Why do people need to justify this email I thought the answer DC gave could bring us on to a common ground as one and all, reading the post reply's, DC's email would appear not welcome, why? He is for all and that is the problem.
That's the problem Mike. You cannot be all things to all people. It's an impossible position to take.
Surely a Nationalist Party should first and foremost be there to promote the views of Nationalists ? ? ?
Again Angofbew I concur with everything you say and I have withdrawn my earlier responses on Dick's position.
Who the hell am I to call for such actions anyway ?
I sincerely hope that these important issues are rectified within the Party, resulting in 100% support from Cornish Nationalists, but that can't happen as things stand.
Though when it's all said and done, and has been mentioned on here recently: We will go nowhere until we face up to the fact of who's our real enemy. THE DUCHY !
No-where in Dicks Email does it say anything about MK not being a Nationalist party - of course we are a nationalist party and promote and recognise the nation of Cornwall.
There is nothing that Dick has said that is incompatible with that view. In that respect we do ultimately promote the views of Nationalists.
The members make up the party and the party policies reflect a positive and progressive Cornish Nationalism which is derived from Cornwall's unique political, cultural, ethnic and constitutional heritage.
Of course there are people who will feel that MK doesn't represent them adequately because they don't agree with MK's policies or progressive stance. (Tories and racists come to mind).
But we are seeking to change Cornwall's political culture so that we can broadly represent the majority of the people who live on this peninsula west of the Tamar.
Billy Bragg's quote re SNP would equally apply to the stance that MK is pursuing.
MK is an unashamedly nationalsit party in the same ilk as the SNP ruling in Scotland and plaid Cymru ruling in Wales. We seek greater co-operation and have many friends amongst these nationalist parties and the nationalist and regionalist parties of Europe.
Personally as a republican I have no great enthusiasm for the Duchy and would be happy to see it disappear, its assets returned to the people that they were stolen from but in terms of practical politics in Cornwall the Duchy has very little influence whatsoever.
Parliament and the Lib. Dems are more cornwall's enemies than anyone else these days.
Thanks for that CJ, good reply, and it does suprise me that people put so much effort into putting down MK, our only nationalist party, when they could just be getting on with their own thing and promoting Cornwall in the way they see fit.
The more votes MK get the more recognition the Cornish nation will get.
edited by: Fulub-le-Breton, May 07, 2008 - 02:13 PM
CJ.
In the light of the interesting discussion HERE and drawing on other resources and references elsewhere
would you care to set out here, in some detail,
the historic and current basis for MK's claim to Cornish Nationhood?
Agreed and I'd like to see all Republicans of all colours working together for this end.
I think what some are suggesting in a -We are totally right! You are totally wrong!- sort of way is that on important occasions (the FCPNM, assembly campaign etc) the Duchy weighs in behind closed doors and makes its voice heard.
I must point out firstly that I am NOT anti Dick Cole, far from it. Dick along with everyone else says things that at time could be better worded. In the original e-mail, I only take exeption to a couple of things. Where he says 'this is non-negotiable'. Many will think this is a fair enough statement, I however do not. The reason being that MK is a Democratic Party, therefore everything IS negotiable. Therefore basically Dick is doing away with Democracy for his own personal beliefs, and that is not on. Next is his stance on the CNLA thing. It is my opinion that what he did at that time was a missed opertunity. He was right to condemn the actions of these people, but, he missed an opertunity to fully put the blame of such actions on the Government in Westminster. Soething along the lines of 'we do not agree with such actions, but you have made this mess by not recognising our unique status'. I think that would of sent the right message.
Conan is right in a lot of what he says, I think we all agree that as it is today, MK has to tread a fine line. The aim is to get elected and then to make the changes to make our Country a place to be able to work in and feel pride in. Only by being elected can we have any chance of making change. The only way is a Cornish Assembly. We have to remember that many Cornish see themselves as English, anyone with even one brain cell knows this to be untrue, but that is how it is and we have to work with that. Only when we get the power can we change the minds of these people, through a proper education and not one based on English lies.
Conan was wrong to say Tories and racists, what is a racist? I am not one thank god, but that does not mean I personally wouldnt send other Nationalities back to where they came from. There are many things wrong with an open imigration policy. Like now we have all the eastern europeans here working while millions of our people are on the dole, why? Surely the Policy must be to let them in ONLY when ALL out People are Emplyed. Why should the Working Man and Woman pay Taxes to keep these on the Dole when there ARE Jobs available? We Live in a Crazy Society where the so called Politically Correct are doing so much to ruin it. Its not being Racist to say this, nor that they should not get Handouts untill they Pay into the Fund. That is common sense, nothing else. Canada has an Immigration Policy where this happens, you can be Sponsered and you cannot claims Benefits for ten Years. We dont hear Canadians being called Racist, in actual fact they have one of the most Culturally Diverse Communities in the World. It seems everyone is so afraind to be branded Racist that their common sense goes out the window. Lets get things in perspective PLEASE.
Gravydave, what do you think you are doing putting emails up here sent to you in good faith? All you will do is undermine the confidence of politicians in dealing with the general public.
Did you warn him you were going to post it up here? I think not. It is downright shabby.
You seem intent on creating situations where good people's character can be assassinated. Dick is a cracking bloke and you are evidently not in the same league.
Perhaps we might know your identity so we can discuss yours publically here?
It is OK for other people to post email, letters and reply's from others but me to post DC's email that's a problem, sounds like you're trying hide something or take control?
I like his email that is why I posted it. I am 100% behind his statement, if you have a problem with what he has said then take it up with him.
There's only two types of government central or local. MK are local, the rest are central.
Where do you want you decisions making about Cornwall? Central or local?
GH, the enemy is not The Duchy, I think you may mean the Duchy or Cornwall's private estate - according to case law, from the Duchy of Cornwall legal team, the Duchy is the whole of Cornwall.
It should not be measured nor judged by quantity of influence. In fact to say the Duchy has no influence is to say that Cornwall has no influence in politics. If you mean the Ducal powers and rights of Mr Windsor has no influence in Cornwall's politics then I disagree. While his actions and influences remain behind closed doors why give him the positive benefit of the doubt as to his intervention in political spheres?
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