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email from Dick Cole of Mebyon Kernow

myghall Posted: 14.05.2008, 23:51



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CoadyKerrow asks why the Cornish people have an affinity with Cornish Independents that is reflected at voting time.

I believe that, simply by changing MKs name to "The Cornish Party" they would attract more potential voters.

I wish MEBYON KERNOW well, but I might actually VOTE for "THE CORNISH PARTY".



That's not a bad idea - but how about a compromise ?

MEBYON KERNOW - THE CORNISH PARTY or
MEBYON KERNOW - THE PARTY FOR CORNWALL

printed on the ballot papers - at least people wouldn't be able to miss it !! icon_biggrin
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Trevorpen Posted: 15.05.2008, 09:21



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MK is a left wing socialist party, with a left wing socialist agenda. It only represents a tiny sector of the political make up in the county.
No amount of name changing will change that.
That is why it has never been able to get enough votes to elect an MP/ MEP and only manages to get a handful of seats on local councils.
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CJenkin Posted: 15.05.2008, 10:28



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TrevorpenMK is a left wing socialist party, with a left wing socialist agenda. It only represents a tiny sector of the political make up in the county.
No amount of name changing will change that.
That is why it has never been able to get enough votes to elect an MP/ MEP and only manages to get a handful of seats on local councils.


Actually that's a really inaccurate representation of the party. The party can be described as left-of-centre because of its social concerns but it is very far from a traditional socialist party. Being left of centre is not difficult these days when almost all the main parties are either in the centre or right of centre. MK is no more left of centre than Cameron's Tories are right of centre. You are correct that Cornwall lacks a significant socialist tradition which is why MK aren't a left-wing socialist party.

There are indeed members that might describe their views as socialist but there are equally members that would describe there views as liberal. If you were looking for more accurate political labels then social democratic, liberal, radical (maybe green) and of course nationalist would be more appropriate.

Personally I find the left-right axis which exists in English politics less than satisfactory for the situation of Cornwall.
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gravydave Posted: 16.05.2008, 14:19

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I can't understand how naive you lot are. MK policy is not hidden but you lot have read the post from DC and then spent an amount of time making out just what he said or what the party stands for well form a theory or conjecture up your MK view but it will not change what the party are about. We who support MK stand by the email DC sent to me, are you with us or not?

GD

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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 16.05.2008, 17:31

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Just gor my copy of MK publication 'Cornish Nation'. Good stuff as usual with this issue touching on Cornish culture and identity.

The politics of identity is mentioned and perhaps an olive branch to other Cornish groups is being offered.

The Cornish Democrat
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moonshine Posted: 16.05.2008, 18:55

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QuoteJust gor my copy of MK publication 'Cornish Nation'. Good stuff as usual with this issue touching on Cornish culture and identity.


The front cover is a disgrace, it has nothing political nor dynamic in its message. A political party should not show scenes from an outdoor play on the front cover of anything they print.

"What shall we put on this months cover everyone?"

"How about a bunch of actors dressed as animals bowed down before a geezer dressed like a pagan priest."

"Yeah, good idea."

"What message does that give about our great Cornish political Party?"

"Err.. Err, Err... ... ... "

You're MK, not CW.
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 17.05.2008, 08:42

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I know what you mean and thats exactly what my partner thought when she saw it, "shite he has joined a sect".

Bar that the content is good.

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FreakoMbiko Posted: 22.05.2008, 11:13

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QuoteThank you for your email seeking further information about MK.

First and foremost, MK is a poitical party campaigning for all the people of Cornwall, whether Cornish or not. That is important to me as Party Leader and it is non-negotiable. I am proud that MK has many members that are not 'born and bred Cornish' and this includes councillors, members of the National Executive and ordinary party members.


Here here! And its for that reason I'm MK's only pretend African Elder member!

Quote Our vision for Cornwall is about winning a better deal for Cornwall and means economic prosperity, making sure that local people have access to affordable homes and decent jobs, building a society with social justice at its core while protecting our local environment.



This is the crux of the biscuit and why MK is the only choice for Kernow. Whatever happened in the past, that is history and culture. Only the future of Cornwall is important politically socially.

The Cornish Nationalists who don't see that do this great land a great disservice with their inability to let go and be progressive.

Its 2008. Keep up.






