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Email to Mark Prisk MP, Shadow Minister for Cornwall

IrishJack Posted: 21.07.2008, 14:54

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she sunk the Belgrano, more power to her,

Atleast the Tories have the sense to dance, which is more than you'd get from labour, and unlike the libdems the tories might get into power, and once they have power there is a chance that they could do something, especially if cornwall returns a few marginal tory MPs that they'd like to hold on too.

At the moment the best bet looks like independent/tory pact in One Cornwall in 2009 (fingers crossed that Whalley stays in charge talk sh1te 'til next year) and the Tories in westminster in 2010. In might be a bitter pill for the lefties and backwoodsmen here, but this is the best chance that cornwall has to get any recognition without external intervention or violence.





edited by: IrishJack, Jul 21, 2008 - 02:58 PM

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But I'm starting to think that it won't for us cornish, no unity, no leadership, but lots of factions and backbiting

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P_Trembath Posted: 21.07.2008, 15:42

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IrishJackshe sunk the Belgrano, more power to her,

Atleast the Tories have the sense to dance, which is more than you'd get from labour, and unlike the libdems the tories might get into power, and once they have power there is a chance that they could do something, especially if cornwall returns a few marginal tory MPs that they'd like to hold on too.

At the moment the best bet looks like independent/tory pact in One Cornwall in 2009 (fingers crossed that Whalley stays in charge talk sh1te 'til next year) and the Tories in westminster in 2010. In might be a bitter pill for the lefties and backwoodsmen here, but this is the best chance that cornwall has to get any recognition without external intervention or violence.



With the Tory record regarding "the Celtic fringe", especially Ireland, I am a bit sceptical of your assessment.



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Mike Posted: 21.07.2008, 16:00

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The Tories in Cornwall were shocking and is the reason why the LDs are so prominent now. The Tories are the party that is farthest removed from any form of devolution or assembly and it would be Westminster rules OK. The Tories are generally poorly received in the 'Celtic Fringe'.
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IrishJack Posted: 21.07.2008, 16:25

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The tories are poorly received on the celtic fringe, but this is more to do woith historic policy and action rather than current policy. After all Major was more important in the peace process in NI than Blair. the irish hate the tories because of their historical association with unionism and in the south with the landowning classes. Wales, S wales particularly, is the birth place of the labour party so no surprise that they aren't big tory fans.

My bad experience of the tories from the 70s, 80s and 90s is more that they were capitalistic and not mindful of communities and social issues, to put it mildly. They also have the grey brigade NT types which is particularly unhelpful in cornwall.

But we have a choice of 3 national parties (sorry MK not there yet), of which 2 have a chance of controlling power, Labour have no interest in cornwall and see it as a bit of tuscany in the SW region, a long way from their power base in the north and with seats that are virtually unwinnable for them. Also, nulab is completely centre control based.

The new cuddly tories are also centrist, but apparently less obsessed with centralised command and control structures, atleast they have a shadow minister for us, who can make vaguely appealing statements, and suggests that atleast someone in their national party in power in future at Westminister might have some interst in us, especially if we provide potentially defensible marginal seats.

The LDs are a waste of time, powerless in westminster, backstabbing liars at local level. independents or tories are our best bet, (independent votes being critical at times and even more powerful if parliament is anywhere near being hung)
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 21.07.2008, 19:05

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QuoteThe new cuddly tories are also centrist, but apparently less obsessed with centralised command and control structures, atleast they have a shadow minister for us, who can make vaguely appealing statements, and suggests that atleast someone in their national party in power in future at Westminister might have some interst in us, especially if we provide potentially defensible marginal seats.

The LDs are a waste of time, powerless in westminster, backstabbing liars at local level. independents or tories are our best bet, (independent votes being critical at times and even more powerful if parliament is anywhere near being hung)


I have to agree. I don't like the Tories but I hope they wipe the floor with the LieDumbs. Then at least MK would have a proper right wing party to lay into. Tory localism can't be any worse than Lie Dumb Unitary Authorities slotted into Nu Labour regions.

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