Indeed, poor choice of wording on my part but I was tired. I certainly meant to imply that they started this conflict.
Are you kidding me ILH? I was engaged to an American once, very nearly ended up living there, but through him, I met a lot of his American friends, who are all taught from a young age that their country is the best in the world, and they believe this religiously, which is a common trait among almost all the Americans I have ever met bar a very few worldly individuals. My ex-fiance's mother said that it was god's country, and I thought, 'hello? if I were religious, it'd be god's world'.
I can't compare America to the UK, but I certainly can compare it to Australia, and I'm proud to say that nowhere in my schooling do I ever recall being introduced to such concepts as 'my country is best', or 'my country right or wrong'.
I haven't lived anywhere else long enough to say that my country is better than somewhere, so what right do I have to think it superior?
What about the fact that american troops are now on Iraq's sovereign soil? or Afghanistan for that matter. America are threatening Iran.
America invaded Grinada under the pretense of protecting American medical students to remove the threat of communism. Do you think they acted correctly? If so, then surely you must support Russia who were protecting their own, as they said?
Now, I don't necessarily support the actions of either side. I think Russia went overboard in some respects and I certainly think Georgia were in the wrong, but, I can, unlike you, see both sides of the coin.
Oh and I see Taran made something akin to my point above but I really couldn't be bothered editing my post...oh well.
I was being ironic
I must admit that this kind of impenetrable immunity to reason or reality is quite astounding! I'm still in two minds as to whether it is real stupidity and naivety or whether it is just trolling.
Oh stupid people are definitely out there. Where else would we have gott 2 terms of Bush, the war on terror and a number of other really stupid ventures that countries of the world have been willing to put their name to?
Still, I'm pretty astounded when I meet them to...
What are you getting at? What point are you trying to make?
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I fail to see how the USA is nationalistic. Do tell me how
USA is not in Iraq and Afghanistan alone, it is there as part of a UN mandate mission and is in those countries because democratically elected governmentens wanted them to be,
Russia is not however in South Ossetia and Abkazia alone, but rather it is in a buffer zone and has not allowed EU monitors access.
The legal status of ~Kosovo is unclear.
The difference between Kosovo and South Ossetia is that South Ossetia and Abkhazia are russian vassal states, Georgia wishes to be a productive member of both the eu and NATO. Russia is opposed to this and has threatened violent retaliation at the thought of states joining a mutual defence organisation.
Russia started the conflict. Russia is opposed to democratically elected states making their own decisions.
That is people's opinoins about the USA. The USA is not a self concsicouly nationalistic country in the mould of Russia. People in USA are free, unlike in Iran or Russia.
And at least Americans did not have a referendum on whether certain people should be citizense, unlike, say Australia!
If you will study the US Grenada conflict, you will see that other carribeean states invaded Grenada too. Were they in the wrong?
How was Georgia in the wrong? It is trying to defend its sovergen territory
Ffs its clear that you don't take anything that has been posted on here.
Russia neva started this Georgia started this by attacking South Ossetia in the middle of the night killing innocent ppl. What is so hard to understand about that?
Georgia will neva be part of NATO as it does not want them in NATO and if they where in NATO and they did what they did and Russia did what did by defending its self and South Ossetia yes NATO would have to step in and defend Georgia but NATO does not want it as to attack Russia could mean the start of WWWIII which could be a long and deadly war which I cant see any side wining
You complain because ppl on here give you personal abuse is any wonder you don't take anything in that has been put to you all you do is troll all the time think before you post
What does it mean to be English?
Being English is about driving in a German car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer then travelling home grabbing an Indian curry or a Chinese on the way to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American soap shows on a Japane
I know, I visibly cringe when I see stupid people like that...
Errr, you do know that the UN actually was against the invasion of Iraq don't you?
or did that little point just slip your mind?
Still, that's about the most literate post I've seen you make ILH, so I'll give you a bit of credit for that, even if it was full of wrong points.
How is that different from Grinada or Cuba for that matter? where the United states directly tried to impose their will on countries who actually wanted to be communist?
To an extent the people of the US are free, one only need take a look at their sham of a democratic electoral system to see that.
Now that's a bit below the belt isn't it ILH? I still maintain that Australia, unlike the US has actually tried a lot harder to bring equality to the country. And the positive thing about that referendum is that a majority actually voted yes. Whitlam was one of the best PMs this country has ever seen, were it not for him we'd probably still be behind the times. Australia by no means was the only country oppressing people at the time, and if you ask the average Australian now, you won't find a hint of racism in them. The majority of us have learnt.
I did study the Grenada conflict, I studied the entire Cold War as a matter of fact for my finals in Modern history studies in conflict in piecetime unit, and my point about Grenada is is that you're making out the Americans to be in the right here and claming that they are in fact better than the russians, when in fact, they did invade Grenada under false pretenses to remove what they saw as a threat to their way of life, totally disregarding the opinions of the people that actually lived there.
Grenada is a good example because the Americans clamed to be protecting their own, but they used this as a cover story to take out a supposed communist threat. The Americans tried to invade Cuba by supporting the Bay of Pigs invasion, which funnily enough failed, and there's yet another example of a country sticking its nose in where it's not wanted.
There's defend and there's recklessly killing civilians, do you know the difference?
I don't think you can tell the difference between personal abuse and stating the obvious...
Again, stating the bleeding obvious.... It's not abuse if it's true.
Georgia could be stated (note the crucial word COULD) to be ensuring that South Ossetia and Abkazia, which are recognised by the UN as Georgian territory, are bought back into Georgian territory. Russia is occupying Georgian territory outside both South Ossetia and Abkhazia. That is fact.
Actually, Georgia voted in a referndum to be in NATO. and many nato member states want Georgia in the organisation
What about Russian provocation and threats of states wishing to join NATO?
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