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ilovehelston Posted: 29.09.2008, 13:21



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It supported an illegal decleration of independance!
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P_Trembath Posted: 29.09.2008, 19:43

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I asked, :-
P_TrembathHow has Russia "declared" UDI in Ossetia and Abkhazia?


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ilovehelstonIt supported an illegal decleration of independance!


Please tell me how supporting an "illegal decleration of independance", is the same as declaring UDI?

Please define an "illegal decleration of independance", and explain the difference between such, and a legal declaration of independence?



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Kéighlán Posted: 29.09.2008, 21:01

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And Labour supported the declaration of independence of Kosovo from Serbia, whereas Kosovo has always been Serbian land.

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ilovehelston Posted: 29.09.2008, 23:02



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P_TrembathI asked, :-
P_TrembathHow has Russia "declared" UDI in Ossetia and Abkhazia?


Your reply:-
ilovehelstonIt supported an illegal decleration of independance!


Please tell me how supporting an "illegal decleration of independance", is the same as declaring UDI?

Please define an "illegal decleration of independance", and explain the difference between such, and a legal declaration of independence?



it is an illegal decleration of independance as Georgia is sovereign. Georgia is united and Georgia is freee. South Ossetia and Abkhazia are russian vassal states
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ilovehelston Posted: 29.09.2008, 23:03



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KéighlánAnd Labour supported the declaration of independence of Kosovo from Serbia, whereas Kosovo has always been Serbian land.



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P_Trembath Posted: 29.09.2008, 23:26

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P_TrembathI asked, :-
P_TrembathHow has Russia "declared" UDI in Ossetia and Abkhazia?


Your reply:-
ilovehelstonIt supported an illegal decleration of independance!


Please tell me how supporting an "illegal decleration of independance", is the same as declaring UDI?

Please define an "illegal decleration of independance", and explain the difference between such, and a legal declaration of independence?



it is an illegal decleration of independance as Georgia is sovereign. Georgia is united and Georgia is freee. South Ossetia and Abkhazia are russian vassal states


Now, please tell me how supporting an "illegal decleration of independance", is the same as declaring UDI?



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P_Trembath Posted: 29.09.2008, 23:42

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ilovehelstonit is an illegal decleration of independance as Georgia is sovereign. Georgia is united and Georgia is freee. South Ossetia and Abkhazia are russian vassal states


You say, Gorgia is sovereign, Georgia is united, Georgia is free,and then go on to state that Ossetia and Abkhazia are Russian vassal states.

But, are Ossetia and Abkhazia part of this sovereign, free, united Georgia, in which case, how can they be vassal states of Russia, and how can Georgia be "united" if parts of it have declared UDI, and as Georgia is "Free", should not people be free to decide not to be part of it?

Or, if they are vassal states of Russia, 1/ what has Georgia got to do with whether they wish to declare UDI, presumably from Russia as according to you they are "Russian vassal states", and 2/ as Russia supported this declaration of UDI by 2 of their vassal states, how can it possibly be "illegal"?



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ilovehelston Posted: 30.09.2008, 09:14



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ilovehelstonit is an illegal decleration of independance as Georgia is sovereign. Georgia is united and Georgia is freee. South Ossetia and Abkhazia are russian vassal states


You say, Gorgia is sovereign, Georgia is united, Georgia is free,and then go on to state that Ossetia and Abkhazia are Russian vassal states.

But, are Ossetia and Abkhazia part of this sovereign, free, united Georgia, in which case, how can they be vassal states of Russia, and how can Georgia be "united" if parts of it have declared UDI, and as Georgia is "Free", should not people be free to decide not to be part of it?

Or, if they are vassal states of Russia, 1/ what has Georgia got to do with whether they wish to declare UDI, presumably from Russia as according to you they are "Russian vassal states", and 2/ as Russia supported this declaration of UDI by 2 of their vassal states, how can it possibly be "illegal"?


South Ossetia and Abkhazia are illegal states which have been occupied by Russia. And it is illegal because Russia invaded Georgia! and Russia is an autocratic state!
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Taran Posted: 30.09.2008, 10:38

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You are displaying nothing more than simple russophobia. Russia is a democratic country. Your mindset is locked into the 1980's. Russia has been a bourgeois democracy since 1989.

What is the difference between the recognition of Kosovo and the recognition of SO and Abkhazia, other than your dislike of Russia?
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ilovehelston Posted: 30.09.2008, 14:01



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TaranYou are displaying nothing more than simple russophobia. Russia is a democratic country. Your mindset is locked into the 1980's. Russia has been a bourgeois democracy since 1989.

What is the difference between the recognition of Kosovo and the recognition of SO and Abkhazia, other than your dislike of Russia?


I am not displaying Russiophobia. Russia is not a democracy, it is an autocratic state. Neither communist nor democratic. but nationalistic.

Kosovo is not an independant state
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Griffin Posted: 30.09.2008, 14:28



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QuoteSouth Ossetia and Abkhazia are illegal states which have been occupied by Russia. And it is illegal because Russia invaded Georgia! and Russia is an autocratic state!


you're sort of forgetting the fact that it was actually the georgian government who first offered the threat of violence...

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cornishrebel2 Posted: 30.09.2008, 16:43

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We have already told him/her/it that already but no joy we are just going round in circles with this brain dead muppet icon_rolleyes you would get more sence outa talking to a brick wall than you would to ilh

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Taran Posted: 30.09.2008, 17:13

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ILHRussia is not a democracy, it is an autocratic state. Neither communist nor democratic. but nationalistic.


Doh.... What do you call a government that is chosen by a poll of its population? In a manner identical to say, France or Germany. Do some research and stop flaunting your ignorance.

ILH nationalistic


America falls nicely into that final category.

And actually Griffin, Georgia did not simply threaten violence, it opened fire on a city with artillery and rocket launchers in the middle of the night whilst most people were upstairs in bed, a tactic designed to maximise casualties. The weapons are also indiscriminate and unguided and not targeted at specific military targets.

And I couldn't agree more cornishrebel2!



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P_Trembath Posted: 30.09.2008, 17:51

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ilovehelston, I will ask again, in the vain hope that you might provide an answer.

Please tell me how supporting an "illegal decleration of independance", is the same as declaring UDI?




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ilovehelston Posted: 30.09.2008, 22:22



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QuoteSouth Ossetia and Abkhazia are illegal states which have been occupied by Russia. And it is illegal because Russia invaded Georgia! and Russia is an autocratic state!


you're sort of forgetting the fact that it was actually the georgian government who first offered the threat of violence...

Really, when?
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