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P_Trembath Posted: 22.05.2008, 11:42

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FreakoMbiko Whatever happened in the past, that is history and culture. Only the future of Cornwall is important politically socially.


I feel that you dismiss the importance of history too lightly Freako. In my experience, it is those who wish the past to remain in the past, and not be examined in the present, that usually have something they wish to hide, to be forgotten. They have something in the past that, if known, would change the present for them in a way they would not wish.

In life, it is always important to look forward, but you must always keep a good eye on the past, learning from it, and using what you have learnt in the present, to, hopefully, have a smother future.

FreakoMbiko The Cornish Nationalists who don't see that do this great land a great disservice with their inability to let go and be progressive.


No, I would say that they are our "good eye", providing lessons that we ignore at our peril.


FreakoMbikoIts 2008. Keep up.


2008 is what it is because of 2007 & 2006 & 2005 & 200........................

It is never too late to right a wrong, or to change course when one sees that the one your on is not right.


FreakoMbiko.......and why MK is the only choice for Kernow.


Politically, at the moment, I can only agree with you there, and more people should support and vote for them.



Kernow Kensa!


Our day will come!


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moonshine Posted: 22.05.2008, 12:14

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QuoteThis is the crux of the biscuit and why MK is the only choice for Kernow. Whatever happened in the past, that is history and culture. Only the future of Cornwall is important politically socially.


The only biscuit involved in the crux will be found labeled as Duchy Originals.

It is stupid to suggest that we all move on and forget the past while Cornwall maintains a secret head of state and government who has no intention whatsoever to let go of a past that secures millions of pounds for one man while everyone else pretends we're just a shire county of England.

When Charles Windsor comes forward and declares his past as null and void ONLY THEN will your advise have any substance, meaning or credibility.
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FreakoMbiko Posted: 22.05.2008, 12:53

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Hi Pt

P_TrembathI feel that you dismiss the importance of history too lightly Freako.


It is crucial to stress that, as I have been saying for ages on here (as Mid, I cant login with that??), that I fully support the propagation of the understanding and enrichment of Cornish culture and history. Absolutely and without question.

But it is NOT important politically. Its just not. Thats not what politics is and thats not what political parties should be catering for.

QuoteIt is never too late to right a wrong, or to change course when one sees that the one your on is not right.


What has right got to do with this? This is reality not morality. Bad stuff happens in the past, the people of the future have to deal with it.

We would laugh if, say, the English Conservatives, tried to get some political motive by bemoaning the Norman Invasion and how unfair it was.... its the same kind of thing with winging on about ancient wrong doings against the Cornish.


QuotePolitically, at the moment, I can only agree with you there, and more people
should support and vote for them.


Great!!! I agree with you agreeing with me and fully encourage others to agree with you agreeing with me too!!! :P


Woop Woop!




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FreakoMbiko Posted: 22.05.2008, 12:55

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TrevorpenMK is a left wing socialist party, with a left wing socialist agenda. It only represents a tiny sector of the political make up in the county.
No amount of name changing will change that.
That is why it has never been able to get enough votes to elect an MP/ MEP and only manages to get a handful of seats on local councils.



Thats just not the case.

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FreakoMbiko Posted: 22.05.2008, 13:01

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[quote=moonshine]It is stupid to suggest that we all move on and forget the past while Cornwall maintains a secret head of state and government who has no intention whatsoever to let go of a past that secures millions of pounds for one man while everyone else pretends we're just a shire county of England.[quote]

There is no conspiracy here. You mistake the English Governments total disinterest in this issue for some perpetual conspiracy transcending decades and parties. Its just silly.

You are making a sensation claim moonshine, "Cornwall maintains a secret head of state and government", do you actually have any evidence to support this? Sensational claims need sensational evidence.


icon_smile

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moonshine Posted: 22.05.2008, 13:08

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Quoteo you actually have any evidence to support this?


Here and here.
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FreakoMbiko Posted: 22.05.2008, 13:17

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I was looking at that site yesterday, someone on COAST posted it icon_smile

There is nothing there about a modern conspiracy icon_smile

Regarding the book, Does the author know that Scat in English is a vocal improvisation with nonsense words and syllables giving the singer the ability to sing improvised melodies and rhythms, to create the equivalent of an instrumental solo using their voice? Thats Gross!





edited by: FreakoMbiko, May 22, 2008 - 04:22 PM

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