Gunwalloe - Church Cove
View across Church Cove in Gunwalloe at the base of the Lizard Peninsula.
The church is St Winwalloe with it's distinctively seperate bell tower and surrounding Tamarisk hedge....
newlyn house
Wonderfully painted frontage....
rogers tower
A folly built 18th C, for Mr Rogers, a local landowner....
Actually IloveHelston, I have been looking back at this thread and realised something.
My replies to your posts have become more and more intemperate, patronising and verging on the abusive. Yours on the other hand have been nothing but civil.
They may have been irritating, naive and infuriatingly simplistic, but civil nonetheless. Therefore I offer you my unreserved apology.
That being said, I would simply ask that you try and think about the issue a bit more and pay more attention to what has been said previously, you will find that all your simple questions have been answered multiple times and with many examples.
The problem here is that Georgia may well have had to suffer the ignominy of having the troops of its old imperial, and later soviet masters on its soil, but there was a reason for that.
They had fought two unsuccessful civil wars in 1990 in the two territories of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. The UN agreed to Russian troops acting there as peacekeepers. Some may say that was a case of letting the wolf look after the sheep. Whatever your feelings on that issue, an uneasy peace was largely kept for a decade and a half with this arrangement.
Then along comes Saakashvili who comes to power after a coup and a subsequent election, on a nationalist ticket saying he is going to create a single Georgia incorporating the territories of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Ajaria. These territories were autonomous from Georgia for centuries under first the Russian Empire and then the Soviet Union. Ajaria was relatively to put down easy and has now been incorporated.
The other two were a different matter.
Read the "Der Spiegel" article I linked to for a timeline of the problems.
The problem we have today started in earnest during the night of the 7th when Georgian troops started an artillery barrage on the city of Tskhinval while its residents were in bed. This would ensure maximum civilian casualties. They also shelled the peacekeepers base killing 20 Russian soldiers.
The action may have been a desperate or stupid miscalculation on Saakashvili's part, or maybe it was a cynical ploy by his American backers. We will not know the answer to that, but we can certainly speculate as America manifestly gains the most from this in the short term. Either way it resulted in a large part of the Gerogian military being destroyed.
There could only ever have been one response to the Georgian military action whilst Georgia was not a NATO member.
So why did Saakashvili throw it all away on the 7th August. If he had waited patiently another year or so he might have got his way, if the Americans could have convinced the French, Germans and Italians that Georgia was a good nation to have in the club. As it is, his actions resulted in his military getting a severe battering, his country split even more firmly and the Russians encamped in Abkhazia and South Ossetia in even bigger numbers than before with his soldiers removed from those territories and his military under threat of extinction. His hoped for NATO membership is also much further off than if he had done nothing, because now NATO would have to face off a Russian "occupation" if they were to accept Gerogia. Possibly the most dangerous situation to put itself in since the Cuban Missile crisis.
Technically Russia did not invade. It had peacekeping troops on the ground in Georgia. These were attacked and killed by Georgian forces. The Russians then responded to the Georgian aggressive acts. Russian troops have now pulled back to their previous positions. Technically there is no invasion.
You point about invasion is far too general.
NATO invaded Serbia and unilaterally declared Kosovo independent. They did not previously have troops stationed there.
NATO invaded Afghanistan. They did not previously have troops established there.
America and Britain invaded Iraq. There are no excuses for that one.
Israel invaded Lebanon.
You have also not attempted to answer any of the questions I put, merely retreated to making trite generalisations.
NO, both Russia and Iran are democratic. Their governmants are elected by by a popular, open vote by the population. Their elections are scrutinised by external observers.
That has already been answered many times. Please reread the posts above. Have you read the posts?
I have already answered the first of yours many times. Please reread the posts particularly those pertaining to the Georgian Civil war in 1990-91 and the aftermath of that.
Russia is democratic because it elects its MP's. Russia is a bougeois liberal democracy along the same lines as any of the other main European nations. Their democracy and economic system are the same as that in the France of Germany. I think you are mistaking Russia for the Soviet Union.
Iran is democratic for the same reason. Iran has the complication that it is a theocracy and they can intervene, but on whole the government of Iran is there with popular support and elected by the populace. therefore the Government is democratic.
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