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CK Posted: 26.05.2008, 18:16



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In some respects I agree with you Allister (its a very poor analogy in terms of scale), but in other respects John Angarrack had a point, do you think it will be acceptable to fly the Swastika in Jereusalem in 400 years time? At the end of the day the English did kill an awful lot of the Cornish a number of years ago.

Personally I think the world would be far better if we learnt to live with the past after so long, at the end of the day what is resentment about something that happened 500 years ago going to achieve?
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GrahamHart Posted: 26.05.2008, 18:33

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Well said CK. As awful as it was, we can't change the past, but we can change the course of our future.

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Allister Posted: 26.05.2008, 18:37

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QuoteAfter it goes out tomorrow Allister, I think the contents of the interview will be far more interesting to debate , rather than a one-off comment.


No doubt.




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Allister Posted: 26.05.2008, 18:44

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QuoteIn some respects I agree with you Allister (its a very poor analogy in terms of scale), but in other respects John Angarrack had a point, do you think it will be acceptable to fly the Swastika in Jereusalem in 400 years time? At the end of the day the English did kill an awful lot of the Cornish a number of years ago.

Personally I think the world would be far better if we learnt to live with the past after so long, at the end of the day what is resentment about something that happened 500 years ago going to achieve?



True, however the Nazi Swastika contains an extremely dark philosophy and represents one singular ideology. The CoSG does not.






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CK Posted: 26.05.2008, 19:02



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QuoteTrue, however the Nazi Swastika contains an extremely dark philosophy and represents one singular ideology. The CoSG does not.


I'm not sure I agree with that statement, Nazism was certainly about more than wiping out the Jews, which is what most people now see it as, bear in mind during the war we didn't even know the holocauset was happening.

Can you see why the Cross of St George can have similar connotations to some people as the swastika does to the jews?

I'm not supproting anyone here by the way, just trying to see it from both sides of the fence..
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Allister Posted: 26.05.2008, 19:15

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QuoteNazism was certainly about more than wiping out the Jews


Of course, although it was one of Hitler's key concepts.

QuoteCan you see why the Cross of St George can have similar connotations to some people as the swastika does to the jews?


No. I don't think the two are in any way comparable. The only reason it is compared is to stir up anger and hatred.

I don't think the CoSG should be flown from any public institution in Cornwall but if a comparison must be made then let's find something a tad more accurate.




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Hunlef Posted: 26.05.2008, 19:45

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QuoteNazism was certainly about more than wiping out the Jews


Of course, although it was one of Hitler's key concepts.

QuoteCan you see why the Cross of St George can have similar connotations to some people as the swastika does to the jews?


No. I don't think the two are in any way comparable. The only reason it is compared is to stir up anger and hatred.

I don't think the CoSG should be flown from any public institution in Cornwall but if a comparison must be made then let's find something a tad more accurate.


Before you deliver your next bromide, please spend a while improving your knowledge of Cornish and Germanic history before you dismiss any comparisons relating to genocide.
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Allister Posted: 26.05.2008, 20:34

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Quotecomparisons relating to genocide


What comparisons can be made between England's treatment of Cornwall and the Third Reich?




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FreakoMbiko Posted: 26.05.2008, 21:16

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QuoteWhat a ridiculous comment


How is it? It is the same - in my opinion.
The guy who said that was correct IMO.

QuoteWho is he?


He is a prolific writer of Cornish Nationalist material. He wrote "Our future is history" and "Breaking the chains". At least one of his books have been Outlawed (I wonder why).

TEL


Outlawed? By Who?

Which book is outlawed? Thats atrocious!




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FreakoMbiko Posted: 26.05.2008, 21:17

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AllisterCan you see why the Cross of St George can have similar connotations to some people as the swastika does to the jews?


Gosh! Thats such a terrible terrible thing to say.

Shame on you.

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moonshine Posted: 26.05.2008, 22:11

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It is the intent to "rid a filthy race" out of its homeland that is the fundamental basis of any genocide. The techniques are mere tools of fulfillment.

Ransacking our colleges was one technique. Paying Germans to slit 900 Cornish throats in ten minutes was another. Referring to promoting Cornish-ness in schools as "dangerous". Putting henchmen in our churches and forcing a new language and religion down our throats was another technique. Claiming Cornish Heritage as English. Double taxing us a "foreigners" then claiming we've been English all along was a financial technique. Asking for 10% of the population to sign a petition then throwing it in the bin. Building 70,000 homes for a mostly immigrant market is a dilution technique. Acknowledging every one of the 6300 minorities on the planet except for Cornwall is a cultural technique. Failing to teach Cornish children about their Celtic heritage is an educational practice.

All different expressions of the same intent.
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TeamKernow Posted: 26.05.2008, 22:43

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Tibet: 50 years.

Kernow: 500 years.

The same process - a little further down the diversion of imperialist oppression and cultural sublimation and assimilation.

A diversion that can,with collective willpower intelligence cohesion and fortitude, be re-routed and restored to its natural course.




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GrahamHart Posted: 26.05.2008, 22:44

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Agreed moonshine, and all of it Evil.


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Hunlef Posted: 27.05.2008, 00:30

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Quotecomparisons relating to genocide


What comparisons can be made between England's treatment of Cornwall and the Third Reich?


Need I say more after Moonshine's excellent contribution? You know so little, my friend.
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Allister Posted: 27.05.2008, 08:27

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QuoteNeed I say more after Moonshine's excellent contribution? You know so little, my friend.


What's with the personal remark at the end? Its unnecessary and rude. Can't we just discuss and debate and have different opinions, or is that not allowed?


QuoteAgreed moonshine, and all of it Evil.


Agreed. It is evil and imperialistic but it still barely compares to the Nazis.








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