and those of other peoples, in Trinidad as in Moscow or Yokohama. It is a journey both through time and space. It has the quality of reflecting moving images from the past, for it is not simply that this past is different for everyone, but that everybody's memory changes with time, and that these images alter as knowledge and ideologies develop and as the function of history changes within society.
It is high time to confront these differing presentations of the past, for with the widening of the world's horizons, with its economic unification but continuing political disunity, our differing views of the past have, more than ever, become one of the factors in conflict between states, nations, cultures and ethnic groups. To control the past is to master the present, to legitimize dominion and justify legal claims. It is the dominant powers - states, churches, political parties, private interests - which own or finance the media or means of reproduction, whether it be school-books or strip cartoon, films or television programmes
Increasingly, they are abandoning us all to a uniform past. Revolt comes from those to whom history is 'forbidden'.
And then, tomorrow, which nation, which human group will still be able to control its own history? ……..”


FreakoMbiko - Posted: 29.05.2008, 04:58 I feel we agree on the History, the Legals and the current state of affairs. Where we disagree is on the mechanisms that continue this current state of affairs.

Some think its a conspiracy.
You think its lies and imperialism.
Some don't care.
I think that nobody in England really cares about Cornwall and they certainly doesnt want to start stirring up hornest nests of lawyers and spending national effort on something that, in the wider context of the planet, is trivial.

I think what you see as "evil" I see as "disinterest".



I see it as genocide, which is ‘evil’ as is also a failure to be interested. Let the ‘untouchables’ tell us that Cornish genocide is of no interest to them! Our elected representatives have clearly shown this!

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Kéighlán Posted: 30.05.2008, 18:05

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No thats wrong. We are not all from Africa at all. I was born in England, as were my parents, and my gran and grandad, my great grandad was born on a native american commune, my great gran was born in what is now Northern Ireland. Our ancestors from god knows how long ago may of been Africans, but i am not.

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TGG Posted: 30.05.2008, 18:58

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Kéighlán, What is meant by all this is that we are all, apparently, from the same genetic source. Some argue for Adam! icon_eek 'Africa' just happens to be a retrospective application of modern association to a place that at the particular time had no name. A totally meaningless relationship by any definition. icon_smile

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Kéighlán Posted: 30.05.2008, 20:49

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Oh i see. Can i ask Mr Freak Mbk...whatever his name is, if he is Cornish, why has he got a picture of an African and why is he saying ''please visit my wonderful country of Africa'' Unless he is a black Cornishman. Im confuzzled.

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FreakoMbiko Posted: 30.05.2008, 22:59

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NosdanTrue our lineage goes through Africa, but our species, Homo sapiens is most likely a world wide evolutionary event than a localised 'African' process.



Again, not true icon_smile Its really not. Check out your haplotypes! icon_smile

Jah Man Crazy!


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Hunlef Posted: 31.05.2008, 00:46

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NosdanTrue our lineage goes through Africa, but our species, Homo sapiens is most likely a world wide evolutionary event than a localised 'African' process.



Again, not true icon_smile Its really not. Check out your haplotypes! icon_smile

Jah Man Crazy!


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Take no notice of this mixed up freak. He has yet to wake up from his ganja-induced torpour. Jah man my arse.
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