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Food for thought 2 - What's the optimum population for Cornwall?

CJenkin Posted: 14.05.2008, 10:17



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Cawsando Posted: 14.05.2008, 16:44

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That's a very important question you have raised there Conan.

Quantifying Cornwall's optimal population or its carrying capacity is difficult, and for me depends on how much of a centralist you are.

If you favour the expansion of the Capital, in order to accelerate brain drain there from other parts of the world, then perhaps it might be best to have a capital population of 250,000.
This would bring up the general pop to roughly 750,000.

I personally think that the only place to sustainably increase Kernow's populace would be in the former china clay area. This brown field site could see the construction of new communities, if throughly planned.

St Austell is also fairly central in Kernow, so these clay pits would make a fairly good expansion point.

Obviously, an associated new university, with science and technological parks would have to be created, so we could attract skilled workers, who would then be ingrained in Cornish culture.

This would be easiest if they came from Celtic stock, but would still be possible from elsewhere.

In terms of our ability to be self sufficient in food and energy, we currently have that capability.

We do need to increase our ability to create clean energy.

What would be really smart would be to build these communities in the terraformed clay pits, and then make 3/4 closed. They could be made available only to those brought up in the Duchy.

These houses would stay available to those from Cornwall, who are under 30.
Having the ability to converse in Cornish would be considered a plus point. The construction and greening of the area would be subsidised by taxes on second home owners on the coast.

Additionally, MK should prepose to implement taxes on those planning to retire in Cornwall, if they have not previously lived or added to the duchy's culture or economy.

Is this sort of tax preposed anywhere on the MK manifesto?

I can't seem to find a detailed MK manifesto online.

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piskey6 Posted: 14.05.2008, 19:36

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Cawsando, you are a speculative fool. I hope you continue to post your naive and rambling ideas on the web, that way - rather than being elected by the people or in some position of political determination - you are safely out of the way.

'Having the ability to converse in Cornish' to get a house?

ARE YOU COMPLETELY OFF YOUR HEAD CAWSANDO?

You sound completely out of touch. Please stay away from polical parties or any type of political activity.

Then again, if you really want to do Cornwall and the Cornish a favour, join the lib-dems, be their spokesman, be their anything, go on, just tell people what you think then say you're a lib dem.



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TeamKernow Posted: 14.05.2008, 21:38

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Given the levels of infrastructure gridlock currently generated by existing + seasonal population levels, Cornwall's optimum population level and comfortable carrying capacity is less than the overload it has allowed to become in recent years.

NO additional houses need to be built.

There are plenty already.

Around 50,000 EXISTING habitable residential housing units are NOT being used for residential purposes. They should be. Before there is ANY talk of new build.

Rising sea levels appear increasingly likely.

For that future exigency, should it be allowed to come to pass, every current patch of green should be protected to enable food production self-sufficiency.





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Cawsando Posted: 16.05.2008, 13:44

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Why not put up provactive ideas? This is a debating forum.

I'm entitled to raise an opinion and then either enjoy disagreement or agreement.

Name calling and getting personal just shows up your own naivety and immaturity.

Have you ever had a real debate with a real person? I highly doubt it Piskey.

Come and have a chat in real life if you feel so strongly about my speculations.

I do agree there is adequate housing currently, but without tax raising powers, the reach of the cornish state will always be limited.

We won't move towards independence without an improvement in the economy, that seems obvious.

Why not use the clay pits? If they are not any use for anything, why not improve our economic reach through the creation of a small metropolis?

I agree infrastructure should come first, and the 50,000 empty homes should first be filled.

But to put Kernow on the world map, a recognisable multicultural economic hub would be useful.

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FreakoMbiko Posted: 22.05.2008, 11:29

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CJenkinhttp://www.opti...g/index.html


The OPT are pretty good, I'm actually a moderator on one of their forums. But I disagree with them fundamentally with their Eurocentric view over the population issue.


As for the optimum population of Cornwall, my guess is that although it has a very low population density in terms of area, it is going to be fairly close to optimum in terms of infrastructure support during the summer. So I would disagree with Piskey.


But, no matter how bad it gets here, lets spare a thought for those people living in the mega-slums with a population density orders of magnitude higher than the Duchy. And no no no people.... I'm not JUST talking about Plymouth, but my wonderful country of Africa too.

Peace Out!






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