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TeamKernow Posted: 24.06.2008, 10:54

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Fundamental Flaws & Deficiencies in Conception:

1.No implied or explicit reference to this Toytown UA being merely a transitionary stepping stone to the future PROPER CORNISH ASSEMBLY.

2.No bilinguality.

3.No classic CORNISH 'iconic'(sic) content.

Would Whalley's dictatorial ass fit nicely on the sharp ends of that insipid and meaningless 'contemporary' Lib nonDem subliminal colour indoctrination flame logo-lite?

PS A lot of money could be saved by applying tippex on existing stationery to 'deliver' 'Cornwall Council'!




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PengellyITA Posted: 24.06.2008, 12:40



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I asked the council these questions:

1/ How much did the new logo cost?

2/ Who designed it (was it a Cornish company)?

3/ Onen hag Oll – One and All. Has this motto been dropped from Cornwall Council?

4/ I see that the word county has been dropped; does the council now consider Cornwall to be a region?

5/ The new logo looks a bit like the British Gas logo. Any comments?


The reply I got was:

Hi Nigel

1 and 2 As in my press release, the logo has been developed by the in house team here at county hall so has not cost anything.

3 There is still more work to do as we develop clear guidelines on how the logo will be used including decisions on straplines.

4. The name of the new council is Cornwall Council It will be a new council made up from the existing 7 councils. Cornwall is still a county.

5 I don’t know what the British gas logo is like but I think the new logo is fantastic – it brings together the traditional elements of the Cornish shield and tartan in a really dynamic way. We have had lots of really positive feedback already from our staff.


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Annie Moore
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One Cornwall Programme

New County Hall
Truro TR1 3AY

07770 538 448
amoore1@cornwall.gov.uk

www.onecornwall.cornwall.gov.uk <http://www.onecornwall.cornwall.gov.uk>


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TeamKernow Posted: 24.06.2008, 12:56

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Nigel.

How about running a parallel but heavyweight and serious logo design event at 'Cornish World'/C24 and having a 'Vote!' at C24 when the submissions date has been reached.

PS Perhaps you could write back to your correspondent and request historical backup for the point of view that 'Cornwall is still a county'.
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P_Trembath Posted: 24.06.2008, 13:12

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PengellyITA
ONECORNWALL........it brings together the traditional elements of the Cornish shield.......



????

Elements of the Shield, It's got a pointy bit at the bottom, and......well,........it's got a pointy bit at the bottom. Yes, I can see how that is a traditional element of a shield.

PengellyITA
ONECORNWALL 1 and 2 As in my press release, the logo has been developed by the in house team here at county hall so has not cost anything.


Ah, so the "in house team" work for free then.

Or, "the in house team" did this work as unpaid overtime, whilst chipping in some money to cover electric and other materials used then.

Or, do they really mean that we've paid for it from our council tax.


PengellyITA
ONECORNWALL.......We have had lots of really positive feedback already from our staff.


Any negative feedback?

Is this the same staff that are so loyal that they work for free, or possibly the ones who might be concerned for their jobs in the future, and do not want to rock the boat.


Personally, I think that it is on a par with the famed London Olympic logo, a childish splodge designed by someone who has taken far too much recreational drugs. Whats worse, despite their claim to the contrary, we paid for it.



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TheElvenLord Posted: 24.06.2008, 13:30

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QuoteCornwall is still a county


Show us some evidence then.

Can I ask - Is anyone in the "county" council voted for?

I put the same arguement as always, and would be grateful for it to be forwarded to this man.


From Oxford dictionary:

Quoteoriginally denoting a periodical meeting held to transact the business of a shire: from Old French conte, from Latin comitatus ‘domain of a count’.


"Domain of a count"

Have you ever heard of a Count of Cornwall? I have not. Is he some secret, shy figure? I know we have the DUKE of Cornwall.

Oh no, but look at this, aain from Oxford

Quoteduchy
/duchi/

• noun (pl. duchies) the territory of a duke or duchess.

— ORIGIN Old French duche, from Latin dux ‘leader’.



The territory of a DUKE. Well, doesnt that blow your claim out of the water.
So, lets have a look at this.

A county is territory of a count or countess
A duchy is a territory of a duke or duchess

Cornwall is territory of a duke, therefore surely, corresponding to the above statements, published by one of the leading English dictionaries, it should be a Duchy.

Sorry to destroy your frankly mis-informed claims of the constitutional status of Cornwall.

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PS - Are they going to do a 1984 (Orwell) and start changing dictionaries lol

Everything is impossible until it is not.
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fancyabrew Posted: 24.06.2008, 14:54



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this has just been posted, quite funny

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/7470564.stm
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Fulub-le-Breton Posted: 24.06.2008, 17:23

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The link: http://news.bbc.../7470564.stm

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JonFlower Posted: 24.06.2008, 18:18



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The BBC are inviting people to submit their own logos.

"Could you design a logo for Cornwall Council?
Send your designs for a logo to: yourpics@bbc.co.uk and we'll display a few of the best."

I wonder if any offensive stereotype ones will be submitted and shown? who knows.



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fancyabrew Posted: 24.06.2008, 20:10



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how about a burning holiday home icon_wink
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angofbew Posted: 24.06.2008, 21:14

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Just a question? isnt anything brought out now meant to have a Cornish translation under the Language agreements?? If so, where is it?
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kevrenor Posted: 25.06.2008, 03:41

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fancyabrewhow about a burning holiday home icon_wink


lol

I thought the new logo represented the hopes of the Cornish people going up in smoke and flames anyway!

I'll stick with the coat of arms and motto!

So they have decided 'Cornwall Council', at least they dropped County! Translates to Consel Kernewek? (sorry, only a unified 1st grade student)

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P_Trembath Posted: 25.06.2008, 10:35

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The one they show for approval:-
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/P_Trembath/LogoDraft.jpg

The one they plan on using:-
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/P_Trembath/NewLogo.jpg

Perhaps this is nearer the truth:-
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn143/P_Trembath/OneCornwall.jpg



Kernow Kensa!


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TeamKernow Posted: 25.06.2008, 22:53

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http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifBest Use Of An Incinerator - 2008http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif

http://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gifSome Earlier Related Discussionhttp://andymanchesta.com/ICONS/1%20(67).gif



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r Posted: 26.06.2008, 14:17



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www.thisiscornwall.co.uk

lots of comments about the logo here....
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T-2 Posted: 27.06.2008, 20:16



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the reason it is Cornwall counsil and not county counsil is it is a DISTRECT council of the south west reagion and is defined as such in the bill which set it up. This it NOTany consesion to an assembly just the opposite. Ever felt you've been had?.
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